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MrRodgers -> RE: The Swedish socialist utopia (8/21/2017 7:13:08 PM)
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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
TDC, can you link us to your own definition of 'socialism'?
No, because I don't have my own definition of socialism. I use THE definition, as employed by political scientists and as defined by those who originated and developed the theories of socialism. I could, however link you to a large number of books that would explain it all to you in great detail, but that would entail you reading for a few months, which is beyond your interest, so here is the toddler version for you: The means of production and distribution (i.e. the factories and stores, etc), are owned by those who work in them, not financiers, investors, and stock holders.
Now, there are a number of variants, off-shoots, related philosophies, and outright bastardizations of this basic concept (Social democracy, market socialism, state capitalism, Marxism, Leninism, Marxist-Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Euro-Communism, etc. etc. etc.)
The thing to keep in mind at all times is that socialism is NOT for government anything, as socialism is opposed to any form of nation-state or government, and is in fact very much an anti-statist free-market libertarian ideology, it differs from capitalism on the question of who should own the wealth produced by the labour of the workers.
I'll go with this one thank you.
Socialism is a closely intertwined set of liberating ideas and social movements that emerged in the aftermath of the French Revolution. No single definition encompasses the many socialist variants that took root in Europe and America, but socialism enfolds certain key ideas. As products of the Enlightenment, socialists believe in the power of rational thought, in the malleability of economic institutions and social mores, and in a humanistic solidarity that transcends the nation-state.
In such a socialist world, the major instruments of production, distribution, and exchange are owned and administered for the welfare of all. Socialism entails the common ownership of the means of production, either through the state or some other mechanism of collective rule, and it seeks a broad and equitable distribution of the wealth generated by capital, (and labor) especially in so far as early-nineteenth-century industrialism demonstrated a capacity to generate both great wealth and extreme social inequality. (and ever since)
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Notice production, distribution, and exchange are owned and administered for the welfare of all. That means ownership is by govt, by investors, management and employees. (workers)
There wouldn't even need to be these concepts in economy if the investor class wasn't so careless, corrupt and greedy. But a short look at economic history shows this always to be the case wherever power concentrates. All throughout history, wherever power and money concentrate...the people (labor)...get fucked.
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