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Musicmystery -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 12:37:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance Community gardens are awesome. They should be on every political platform. Hard to imagine equating community gardens with communist regimes. Yet we have a few posters ready to go there. I never thought I'd see people defending neo-nazis as conservative champions of free speech. America has become a very weird place.

WinsomeDefiance -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 12:46:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance Community gardens are awesome. They should be on every political platform. Hard to imagine equating community gardens with communist regimes. Yet we have a few posters ready to go there. I never thought I'd see people defending neo-nazis as conservative champions of free speech. America has become a very weird place. It really has. Maybe it always has been? Mostly, radical groups just take advantage of various points in history when societal norms are in flux. Societal norms have been blown so far out of balance, Orange is the new black and neo- is the old guard. Weird times indeed.

Nnanji -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 1:07:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Danemora quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX He is mad because the president points out that most media outlets are propaganda, and really seems to believe that exercising one's own free speech right by pointing out the truth, is the same as censoring speech Actually, I'm scornful (rather than mad) because el presidente is only whining about propaganda that he disagrees with, and you're uncritical enough to present that as a protest about free speech rather than a crybaby throwing a tantrum because some of the media is biased against rather than for him. Why would anyone complain about media reports they agree with? You are being completely absurd and nonsensical. Trump may be rich, but even he cant have it both ways. The news cant be "fake" when it doesnt flatter him and "not fake" when it does Yes he can. Mostly different sources. Look how the snowflakes here will refuse to acknowledge information from Fox News. WM is one of the worst of those and yet he doesn't seem to allow people with differing views make the same point. It's pretty hypocritical.

Danemora -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 1:11:08 PM)
I actually prefer getting my news from a variety of news sources. Both sides of the spectrum as well, not just sources that support my viewpoint. But thats just me

Nnanji -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 1:14:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance Community gardens are awesome. They should be on every political platform. Hard to imagine equating community gardens with communist regimes. Yet we have a few posters ready to go there. I never thought I'd see people defending neo-nazis as conservative champions of free speech. America has become a very weird place. Wow! Pulled that out of your ass. It's almost like you planned that response to an assumed attack and used it even thoough there was no attack.

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 1:22:33 PM)
quote: So just as a topic of discussion, if we had to depend on one racial group to keep America going... whether you liked it or not... which racial group would you choose? The aboriginal Americans.

BoscoX -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 1:25:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance Community gardens are awesome. They should be on every political platform. Hard to imagine equating community gardens with communist regimes. Yet we have a few posters ready to go there. I never thought I'd see people defending neo-nazis as conservative champions of free speech. America has become a very weird place. Wow! Pulled that out of your ass. It's almost like you planned that response to an assumed attack and used it even thoough there was no attack. It's almost like he is trying to pretend that his post wasn't implying that alt left rioters are only interested in growing vegetables and flowers and playing the part of Mother Theresa to lepers And nothing more

tamaka -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 1:27:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance Community gardens are awesome. They should be on every political platform. Hard to imagine equating community gardens with communist regimes. Yet we have a few posters ready to go there. I never thought I'd see people defending neo-nazis as conservative champions of free speech. America has become a very weird place. Wow! Pulled that out of your ass. It's almost like you planned that response to an assumed attack and used it even thoough there was no attack. Yeah i noticed that too.

Nnanji -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 1:36:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: So just as a topic of discussion, if we had to depend on one racial group to keep America going... whether you liked it or not... which racial group would you choose? The aboriginal Americans. You mean the ones that came here and killed off the people that were already here and took their land, or then ones before that that came here and killed off the people that were already here and took their land, or the ones that were killed off long ago that you know nothing about?

WinsomeDefiance -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 1:47:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: So just as a topic of discussion, if we had to depend on one racial group to keep America going... whether you liked it or not... which racial group would you choose? The aboriginal Americans. I read that as which radical groups. I wouldn't vote on merit of race, but if I absolutely had to, I would go with ThatDizzyChicks idea.

tamaka -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 1:52:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: So just as a topic of discussion, if we had to depend on one racial group to keep America going... whether you liked it or not... which racial group would you choose? The aboriginal Americans. I read that as which radical groups. I wouldn't vote on merit of race, but if I absolutely had to, I would go with ThatDizzyChicks idea. That's cool. Why would you choose them here in 2017?

WinsomeDefiance -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 2:02:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: So just as a topic of discussion, if we had to depend on one racial group to keep America going... whether you liked it or not... which racial group would you choose? The aboriginal Americans. I read that as which radical groups. I wouldn't vote on merit of race, but if I absolutely had to, I would go with ThatDizzyChicks idea. That's cool. Why would you choose them here in 2017? My appreciation of Irony, as well as figuring if democracy becomes so polluted ones only option is race; then why the hell not. Vote for the race that was nearly wiped out of existence and hope they rule more wisely than we have.

bounty44 -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 3:22:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance Community gardens are awesome. They should be on every political platform. I think community gardens are awesome too, but one of the preferred ways to keep them that is to keep politicians' hands off them and leave them completely to the community.

bounty44 -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 3:30:36 PM)
the myth of the "peaceful noble savage" perhaps?

Musicmystery -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 4:37:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance Community gardens are awesome. They should be on every political platform. I think community gardens are awesome too, but one of the preferred ways to keep them that is to keep politicians' hands off them and leave them completely to the community. You have examples of politicians taking over community gardens, do you?

Nnanji -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 5:41:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance Community gardens are awesome. They should be on every political platform. I think community gardens are awesome too, but one of the preferred ways to keep them that is to keep politicians' hands off them and leave them completely to the community. You have examples of politicians taking over community gardens, do you? Ya, they wanted to put up a statue in it. One commemorating them. But as they were a member of an exclusive country club the community rebelled against the 1%er. Of course this was before it was fashionable to rebel against fascists. So rather than hit the politician with sticks, throw bottles of urine at him and light him up with a flame thrower, they just shit on his car and he went away.

Lucylastic -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 5:51:41 PM)
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DesideriScuri -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 6:01:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tkman117 You know the lengths you seem to go to in order to excuse racist and neo-nazi behavior and actions speaks volumes about yourself and the state of your country. Even if that's one opinion piece, I know many people outside the USA who hold a similar opinion towards you dear leader. And if opinion pieces arent factual, do you also agree that Hanity should be taken off the air? Everything he says, like Oriely back when he was around, is opinion after all. I think it's more important to people outside the US what other people outside the US think of the US President. Are other countries going to invade because they think our President is a d-bag? I highly doubt it. So, to that point, I couldn't care less what they think of Trump. Are they going to stop making trade deals, treaties, etc. with the US because of their views of Trump? That might not be a bad thing for the US anyway, so, again, I don't give a fuck. What might happen if the leaders of other countries believe Trump is believed to be a neo-nazi sympathizer? What, in your opinion, should Trump do if leaders of other countries think he's a neo-nazi sympathizer? Is there any way for him to actually combat that opinion? The worst thing about all this is that much of the perception can be blamed on the US media for fomenting the image, even though Trump's first comment about Charlotteville was correct.

BoscoX -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 6:08:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic [image]https://i.imgur.com/uQmtE2F.jpg[/image] Watcha spikin' that coffee with. Sumthin' a lot stronger than just caffeine, I bet 'Cause everybody here is calling the Nazis "the Nazis" I would say it's you loons who are having that issue, with your antifa fascists, trying to pretend that they are sweet innocent little Catholic school girls or harmless Buddhist monks who never even swat flies or whatever

DesideriScuri -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 6:10:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery There's another important point: - who was there to stir up hatred - who was there opposing the group there to stir up hatred I'll agree there are no saints here. But to pretend the first is fine because of the second is silly at best. Then why was it not acceptable for the President to condemn the hatred, bigotry and violence on all sides?

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