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WhoreMods -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 8:23:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods So as you're tarbrushing the antifa and BLM as groups entirely composed of violent terrorist thugs, can we assume that these wankers in Virginia speak for the whole of the right? Or are you making generalisations selectively again? Interesting that you post this Now turn it around, and include the media arm of the Democrat party vs. white people who just like their historic statues and resent Black Lies Madder and antifa radicals, and the Democrat Party who funds and trains them You can prove that the democrats are running BLM and the antifa then, can you?

tweakabelle -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 8:27:31 AM)
Bosco you seem to be trying everything you can think of to wriggle out of condemning the vicious racists and self declared fascists who were responsible for the terrorist incident in Charlottesville and the incitement to hate that preceded and accompanied it. Why is it so difficult, apparently impossible for you to say directly: 'There is no place for white supremacists, neo-Nazis and fascists in the USA I live in' ...? This is not a controversial statement. Just about everyone with a functioning brain would agree with it. US politicians across the entire spectrum have voiced these sentiments publicly, up to and including the A-G Sessions. It doesn't imply anything about sensible Right wing politics that eschew the politics of hate. Surely you can see the need to condemn the terrorist attack and want to distance yourself from the people responsible ...? The more you weasel out of saying this, the more people will conclude that you actually sympathise or agree with these thugs.

Nnanji -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 8:27:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail how do you arrive at that bit of asswipe? The left needs to make up their mind. Do we single out all terrorism by race and religion or affiliated political groups OR do we not? IF they can't say the word, "Islamic Terrorism" then why must Trump say more specific words towards White Supremacy? They aren't being consistent. So which moslem terrorists were given a free pass to continue terrorist activities and attacks on protestors in the 'States, Greta? I'd be grateful if you could point at the news stories about that, as I seem to have missed them. For instance, the one that shot up the gay nightclub in Florida, CAIR which is the mouthpiece amount others. Along with every future one that is now being imported under Obama/leftist policies. Most of those that have killed a bunch of people, as well as raped or molested people in Europe. Don't be an ass.

mnottertail -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 8:29:55 AM)
so thats why there is nutsucker terrorism.

Nnanji -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 8:30:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic What a pathetic sniveling ugly racist little man the president is, As are his supporters I can't tell if your projecting or fantasizing to get wet.

BoscoX -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 8:31:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods So as you're tarbrushing the antifa and BLM as groups entirely composed of violent terrorist thugs, can we assume that these wankers in Virginia speak for the whole of the right? Or are you making generalisations selectively again? Interesting that you post this Now turn it around, and include the media arm of the Democrat party vs. white people who just like their historic statues and resent Black Lies Madder and antifa radicals, and the Democrat Party who funds and trains them You can prove that the democrats are running BLM and the antifa then, can you? Do your own research if you are that ignorant, howler boy They're not Republican groups, and George Soros (a Democrat Party "man behind the curtain") absolutely funds both radical hate groups, and many others Hillary, Obama, Sanders all kiss their asses and make lovey-lovey while everyone is looking. Have been doing that for a long time, definitely interconnected Do your own research though, I don't cater to little retards like you

WhoreMods -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 8:32:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail how do you arrive at that bit of asswipe? The left needs to make up their mind. Do we single out all terrorism by race and religion or affiliated political groups OR do we not? IF they can't say the word, "Islamic Terrorism" then why must Trump say more specific words towards White Supremacy? They aren't being consistent. So which moslem terrorists were given a free pass to continue terrorist activities and attacks on protestors in the 'States, Greta? I'd be grateful if you could point at the news stories about that, as I seem to have missed them. For instance, the one that shot up the gay nightclub in Florida, CAIR which is the mouthpiece amount others. Along with every future one that is now being imported under Obama/leftist policies... Have to stop you there: Obama hasn't been the president since January. I'm surprised you didn't notice as there's been a bit of media attention on the new guy.

BoscoX -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 8:39:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle Bosco you seem to be trying everything you can think of to wriggle out of condemning the vicious racists and self declared fascists who were responsible for the terrorist incident in Charlottesville and the incitement to hate that preceded and accompanied it. Why is it so difficult, apparently impossible for you to say directly: 'There is no place for white supremacists, neo-Nazis and fascists in the USA I live in' ...? This is not a controversial statement. Just about everyone with a functioning brain would agree with it. US politicians across the entire spectrum have voiced these sentiments publicly, up to and including the A-G Sessions. It doesn't imply anything about sensible Right wing politics that eschew the politics of hate. Surely you can see the need to condemn the terrorist attack and want to distance yourself from the people responsible ...? The more you weasel out of saying this, the more people will conclude that you actually sympathise or agree with these thugs. The media wing of the Democrat party is never accurate I am far from convinced that there were many racists in VA. People can resist radical Democrats without being racist. That being said, racists of every color have a right to their opinion and to speak their opinion in the USA. No one has "the right" to physically assault them for it, as these Democrat hate groups typically want to do. Really looks like it was Democrat groups who lit the violence up Those who are racist, and I am sure some are racists, of course I do not condone that pov. Problem with your howling though, is that racists come in every color There were surely racist blacks there who wanted to fuck up some white people, I demand you condemn them... (You are an idiot)

WhoreMods -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 8:42:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods So as you're tarbrushing the antifa and BLM as groups entirely composed of violent terrorist thugs, can we assume that these wankers in Virginia speak for the whole of the right? Or are you making generalisations selectively again? Interesting that you post this Now turn it around, and include the media arm of the Democrat party vs. white people who just like their historic statues and resent Black Lies Madder and antifa radicals, and the Democrat Party who funds and trains them You can prove that the democrats are running BLM and the antifa then, can you? Do your own research if you are that ignorant, howler boy They're not Republican groups, and George Soros (a Democrat Party "man behind the curtain") absolutely funds both radical hate groups, and many others Hillary, Obama, Sanders all kiss their asses and make lovey-lovey while everyone is looking. Have been doing that for a long time, definitely interconnected Do your own research though, I don't cater to little retards like you That's a "No", then. Thought so.

tweakabelle -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 8:53:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle Bosco you seem to be trying everything you can think of to wriggle out of condemning the vicious racists and self declared fascists who were responsible for the terrorist incident in Charlottesville and the incitement to hate that preceded and accompanied it. Why is it so difficult, apparently impossible for you to say directly: 'There is no place for white supremacists, neo-Nazis and fascists in the USA I live in' ...? This is not a controversial statement. Just about everyone with a functioning brain would agree with it. US politicians across the entire spectrum have voiced these sentiments publicly, up to and including the A-G Sessions. It doesn't imply anything about sensible Right wing politics that eschew the politics of hate. Surely you can see the need to condemn the terrorist attack and want to distance yourself from the people responsible ...? The more you weasel out of saying this, the more people will conclude that you actually sympathise or agree with these thugs. The media wing of the Democrat party is never accurate I am far from convinced that there were many racists in VA. People can resist radical Democrats without being racist. That being said, racists of every color have a right to their opinion and to speak their opinion in the USA. No one has "the right" to physically assault them for it, as these Democrat hate groups typically want to do. Really looks like it was Democrat groups who lit the violence up Those who are racist, and I am sure some are racists, of course I do not condone that pov. Problem with your howling though, is that racists come in every color There were surely racist blacks there who wanted to fuck up some white people, I demand you condemn them... (You are an idiot) Another attempt at weaseling out of condemning an act of terrorism carried out on US soil resulting in the death of a US citizen. In fact your post came far closer to defending the racists the neo-nazis and the fascists responsible for that terrorist act and the outpouring of hate that preceded encouraged and accompanied it than condemning it. I wish I could say that I am surprised your attitude to terrorism is so ambivalent and partisan that you refuse to condemn an act of terrorism precisely because it was carried out by someone on your side of politics, but I am not surprised at all. Your abuse, blame shifting and evasions only strengthen the suspicion that you do sympathise with these thugs and their politics of hate but are too cowardly to state it openly as you know what the reaction to that would be ...

thompsonx -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 8:55:55 AM)
ORIGINAL: MasterBrentC It amazes me when liberals don't even know history. You are a prime example. Pretty sure the history books will indicate that the kkk was started by Nathan Bedford forest The KKK was started by democrats from the south and was the strong arm of the Democrat party. Pretty sure the history books will indicate that the kkk was started by nathan bedford forest a four star general in the confederate army. Do some research. Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

Nnanji -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 9:09:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle Many people are saying that yesterday's appalling incident was a spur of the moment thing, a rash act. Most people are now describing it as a terrorist act and a hate crime. But these two statements don't sit easily together, even if the murder turns out to be an unplanned sudden outpouring of rage. The hate that motivated this killer wasn't born an instant before he decided to drive his car into a group of anti-fascist and anti-racist Americans. It wasn't a natural act. The hate that motivated him was a long time festering and churning inside him, nurtured by the ugly politics of the far Right, white supremacy and groups like the KKK. 'White nationalist' politics, seen as fringe only a year or two ago, have slowly been infiltrating the mainstream of US politics, fuelled by platforms such as Breitbart and individuals such as Trump and Bannon, who have given a certain respectability to it. In this context, Trump's refusal to explicitly condemn the far Right thugs is especially significant. Is the US at a crossroads? Is it time for those mainstream politicians, who like Trump have been flirting with the far Right, stirring racial tensions and marginalising minorities, to decide (or be forced to decide) between their sympathy for the politics of far Right thuggery and conventional politics? To what extent has the dalliance between the forces of hate and the politicians who have harnessed these ugly forces to gain office laid the ground for terrorist acts such as we have just witnessed? What should happen if Trump refuses to distance himself and the office he occupies from these thugs? Is it time for the US to declare itself a zero tolerance zone for far Right thuggery and hate? Why don't you provide a "reliable" link to where a main stream politician have been flirting with the far right and stirring racial tension. Provide actual actions or verbiage of those politicians, not projections from leftist useful idiots.

Nnanji -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 9:17:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery - antifa is a reaction to the neo-Nazis. You have the cart pulling the horse. - BLM is hardly terrorist. - there is no hate america first group. There ARE people who are full of shit, however. Antifa has been around since the 1920's, yes they fought fascists in Europe. Now they are Sorros funded goons, at least in the U.S., that have determined if you don't think like them then you are a target. Theyve been around a lot longer than that horse. You're full of shit. BLM has inspired terrorists and have not distanced themselves from that terrorism. So you're full of shit again. If you don't know/understand a large part of the left is hate America first then you are as ignorant as you are full of shit.

mnottertail -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 9:18:18 AM)
http://www.alternet.org/right-wing/rightwing-billionaires-are-intentionally-funding-hate-speech-college-campuses and thats clearly a basis in the philosophy of nutsuckers, since they are kochsuckers.

Nnanji -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 9:29:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle Is the US at a crossroads? Is it time for those mainstream politicians, who like Trump have been flirting with the far Right, stirring racial tensions and marginalising minorities, to decide (or be forced to decide) between their sympathy for the politics of far Right thuggery and conventional politics? To what extent has the dalliance between the forces of hate and the politicians who have harnessed these ugly forces to gain office laid the ground for terrorist acts such as we have just witnessed? What should happen if Trump refuses to distance himself and the office he occupies from these thugs? Is it time for the US to declare itself a zero tolerance zone for far Right thuggery and hate? El presidente is incapable of doing so, or even being able to adopt a consistent stance on the lunatic fringe of the right as they were a big element in his election, but he doesn't want the more mainstream elements of the Republican party to regard him as part of that movement. So he does the mealy mouth, he evades and ties himself into knots to weasel out of condemning the deplorables (which might trigger a nasty backlash from shitehawks who thought he was speaking for them with some o the drivel he spouted while campaigning), or excusing and trying to co-opt them (which will trigger a backlash from the rest of his 26%). You could almost feel sorry for the shitgibbon over the dilemma he's got himself into over this if it wasn't self-inflicted. Tell you what When the Democrat politicians stand up to the violent communists, antifa and Black Lies Madder terrorists and Hate America First! groups, etc, we might stop laughing at you and your your mad howling about those awful white people who don't know their place Tell you what What about answering some of the questions I asked instead of trying to change the topic? I for one will be very interested to hear your thoughts on the toxic relationship between Trump, Bannon and Breitbart and the terrorist incident in Charlottesville. Surely you would agree that Trump is bringing the high office he holds into disrepute by flirting with far and looney Right racists and fascists ... wouldn't you ...? Show me the connection between trump and charlottville. Show it by something he said, not by what you're racist buddies project. I've watched trump deny any desire to be connected with the alt-right several times. Show me where you see a connection that's not a leftist cartoon fantasy. Then show me where Bernie has told Antifa to stop what they're doing. Show me where any main stream leftist has denied Antifa, as trump did white nationalist. You're so full of shit. You make up stuff and then expect people to answer for it. When they rightly consider you an idiot you accept that as proof of your fantasies. You know, if you are an example of the Austrailian education system, it should really feel shame.

Nnanji -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 9:31:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery [image]https://i.imgur.com/hSTUgut.png[/image] Ya, just like all of the white and Hispanic cops at black riots. I wonder why you have to make it a race issue.

Nnanji -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 9:32:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery The White Supremacists don't seem to understand that point. David Duke specifically claims "we elected him." You don't seem very clear on quite a few points. And you accept everything David Duke says as gospel. Which makes you a racist ass.

tweakabelle -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 9:44:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle Many people are saying that yesterday's appalling incident was a spur of the moment thing, a rash act. Most people are now describing it as a terrorist act and a hate crime. But these two statements don't sit easily together, even if the murder turns out to be an unplanned sudden outpouring of rage. The hate that motivated this killer wasn't born an instant before he decided to drive his car into a group of anti-fascist and anti-racist Americans. It wasn't a natural act. The hate that motivated him was a long time festering and churning inside him, nurtured by the ugly politics of the far Right, white supremacy and groups like the KKK. 'White nationalist' politics, seen as fringe only a year or two ago, have slowly been infiltrating the mainstream of US politics, fuelled by platforms such as Breitbart and individuals such as Trump and Bannon, who have given a certain respectability to it. In this context, Trump's refusal to explicitly condemn the far Right thugs is especially significant. Is the US at a crossroads? Is it time for those mainstream politicians, who like Trump have been flirting with the far Right, stirring racial tensions and marginalising minorities, to decide (or be forced to decide) between their sympathy for the politics of far Right thuggery and conventional politics? To what extent has the dalliance between the forces of hate and the politicians who have harnessed these ugly forces to gain office laid the ground for terrorist acts such as we have just witnessed? What should happen if Trump refuses to distance himself and the office he occupies from these thugs? Is it time for the US to declare itself a zero tolerance zone for far Right thuggery and hate? Why don't you provide a "reliable" link to where a main stream politician have been flirting with the far right and stirring racial tension. Provide actual actions or verbiage of those politicians, not projections from leftist useful idiots. Trump's 'Chief Strategist' Steve Bannon, ex-boss of Breitbart the self declared platform of the alt-Right movement is one such link. Indeed employing one of the far Right's leading spokespeople as your 'Chief Strategist' ought to tell you all you need to know about Trump's courting of the far Right and the depth of his ongoing connection with the politics of hate. Just in case that wasn't enough, Trump's own re-tweeting of tweets by racists during the election is another well known public sign of his flirtation with the ugly politics of hate. I note that for all the belligerence of your posts on this thread, any distancing of your self from, or condemnation of the terrorist act yesterday is absent. Perhaps you might like to rectify this, and unlike your bosom buddy Bosco who refuses to, condemn an act of terrorism carried out on US soil killing a US citizen ...

Nnanji -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 9:45:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle Bosco you seem to be trying everything you can think of to wriggle out of condemning the vicious racists and self declared fascists who were responsible for the terrorist incident in Charlottesville and the incitement to hate that preceded and accompanied it. Why is it so difficult, apparently impossible for you to say directly: 'There is no place for white supremacists, neo-Nazis and fascists in the USA I live in' ...? This is not a controversial statement. Just about everyone with a functioning brain would agree with it. US politicians across the entire spectrum have voiced these sentiments publicly, up to and including the A-G Sessions. It doesn't imply anything about sensible Right wing politics that eschew the politics of hate. Surely you can see the need to condemn the terrorist attack and want to distance yourself from the people responsible ...? The more you weasel out of saying this, the more people will conclude that you actually sympathise or agree with these thugs. There is a place in the U.S. For everyone. Including idiots like you. Every one of those people has the same right to peacefully assemble and protest. We aren't judgmental like little idiots such as yourself. If we were, you'd be one of the first to be sent to reeducation. Each of those people, and I include people such as Antifa and BLM with the white nationalist, has the right to select who they wish to represent them in our government. However, I expect that the government will not heed their hateful messages. I know, because I've personally heard, Trump disavow the alt-right. I haven't heard anyone on the left disavow the alt-left. In fact I've seen the left court BLM and I know that the leftist politicians accept money from the same people that fund Antifa and BLM. I've heard many leftist say there is no such thing as alt-left, which tells me they accept the hate as long as it's for their side. You are the hate monger. Myou are the one picking and choosing who should have the benefit of our first amendment rights. I'd say you are the evil but I really believe you are just to stupid and immature to understand the evil you spout.

Nnanji -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 9:51:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail how do you arrive at that bit of asswipe? The left needs to make up their mind. Do we single out all terrorism by race and religion or affiliated political groups OR do we not? IF they can't say the word, "Islamic Terrorism" then why must Trump say more specific words towards White Supremacy? They aren't being consistent. So which moslem terrorists were given a free pass to continue terrorist activities and attacks on protestors in the 'States, Greta? I'd be grateful if you could point at the news stories about that, as I seem to have missed them. For instance, the one that shot up the gay nightclub in Florida, CAIR which is the mouthpiece amount others. Along with every future one that is now being imported under Obama/leftist policies... Have to stop you there: Obama hasn't been the president since January. I'm surprised you didn't notice as there's been a bit of media attention on the new guy. Well, what a little cutsie. When was it, just two days ago you were talking about Regan and he hasn't been around for how long. What a hipocrite. And for your information, because I know you only pay attention to very narrow news sources, consider the refugees we're required to take from Australia because of Obama's agreement with them. Refugees Austrailia refused to allow entry into their country because of security reasons. Don't be more of an idiot than you naturally are.

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