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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/13/2017 6:45:33 PM   
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From the NYT via Drudge, the police may have been ordered to stand down yet again, so the alt left rioters could get as nasty as they wanted. One of them died, possibly as a direct result

POLICE 'STAND DOWN' BLAMED FOR VIRGINIA CHAOS

An editorial-style opinion from a FB post I saw, that fits here rather well:

For over a year at nearly every event NOT sponsored by Leftist Democrat and Black Lives Matter groups, the Police have stepped aside and allowed horrendous acts of criminal violence against event participants while rarely arresting anyone committing these heinous acts.

These violent groups, like Facist Antifa, are now inciting murder at these events.

Who is allowing this to happen ?

Will the FBI please investigate these groups and who is ordering the police to allow them to commit violence ?
In March 2016, Presidential candidate Donald Trump was forced to shut down his campaign rally in Chicago due to violent rioters making it unsafe for his followers to attend the event.

On June 2, 2016, Trump supporters were assaulted, spit on, beaten, cold-cocked, egged, chased, tackled and bloodied as they left the San Jose Trump rally by mobs of far left, Mexican nationalist, Socialist, SEIU and anarchist thugs.

One female Trump supporter was egged and spit on by hundreds of Mexican nationalists chanting “F*ck you!” Another Trump supporter was cold-cocked with a bag of rocks while walking to his car and left bleeding.

The San Jose Police released documents on the planned brutal assault of Trump supporters. An undercover San Jose Officer reported after the rally that throughout the afternoon and evening he watched several individuals wearing “Trump” articles of clothing getting punched, kicked and pushed. But the police did very little to protect them.

A Liberal professor by the name of Eric Canton beat Trump supporters WITH A BIKE LOCK while siding with Antifa at the Berkeley Pro-Trump rally.

The police were told to stand down in Berkeley.

The police also were told to stand down last year in Baltimore when Black Lives Matter rioters tore down that American city.
Yesterday at a white supremacist event in Charlottesville, Virginia, people were killed. Violent fascist rioters like Antifa were there en masse to shut down the event.

One reporter by the name of Faith Goldy was five feet from where individuals were mowed down after being run over by a lunatic in a car. Goldy noted that the police were no where to be found when the incident occurred.
The white supremacists were told to disband and discontinue their protest but the Black Lives Matter and Antifa thugs were allowed to continue their protesting.

Antifa and Black Lives Matter were still protesting when the car appeared out of nowhere and ran over people.
Robert Barnes @Barnes_Law

ACLU confirms that police were given stand-down order. This invited the violence the city used to shut down a court-permitted protest.

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After Police forced #UniteTheRight to disperse into crowds of Antifa, I was attacked by Antifa - thrown on ground, kicked, beaten w/ poles.

How many more people will be criminally attacked and murdered before the Police stop in to arrest these rioters like racist Black Lives Matter and Antifa fascists?

Who is behind these violent criminal acts ?

WE DIDN'T START THIS !!!

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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/13/2017 6:57:13 PM   
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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/13/2017 8:13:38 PM   
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I know MM already started a thread on this, but I specifically wanna break down this stupid article.

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/least-one-dead-white-nationalists-ignite-virginia-clashes-000248578.html

First of all, this is a white supremacist event correct? Why the hell are the other races bothering to "counter protest". They should just ignore them since it's already UNIVERSALLY recognised by MAJORITY of Americans and the Whole World that this group is Evil and a danger to society. We know that the goal of White Supremacists is to kill non-white people or cause their extinction. THIS IS THEIR modus Operandi. Why the fuck would they go out there and expect not to get hurt by the people who wanna kill them? How idiotic is this?

Ya know, no matter how much I hate Islam. IF Muslims goes on the street for some stupid pro-ISIS Islamic gathering. I don't think we need to counter protest them at all. It's like, whatever. Going out there, I expect the Muslims to get violent, those that support ISIS want all Non-Muslims to die. So what's the point of counter protesting that shit?

Now stupid Nancy Pelosi comments:
"Repeat after me, @realDonaldTrump: white supremacy is an affront to American values."

Well Nancy, Trump 101% agrees with that! Like nobody disagree that white supremacy is an affront to American Values. NOBODY! It's like a UNIVERSAL agreement that it is! Now I want to hear Nancy Pelosi say "Islam is an affront to American values!"

Then another idiot Senator wrote:
"Mr. President - we must call evil by its name," Republican U.S. Senator Cory Gardner wrote on social network Twitter.


Serious fucking really?? When has Neo Nazi and White Supremacists not been officially categorized as Evil? When? They are already seen as evil UNIVERSALLY! And this is UNIVERSALLY agreed upon! He should be more worried about Islam not being called evil by its name!

This is so stupid the whole thing.

And those stupid politicians cannot seem to understand something.

1) White Supermacy and Nazis are already universally labelled and recognised as evil organisations

2) Islam is an evil organisation but the whole world deny they are evil and label them as peaceful.

HUGE difference.

Of course when White Supremacists kill people, it's nice to see white people who are not responsible for their actions scream and criticise the white supremacists.

But when Muslims commit evil, all Muslims can say is, "Whatever that Muslim do has nothing to do with me."

Now in this, those politicians are showing an example of, IF they do not support the killing of minority races, they would feel outrage that their own kind killed minorities. That is a normal reaction of a human being who is genuinely against the killing of minorities.

When the silence is so loud from majority Muslims with Muslims killing non-Muslims.

I know in their hearts, they all want non-Muslims to die.



Except that Donald Trump has yet to denounce these groups, which he carried in the election.

And even members of his own party are critical of his statements:

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Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) said on “Fox News Sunday” that Trump needs to “correct the record here.”

“These groups seem to believe they have a friend in Donald Trump in the White House,” Graham said. “I don’t know why they believe that, but they don’t see me as a friend in the Senate, and I would urge the president to dissuade these groups that he’s their friend.”


The simple truth is that when it is a minority member committing a crime, he comments on their race.

Remember, he characterized Mexicans as drug dealers, murderers and rapists 'although some of them may be good."

He has yet to comment on the mosque bombing, although a member of his staff suggested it was a fake hate crime to gather sympathy for Muslims.

He has yet to comment when a man was killed coming to the aid of two women being insulted as Muslim.

But he is very outspoken when the victim is white and the perp is of a different skin color.

Wow, most of the time you have some to mostly truth in your posts. This time not much of it.


You want to show me where there is no truth? Sen. Graham made his statement on FOX news Source

As far as his not speaking about attacks on Mosques, Sikhs, or the man killed coming to the aid of two woman being insulted and accosted for appearing Muslim, he has said nothing.

In fact the only response from the white house about the minnesota mosque bombing was the trump was not speaking on it because it was a 'fake hate crime' as Sebastian Gorka, a White House adviser and former Breitbart contributor, suggested:
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that the attack was actually a fake. “We’ve had a series of crimes committed, alleged hate crimes, by rightwing individuals in the last six months that turned out to actually have been propagated by the left,” he said.


The truth was the one mosque related incident was actually perpetrated by a member of the mosque.

Trump's comments on the murders of two men in Portland Or. defending women being harrassed because they looked Muslim came almost a week after the incident, and only after various Muslim groups pressed the issue.

In point of fact, it is hard to find President Trump saying anything specific about hate crimes against Sikhs, Muslims or anyone else for that matter, but it he is quick to use his twitter account to speak out about crimes against whites.

His statement about Charlottesville was vague at best and instead of pointing a finger at the one group responsible, he made a general statement.

I am not saying he is a racist, I am saying he is a politician, and he is not going to do or say a fucking thing that alienates his base, the far right racists, bigots and Islamaphobic ultra conservatives that he carried with ease.

Here are his own words

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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/13/2017 8:26:34 PM   
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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/13/2017 8:38:13 PM   
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Greta there was a time not that long ago...most certainly in my generation... when blacks were too afraid to protest the likes of the racists alt right. Things have changed and blacks will no longer huddle in fear. And not just blacks but fair minded whites will now stand up to racism and confront it on the streets or in the courts.

Now the courts and law enforcement no longer beat back legal protests with clubs and dogs and jail sentences. Right now is the time to push back against Trump enabled racists otherwise they may loose hard fought gains in their civil rights.

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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/13/2017 8:39:18 PM   
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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/14/2017 1:03:39 AM   
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I feel like the fact that there were Neo-Nazis in the mix! Anybody in today's world who proudly call themselves Nazis, is seriously, if you are a minority, should never go near that person, period. They are not safe!

I've always found anybody who identify themselves as Nazi loud and proud often very nasty to non-white folks and high potential of violence occurring if you engage with them.

I just feel the whole counter-protest is stupid in this context.



You have mentioned on more than one occasion that you are a nazi and love the way the little nazi who runs that third world shithole called singapore does his job.

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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/14/2017 3:47:10 AM   
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Greta there was a time not that long ago...most certainly in my generation... when blacks were too afraid to protest the likes of the racists alt right. Things have changed and blacks will no longer huddle in fear. And not just blacks but fair minded whites will now stand up to racism and confront it on the streets or in the courts.

Now the courts and law enforcement no longer beat back legal protests with clubs and dogs and jail sentences. Right now is the time to push back against Trump enabled racists otherwise they may loose hard fought gains in their civil rights.

Butch


I think there is a huge difference between holding your own rally to protest racism.

And attending a racism rally to counter protest. Knowing there are filled with racist people out there who can get violent.

It's the difference between holding your own event or attending somebody else's event that is filled with the type of potential murderers who wants your life.



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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/14/2017 3:49:34 AM   
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You have mentioned on more than one occasion that you are a nazi and love the way the little nazi who runs that third world shithole called singapore does his job.

Nazi like the word "Fuck" has multiple meanings. If you can't understand what Nazi means in my context of using it about my government, you're just dumb. Like if you call a female a "Nazi", it usually means she is being bossy and over-handed. Not referring to her racism.

Because Nazi could mean Racism which my government is not.

Or Nazi could simply mean, "over-handed" in wanting to control everything, which is my government.

Just like Fuck could mean sex, or Fuck could mean, "Hell".

Just like "Jew" is a race or a religion.

Try and understand the context.

In this context, Neo-Nazis are like an organisation who are about white supremacy.

In Singapore context, our Nazi Government is all about being very strong handed and strict in upholding laws of the country. Where if you dare protest against them, you'd be arrested and put behind bars. Nothing to do with Racism, but to do with establishing order. Most people who were put behind bars for protesting were Chinese. Their own race. They used to jail communists.

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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/14/2017 4:04:55 AM   
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I think that we cannot stay home and not confront these idiots. I think that to say the people on the side of what is good and just should not have gone is absolutely ridiculous. I think that insinuating that someone who was peacefully standing for what she believed in, and was mowed down by a lunatic, should have stayed home is an insult to every human being who has ever marched and protested for equal rights.

I think in almost every event in the world that has a protest and a counter protest usually happens in violence.

Even Trump Rallies, where there are people protesting Trump and countering protest the protestors.

I think counter protest should either be held in a different area or a different day.

I think it's stupid for people to risk their life to confront murderers who are out there rallying to kill them. Especially when these group of people are such an insignificant tiny minority. Referring to the White Supremacist. US is not having an epidemic of White Supremacy. Or else, Obama could have never been elected. And you can't have a state that Bobby Jindal could be Governor.

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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/14/2017 4:17:56 AM   
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The simple truth is that when it is a minority member committing a crime, he comments on their race.

Remember, he characterized Mexicans as drug dealers, murderers and rapists 'although some of them may be good."

He has yet to comment on the mosque bombing, although a member of his staff suggested it was a fake hate crime to gather sympathy for Muslims.

He has yet to comment when a man was killed coming to the aid of two women being insulted as Muslim.

But he is very outspoken when the victim is white and the perp is of a different skin color.

Because White Supremacy is a very tiny minority in the US, compared with crimes by Hispanic people and Black people.

There are probably more Hispanic and Black people in Prison in the US than White Supremacists in existence.

Generally the Left Leaning Folks will be uber outrage at crimes commited by white people, but silent on crimes commited by minorities. Because it's like stepping eggshells when even mentioning any negative about minorities.

And the right, just say things as it is.

Statistics don't lie.

When white folks in the US are committing way more crime than people of colour, I am sure Trump is gonna start singling them by race too.

And if you also notice, there are so many more races, besides Blacks/Hispanics/"Muslim countries folks".

But he didn't single out Filipinos, Vietnamese, Japanese etc. Because I have to assume those in those ethnicity have lower crimes. When they are gonna start appearing frequently in the crime file more often, they are so gonna be single out by race too.

PS: Trump didn't say ALL Mexicans are rapists and murderers. He said the Illegal Mexicans are rapists and murderers. Lie by the left media. He never once said word for word, ALL Mexicans. He said that Mexico send their worst to US. This means that majority of Mexico left back in Mexico are their best! It's literally not saying Mexicans are bad.

All he said is, Mexico is just happily dumping their criminals toward the US, so that another country can deal with their worst. And they can enjoy and keep the best in their own country. And honestly considering Mexico is ridden with crime and over their heads with it. It is a good idea to close an eye on their border towards US and not bother and just let their people illegally cross and be another country's problem. It benefits them.

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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/14/2017 4:23:17 AM   
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LOL. yeah, no. you are wholly incorrect.

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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/14/2017 4:26:51 AM   
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LOL. yeah, no. you are wholly incorrect.


You mean you think there are more white supremacists in existence in the US? Than minorities in Prison?

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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/14/2017 4:32:41 AM   
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yes.

http://www.newsweek.com/right-wing-extremism-islamist-terrorism-donald-trump-steve-bannon-628381

extremest nutsucker (redundant I know) terrorism, that the cowardly trump will not say, is rife in america.

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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/14/2017 4:38:21 AM   
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The interesting thing about race is that it is sooo sensitive in the US, because of the black history and how they treated the blacks.

But I just tried to google population of white supremacist and could not find any census on it. Only that, there are 930 groups of white supremacy. But these groups could have like just 100 members each or something. They don't have huge membership.

Freedom of Speech in the US kept them alive. But they could have been easily outlawed, by their tiny numbers.




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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/14/2017 4:43:02 AM   
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yes.

http://www.newsweek.com/right-wing-extremism-islamist-terrorism-donald-trump-steve-bannon-628381

extremest nutsucker (redundant I know) terrorism, that the cowardly trump will not say, is rife in america.


Most Right Wing Terrorist are White Supremacist Yes. Because no White Supremacists would consider themselves a Leftie. Just like majority of minorities find the Left more friendly towards minorities because the Left is less likely to call them out when they commit anything wrong.

And naturally, white supremacist will support the political party that is more open to criticism of minorities.

But is White Supremacy, something that is home grown in the US, and scattered right inside US Soil, such an epidemic of danger like Islamic Terrorists?

It's like home grown terrorists who are right in home ground and should be doing way more damage but is barely doing anything compared to foreign terrorists who are invading and doing way more damage than the home grown terrorists.

The worst crime "white supremacist" did was in the past when they were majority and enslaved an entire Negro population. That was history. Just like the worst crimes Germans did was gas Jews. And worst crime Jap did was killed and enslaved alot of Oriental people of other countries. They did their terrorism in the past as majority in their country. They are not the current problem as they are no longer a significant majority.

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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/14/2017 4:44:24 AM   
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moreso. we have 12.5 million muslims and about 3x that in nutsuckers.

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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/14/2017 4:48:29 AM   
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Greta there was a time not that long ago...most certainly in my generation... when blacks were too afraid to protest the likes of the racists alt right. Things have changed and blacks will no longer huddle in fear. And not just blacks but fair minded whites will now stand up to racism and confront it on the streets or in the courts.

Now the courts and law enforcement no longer beat back legal protests with clubs and dogs and jail sentences. Right now is the time to push back against Trump enabled racists otherwise they may loose hard fought gains in their civil rights.

Butch

Fantastic comments, Butch. Well said. Blew me away. Thank you!
The gains of the 1960s Civil Rights Act are being eroded, and protest in the streets is the only way the minorities can arouse attention. Greta ignores or is ignorant about the long history of chains and whips and lynchings and oppression of minorities in this country, and maybe inadvertently she blames the victims with her "stay at home" comments. Good work, ol' bean!

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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/14/2017 4:52:03 AM   
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If you are saying there are like 36Mil white supremacist, where did this figure come from?

Doubt it's that much.


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RE: The white supremacy incident - 8/14/2017 7:01:49 AM   
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Greta there was a time not that long ago...most certainly in my generation... when blacks were too afraid to protest the likes of the racists alt right. Things have changed and blacks will no longer huddle in fear. And not just blacks but fair minded whites will now stand up to racism and confront it on the streets or in the courts.


Because of Democrat racists. Literally, because of white Democrat KKK racists.

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Now the courts and law enforcement no longer beat back legal protests with clubs and dogs and jail sentences. Right now is the time to push back against Trump enabled racists otherwise they may loose hard fought gains in their civil rights.

Butch


President Trump has nothing to do with any racists.

You are a howler.

Democrats are still pushing to have an "free" abortion clinic installed in as many black neighborhoods as possible (they have only changed their tactics)

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