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Real0ne -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 10:54:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

You want to talk about US atrocities, they in collusion with the brits orchestrated and created world war 2, funded hitler, paid for auschwitz, all as an investment to destroy germany competitive market edge, and to accomplish those ends willfully and strategically fried millions of innocent german men women and children outright murder and slaughtering them in violation of the geneva conventions articles of war, only to invent a huge cover story to cover their evil deeds by blaming the germans for what they did, that we now know is a huge fucking hoax called the jewish holocaust which as we know today there is no 'material' evidence what so ever that supports it, especially now that the russian released the death toll records.

The US is a death machine run by the ZioJiz nutsucker atheists who have one god, mo-money for them less for everyone else.


What, like they invented the concentration camp before the Bengalis or you people did?



no like you are still to fucking stupid to comprehend simple english.




Real0ne -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 11:01:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

All disagreements aside, Bosco, my reasons for not liking Trump has nothing to do with being conservative or liberal. It has to do with my personal belief that every politician currently in office, regardless of party or philosophy, are there just to be paid for doing absolutely nothing for the people and everything for themselves.

In fact, I would favor a constitutional amendment to the effect that to serve in public office, one must have worked in civil service for no less than ten years, as a cop, firefighter, in the court system (and not a defense attorney) or active duty military, or some other public service job where they are paid by a government agency.

I would also favor a law that makes it illegal for elected officials to benefit in any way from their time in office, meaning no money from lobbyists, from book sales, and must live on their pay as an elected official.





I am on board with the 2 bolded, however its far better they have no experience in office as that is how they become imbedded in crime, once the system is well understood to the point they know they can get away with it. The constitution is fine as it is, we need to get rid of these supreme court assholes all the way down to asswipe bloodsucking attorneys who work for ZioJiz inc.

We need congress to honor their trust duties and oath of office and the constitution they swore that oath to, not the extorionist mobocracy it has evolved into, simple as that.

How do you fix a gubmint that has drifted so far from its own organic law? One person I had this discussion with said da gubmint with their bullshit self protectionist laws of oppression with no reasonable possibility of 'redress for grievances' raised the ante so high the only option is revolution.

Hey and as a side note I personally had a court rip me off of a jury trial for one case by completely misconstruing the law and reconstructing it by wordsmithing in favor of the state, so much for redress of grievances.






WhoreMods -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 11:10:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

You want to talk about US atrocities, they in collusion with the brits orchestrated and created world war 2, funded hitler, paid for auschwitz, all as an investment to destroy germany competitive market edge, and to accomplish those ends willfully and strategically fried millions of innocent german men women and children outright murder and slaughtering them in violation of the geneva conventions articles of war, only to invent a huge cover story to cover their evil deeds by blaming the germans for what they did, that we now know is a huge fucking hoax called the jewish holocaust which as we know today there is no 'material' evidence what so ever that supports it, especially now that the russian released the death toll records.

The US is a death machine run by the ZioJiz nutsucker atheists who have one god, mo-money for them less for everyone else.


What, like they invented the concentration camp before the Bengalis or you people did?



no like you are still to fucking stupid to comprehend simple english.

Where did the British have a concentration camp before the Bengalis or you people?




Real0ne -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 11:12:20 AM)

if it were up your ass you still would not know, troll

I am still waiting for one tiny scrap of material evidence of your alleged jewish holocaust, cough it up asshole along with the shortage of 1.5 million jews yad scammer is still looking for your 6million holocaust




WhoreMods -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 11:17:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

if it were up your ass you still would not know, troll

I am still waiting for one tiny scrap of material evidence of your alleged jewish holocaust, cough it up asshole along with the shortage of 1.5 million jews yad scammer is still looking for your 6million holocaust


You answer the fucking question, and I'll stop asking it. You've yet to provide anything solid for the other matter you've raised as an attempt at evasion, come to that:
let's see the names of the half million dead at Dresden.




Nnanji -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 11:18:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Robert E. Lee's own words on slavery:

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Robert E. Lee letter dated December 27, 1856:

I was much pleased the with President's message. His views of the systematic and progressive efforts of certain people at the North to interfere with and change the domestic institutions of the South are truthfully and faithfully expressed. The consequences of their plans and purposes are also clearly set forth. These people must be aware that their object is both unlawful and foreign to them and to their duty, and that this institution, for which they are irresponsible and non-accountable, can only be changed by them through the agency of a civil and servile war. There are few, I believe, in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil. It is idle to expatiate on its disadvantages. I think it is a greater evil to the white than to the colored race. While my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more deeply engaged for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, physically, and socially. The painful discipline they are undergoing is necessary for their further instruction as a race, and will prepare them, I hope, for better things. How long their servitude may be necessary is known and ordered by a merciful Providence. Their emancipation will sooner result from the mild and melting influences of Christianity than from the storm and tempest of fiery controversy. This influence, though slow, is sure. The doctrines and miracles of our Saviour have required nearly two thousand years to convert but a small portion of the human race, and even among Christian nations what gross errors still exist! While we see the course of the final abolition of human slavery is still onward, and give it the aid of our prayers, let us leave the progress as well as the results in the hands of Him who, chooses to work by slow influences, and with whom a thousand years are but as a single day. Although the abolitionist must know this, must know that he has neither the right not the power of operating, except by moral means; that to benefit the slave he must not excite angry feelings in the master; that, although he may not approve the mode by which Providence accomplishes its purpose, the results will be the same; and that the reason he gives for interference in matters he has no concern with, holds good for every kind of interference with our neighbor, -still, I fear he will persevere in his evil course. . . . Is it not strange that the descendants of those Pilgrim Fathers who crossed the Atlantic to preserve their own freedom have always proved the most intolerant of the spiritual liberty of others?


Correct me if I'm wrong but your post seems to fail for a historian by judging historical events by present norms. Lee was against slavery and owned none even though it may have been economically advantageous for him. He clearly states in portions of the letter you did not bold that slavery was a moral evil. He then argued that the abolition of slavery would come about quicker from Christian influence rather than a war.




tamaka -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 11:43:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

if it were up your ass you still would not know, troll

I am still waiting for one tiny scrap of material evidence of your alleged jewish holocaust, cough it up asshole along with the shortage of 1.5 million jews yad scammer is still looking for your 6million holocaust



Isn't there a burial site somewhere?




tamaka -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 11:45:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Aibo

Now seriously, I do not have any problem with any of those statues.
In Europe there are a number of historical personas with an ambiguous past - and those statues do indeed remain.
One example is the statue of Carolus Rex / Charles XII in Stockholm, the neo Nazi have on several occasions rallied there.
But no one have even suggested that the statue should not remain in place.

When the politically correct try to revise history they're going down a very dangerous path - if they have not done so already.



They want to erase the past of the Democrats.




BoscoX -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 12:55:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: Aibo

Now seriously, I do not have any problem with any of those statues.
In Europe there are a number of historical personas with an ambiguous past - and those statues do indeed remain.
One example is the statue of Carolus Rex / Charles XII in Stockholm, the neo Nazi have on several occasions rallied there.
But no one have even suggested that the statue should not remain in place.

When the politically correct try to revise history they're going down a very dangerous path - if they have not done so already.



They want to erase the past of the Democrats.



In that case they should just condemn the Democrat party and tear it down, as everything else falls well short




bounty44 -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 1:05:20 PM)

somehow related to all this is the liberals contempt for the founders, and by extension, the constitution (and the religious/socioeconomic system) ---a mostly slave holding bunch of rich white people many of whom where were also Christian.




Real0ne -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 1:06:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

if it were up your ass you still would not know, troll

I am still waiting for one tiny scrap of material evidence of your alleged jewish holocaust, cough it up asshole along with the shortage of 1.5 million jews yad scammer is still looking for your 6million holocaust



Isn't there a burial site somewhere?




claimed burial sites which produced no evidence when examined, in fact after people started testing one 'claimed' site was quickly buried under 3 feet of rock so it could not be inspected and tested, the ones that were turned up undisturbed ground but they found some cool old fossils and and animal bones.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 2:12:41 PM)

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Think logically, you have a permit for your wedding and the next thing you know you are overrun with Nazis
because while you needed a permit they didn't so you wedding is ruined.

Yeah, that's right, but too fucking bad, that is what the Constitution says, or are you claiming that my desire for a happy wedding supersedes the rights of others? The Constitution is very clear, any law that limits the ability of people to protest in even the smallest way is illegal. If that fucks up somebody's wedding, well tough shit, that is the price of freedom.
If you don't like this, and think that the government should be allowed to put some limitations or controls, then amend the Constitution, but just making bullshit "permit" rules is just that bullshit, and the fact that you are arguing for the government to blatantly ignore the 1st amendment proves what I said earlier; you are one fucking sad excuse for an American, really fucking sad.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 2:19:59 PM)

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It does not so restrict states and municipalities.

Read the rest of the Constitution, dipshit.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 2:21:39 PM)

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I am not changing the subject, keeping them apart was from the beginning about safety.

Yes you are, the argument we are having is about the government's legal authority to require permits.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 2:24:15 PM)

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The magazine limits in NY make every semi automatic pistol I own (it is 7) so yes they do infringe upon the right to own.

Nope. You can keep & bear a handgun with a smaller magazine size, therefore your right to keep and bear arms is not infringed.
Before you reply, READ THE FUCKING CONSTITUTION!!!!!!




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 2:25:40 PM)

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No part of that is any law that infringes on the right to free speech you fucking idiots.

Free speech is not the only thing covered in the 1st amendment, you fucking idiot. READ THE FUCKING CONSTITUTION!




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 2:27:31 PM)

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This permit thing has been argued in the courts and upheld, by conservative and liberal fucking supreme courts.

LOL
Too fucking funny. The Supreme Court has been undermining the fucking Constitution from day one you dimwitted Yank.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 2:30:53 PM)

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In fact, I would favor a constitutional amendment to the effect that to serve in public office, one must have worked in civil service for no less than ten years, as a cop, firefighter, in the court system (and not a defense attorney) or active duty military, or some other public service job where they are paid by a government agency.

Now that's a really fucking stupid idea.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 2:34:00 PM)

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the liberals contempt for the founders, and by extension, the constitution

Funny, it is the conservatives who argue for ignoring the constitution most of the time




tamaka -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/19/2017 2:49:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

if it were up your ass you still would not know, troll

I am still waiting for one tiny scrap of material evidence of your alleged jewish holocaust, cough it up asshole along with the shortage of 1.5 million jews yad scammer is still looking for your 6million holocaust



Isn't there a burial site somewhere?




claimed burial sites which produced no evidence when examined, in fact after people started testing one 'claimed' site was quickly buried under 3 feet of rock so it could not be inspected and tested, the ones that were turned up undisturbed ground but they found some cool old fossils and and animal bones.




You mean millions of people were killed but we can't find the bones?




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