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So as you're tarbrushing the antifa and BLM as groups entirely composed of violent terrorist thugs, can we assume that these wankers in Virginia speak for the whole of the right?
Or are you making generalisations selectively again?

Interesting that you post this

Now turn it around, and include the media arm of the Democrat party vs. white people who just like their historic statues and resent Black Lies Madder and antifa radicals, and the Democrat Party who funds and trains them

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how do you arrive at that bit of asswipe?

The left needs to make up their mind. Do we single out all terrorism by race and religion or affiliated political groups OR do we not?

IF they can't say the word, "Islamic Terrorism" then why must Trump say more specific words towards White Supremacy?

They aren't being consistent.

So which moslem terrorists were given a free pass to continue terrorist activities and attacks on protestors in the 'States, Greta? I'd be grateful if you could point at the news stories about that, as I seem to have missed them.

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What a pathetic sniveling ugly racist little man the president is,
As are his supporters

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

So as you're tarbrushing the antifa and BLM as groups entirely composed of violent terrorist thugs, can we assume that these wankers in Virginia speak for the whole of the right?
Or are you making generalisations selectively again?

Interesting that you post this

Now turn it around, and include the media arm of the Democrat party vs. white people who just like their historic statues and resent Black Lies Madder and antifa radicals, and the Democrat Party who funds and trains them

You can prove that the democrats are running BLM and the antifa then, can you?

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

how do you arrive at that bit of asswipe?

The left needs to make up their mind. Do we single out all terrorism by race and religion or affiliated political groups OR do we not?

IF they can't say the word, "Islamic Terrorism" then why must Trump say more specific words towards White Supremacy?

They aren't being consistent.

So which moslem terrorists were given a free pass to continue terrorist activities and attacks on protestors in the 'States, Greta? I'd be grateful if you could point at the news stories about that, as I seem to have missed them.

For instance, the one that shot up the gay nightclub in Florida, CAIR which is the mouthpiece amount others. Along with every future one that is now being imported under Obama/leftist policies...

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Bosco you seem to be trying everything you can think of to wriggle out of condemning the vicious racists and self declared fascists who were responsible for the terrorist incident in Charlottesville and the incitement to hate that preceded and accompanied it. Why is it so difficult, apparently impossible for you to say directly: 'There is no place for white supremacists, neo-Nazis and fascists in the USA I live in' ...?

This is not a controversial statement. Just about everyone with a functioning brain would agree with it. US politicians across the entire spectrum have voiced these sentiments publicly, up to and including the A-G Sessions. It doesn't imply anything about sensible Right wing politics that eschew the politics of hate. Surely you can see the need to condemn the terrorist attack and want to distance yourself from the people responsible ...?

The more you weasel out of saying this, the more people will conclude that you actually sympathise or agree with these thugs.

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

So as you're tarbrushing the antifa and BLM as groups entirely composed of violent terrorist thugs, can we assume that these wankers in Virginia speak for the whole of the right?
Or are you making generalisations selectively again?

Interesting that you post this

Now turn it around, and include the media arm of the Democrat party vs. white people who just like their historic statues and resent Black Lies Madder and antifa radicals, and the Democrat Party who funds and trains them

You can prove that the democrats are running BLM and the antifa then, can you?

Do your own research if you are that ignorant, howler boy

They're not Republican groups, and George Soros (a Democrat Party "man behind the curtain") absolutely funds both radical hate groups, and many others

Hillary, Obama, Sanders all kiss their asses and make lovey-lovey while everyone is looking. Have been doing that for a long time, definitely interconnected

Do your own research though, I don't cater to little retards like you

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Bosco you seem to be trying everything you can think of to wriggle out of condemning the vicious racists and self declared fascists who were responsible for the terrorist incident in Charlottesville and the incitement to hate that preceded and accompanied it. Why is it so difficult, apparently impossible for you to say directly: 'There is no place for white supremacists, neo-Nazis and fascists in the USA I live in' ...?

This is not a controversial statement. Just about everyone with a functioning brain would agree with it. US politicians across the entire spectrum have voiced these sentiments publicly, up to and including the A-G Sessions. It doesn't imply anything about sensible Right wing politics that eschew the politics of hate. Surely you can see the need to condemn the terrorist attack and want to distance yourself from the people responsible ...?

The more you weasel out of saying this, the more people will conclude that you actually sympathise or agree with these thugs.

The media wing of the Democrat party is never accurate

I am far from convinced that there were many racists in VA. People can resist radical Democrats without being racist. That being said, racists of every color have a right to their opinion and to speak their opinion in the USA. No one has "the right" to physically assault them for it, as these Democrat hate groups typically want to do. Really looks like it was Democrat groups who lit the violence up

Those who are racist, and I am sure some are racists, of course I do not condone that pov. Problem with your howling though, is that racists come in every color

There were surely racist blacks there who wanted to fuck up some white people, I demand you condemn them...

(You are an idiot)

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Many people are saying that yesterday's appalling incident was a spur of the moment thing, a rash act. Most people are now describing it as a terrorist act and a hate crime. But these two statements don't sit easily together, even if the murder turns out to be an unplanned sudden outpouring of rage.

The hate that motivated this killer wasn't born an instant before he decided to drive his car into a group of anti-fascist and anti-racist Americans. It wasn't a natural act. The hate that motivated him was a long time festering and churning inside him, nurtured by the ugly politics of the far Right, white supremacy and groups like the KKK. 'White nationalist' politics, seen as fringe only a year or two ago, have slowly been infiltrating the mainstream of US politics, fuelled by platforms such as Breitbart and individuals such as Trump and Bannon, who have given a certain respectability to it. In this context, Trump's refusal to explicitly condemn the far Right thugs is especially significant.

Is the US at a crossroads? Is it time for those mainstream politicians, who like Trump have been flirting with the far Right, stirring racial tensions and marginalising minorities, to decide (or be forced to decide) between their sympathy for the politics of far Right thuggery and conventional politics? To what extent has the dalliance between the forces of hate and the politicians who have harnessed these ugly forces to gain office laid the ground for terrorist acts such as we have just witnessed? What should happen if Trump refuses to distance himself and the office he occupies from these thugs? Is it time for the US to declare itself a zero tolerance zone for far Right thuggery and hate?

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- antifa is a reaction to the neo-Nazis. You have the cart pulling the horse.
- BLM is hardly terrorist.
- there is no hate america first group.

There ARE people who are full of shit, however.

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
Is the US at a crossroads? Is it time for those mainstream politicians, who like Trump have been flirting with the far Right, stirring racial tensions and marginalising minorities, to decide (or be forced to decide) between their sympathy for the politics of far Right thuggery and conventional politics? To what extent has the dalliance between the forces of hate and the politicians who have harnessed these ugly forces to gain office laid the ground for terrorist acts such as we have just witnessed? What should happen if Trump refuses to distance himself and the office he occupies from these thugs? Is it time for the US to declare itself a zero tolerance zone for far Right thuggery and hate?

El presidente is incapable of doing so, or even being able to adopt a consistent stance on the lunatic fringe of the right as they were a big element in his election, but he doesn't want the more mainstream elements of the Republican party to regard him as part of that movement. So he does the mealy mouth, he evades and ties himself into knots to weasel out of condemning the deplorables (which might trigger a nasty backlash from shitehawks who thought he was speaking for them with some o the drivel he spouted while campaigning), or excusing and trying to co-opt them (which will trigger a backlash from the rest of his 26%).
You could almost feel sorry for the shitgibbon over the dilemma he's got himself into over this if it wasn't self-inflicted.

Tell you what

When the Democrat politicians stand up to the violent communists, antifa and Black Lies Madder terrorists and Hate America First! groups, etc, we might stop laughing at you and your your mad howling about those awful white people who don't know their place

Tell you what

What about answering some of the questions I asked instead of trying to change the topic?

I for one will be very interested to hear your thoughts on the toxic relationship between Trump, Bannon and Breitbart and the terrorist incident in Charlottesville.

Surely you would agree that Trump is bringing the high office he holds into disrepute by flirting with far and looney Right racists and fascists ... wouldn't you ...?

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The White Supremacists don't seem to understand that point. David Duke specifically claims "we elected him."

You don't seem very clear on quite a few points.

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Many people are saying that yesterday's appalling incident was a spur of the moment thing, a rash act. Most people are now describing it as a terrorist act and a hate crime. But these two statements don't sit easily together, even if the murder turns out to be an unplanned sudden outpouring of rage.

The hate that motivated this killer wasn't born an instant before he decided to drive his car into a group of anti-fascist and anti-racist Americans. It wasn't a natural act. The hate that motivated him was a long time festering and churning inside him, nurtured by the ugly politics of the far Right, white supremacy and groups like the KKK. 'White nationalist' politics, seen as fringe only a year or two ago, have slowly been infiltrating the mainstream of US politics, fuelled by platforms such as Breitbart and individuals such as Trump and Bannon, who have given a certain respectability to it. In this context, Trump's refusal to explicitly condemn the far Right thugs is especially significant.

Is the US at a crossroads? Is it time for those mainstream politicians, who like Trump have been flirting with the far Right, stirring racial tensions and marginalising minorities, to decide (or be forced to decide) between their sympathy for the politics of far Right thuggery and conventional politics? To what extent has the dalliance between the forces of hate and the politicians who have harnessed these ugly forces to gain office laid the ground for terrorist acts such as we have just witnessed? What should happen if Trump refuses to distance himself and the office he occupies from these thugs? Is it time for the US to declare itself a zero tolerance zone for far Right thuggery and hate?

Why don't you provide a "reliable" link to where a main stream politician have been flirting with the far right and stirring racial tension. Provide actual actions or verbiage of those politicians, not projections from leftist useful idiots.

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Bosco you seem to be trying everything you can think of to wriggle out of condemning the vicious racists and self declared fascists who were responsible for the terrorist incident in Charlottesville and the incitement to hate that preceded and accompanied it. Why is it so difficult, apparently impossible for you to say directly: 'There is no place for white supremacists, neo-Nazis and fascists in the USA I live in' ...?

This is not a controversial statement. Just about everyone with a functioning brain would agree with it. US politicians across the entire spectrum have voiced these sentiments publicly, up to and including the A-G Sessions. It doesn't imply anything about sensible Right wing politics that eschew the politics of hate. Surely you can see the need to condemn the terrorist attack and want to distance yourself from the people responsible ...?

The more you weasel out of saying this, the more people will conclude that you actually sympathise or agree with these thugs.

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

how do you arrive at that bit of asswipe?

The left needs to make up their mind. Do we single out all terrorism by race and religion or affiliated political groups OR do we not?

IF they can't say the word, "Islamic Terrorism" then why must Trump say more specific words towards White Supremacy?

They aren't being consistent.

So which moslem terrorists were given a free pass to continue terrorist activities and attacks on protestors in the 'States, Greta? I'd be grateful if you could point at the news stories about that, as I seem to have missed them.

For instance, the one that shot up the gay nightclub in Florida, CAIR which is the mouthpiece amount others. Along with every future one that is now being imported under Obama/leftist policies...

Have to stop you there: Obama hasn't been the president since January. I'm surprised you didn't notice as there's been a bit of media attention on the new guy.