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Real0ne -> Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 11:13:31 AM)
The guy was allegedly told by the police to drive where he ended up driving. This video shows someone hitting the car with a bat. The driver most likely panicked and wasnt speeding at the time the car was hit. Did the lefties act of violence cause him to panic? Looking around to see hundreds of people with sticks and bats then hearing your car getting hit? We can see and hear the car getting hit prior to his hitting anyone. https://streamable.com/21gc9

Nnanji -> RE: Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 11:18:51 AM)
I'm willing to wait for all of the facts to come in on this. I'm sure they will be made public as the trial moves forward.

Real0ne -> RE: Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 11:29:39 AM)
Facts? Thats no fun! Who can masturbate with facts?

Danemora -> RE: Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 11:33:24 AM)
~FRing it~ I too will let that play out in a court of law rather than the court of public opinion. His car wasnt made of goose down though. And Louisville Slugger hasnt introduced steel plated bats. Besides that...I wonder how much of a threat a baseball bat presents to me while Im behind the wheel of a 3000+lbs muscle car with my foot on the gas? Not a whole lot in my honest opinion.

BoscoX -> RE: Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 11:41:34 AM)
Was it a bat or a crowbar Kinda hard to tell from that video what was going on, if he was mowing them down when he got his car hit or if his car was hit first. Either way mowing people down with a car is homicide, regardless of whether the alt left clowns were beating up his car or not. He proved that he had reverse gear, going forward into the crowd wasn't a legitimate option That was murder

BamaD -> RE: Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 12:35:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX Was it a bat or a crowbar Kinda hard to tell from that video what was going on, if he was mowing them down when he got his car hit or if his car was hit first. Either way mowing people down with a car is homicide, regardless of whether the alt left clowns were beating up his car or not. He proved that he had reverse gear, going forward into the crowd wasn't a legitimate option That was murder Were the windows broken? That would change the threat level.

Real0ne -> RE: Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 12:47:47 PM)
BIG mistake to ASSume the courts work with 'truth', a court is a contest, and while it may provide more facts than the media it often does not provide 'truth', especially when it gets political or when known or unknown gubmint actors are involved. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Avery

WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 12:48:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne Facts? Thats no fun! Who can masturbate with facts? Facts are sexy.

Nnanji -> RE: Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 12:49:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Danemora ~FRing it~ I too will let that play out in a court of law rather than the court of public opinion. His car wasnt made of goose down though. And Louisville Slugger hasnt introduced steel plated bats. Besides that...I wonder how much of a threat a baseball bat presents to me while Im behind the wheel of a 3000+lbs muscle car with my foot on the gas? Not a whole lot in my honest opinion. Louisville Slugger does make aluminum bats of aircraft grade material. As hard as steel. Surround your car with a dozen people with such bats and I'm betting you'd have a different perspective. Aluminum bats are now used in all leagues except professional baseball.

Real0ne -> RE: Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 12:54:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX Was it a bat or a crowbar Kinda hard to tell from that video what was going on, if he was mowing them down when he got his car hit or if his car was hit first. Either way mowing people down with a car is homicide, regardless of whether the alt left clowns were beating up his car or not. He proved that he had reverse gear, going forward into the crowd wasn't a legitimate option That was murder Good question, that thunk we heard was damn loud and it did not sound like just one, it sounded like more than one. We can see the car was more or less in the open at the time, it would not surprize me if the kid was scared shitless after his car was hit that hard. If the police told him that was the way he must go what choice did he have? There was crowd in either direction, and some people claimed he slowed before he hit the gal. How does that change the leftie domestic terrorists from attacking him?

Danemora -> RE: Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 1:02:23 PM)
That may be true. I did only have one person smash out my driver's side window once while I was trying to drive away from an attempted carjacking. Pretty scary, but it was only one bat. And a little glass in the face builds character, right? There's just one thing though...I didnt ram my car into two other vehicles and a crowd of people at what looked like a pretty high rate of speed. Then sit there for a bit before jamming my car in reverse and driving at a high rate of speed backwards through the destruction I just caused either. Again...it was just one bat and one window though. Pussy shit compared to what young Mr. Fields (thats the driver's last name I hope) suffered through as he put in work on that crowd with his muscle car in his terror to flee I guess I must just be weird or something. Actually Im editing this to add that while our situations might have been similar in the most broadest of strokes [a car and some sort of tool of much less strength], I still do believe he has the right to a proper trial...not a sentence rendered in the court of public opinion. I am leaving what I wrote, but wanted to add this caveat because its not up to me to decide the driver's guilt or innocence. Especially since I know the proper kind of proof to judge that would be presented in court ultimately.

BoscoX -> RE: Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 1:04:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX Was it a bat or a crowbar Kinda hard to tell from that video what was going on, if he was mowing them down when he got his car hit or if his car was hit first. Either way mowing people down with a car is homicide, regardless of whether the alt left clowns were beating up his car or not. He proved that he had reverse gear, going forward into the crowd wasn't a legitimate option That was murder Good question, that thunk we heard was damn loud and it did not sound like just one, it sounded like more than one. We can see the car was more or less in the open at the time, it would not surprize me if the kid was scared shitless after his car was hit that hard. If the police told him that was the way he must go what choice did he have? There was crowd in either direction, and some people claimed he slowed before he hit the gal. How does that change the leftie domestic terrorists from attacking him? There's a lot we don't know. As others have posted, let's see what comes out at trial.

Nnanji -> RE: Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 1:19:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Danemora That may be true. I did only have one person smash out my driver's side window once while I was trying to drive away from an attempted carjacking. Pretty scary, but it was only one bat. And a little glass in the face builds character, right? There's just one thing though...I didnt ram my car into two other vehicles and a crowd of people at what looked like a pretty high rate of speed. Then sit there for a bit before jamming my car in reverse and driving at a high rate of speed backwards through the destruction I just caused either. Again...it was just one bat and one window though. Pussy shit compared to what young Mr. Fields (thats the driver's last name I hope) suffered through as he put in work on that crowd with his muscle car in his terror to flee I guess I must just be weird or something. Actually Im editing this to add that while our situations might have been similar in the most broadest of strokes, I still do believe he has the right to a proper trial...not a court of public opinion. I am leaving what I wrote, but wanted to add this caveat because its not up to me to decide the driver's guilt or innocence. Especially since I know the proper kind of proof to judge that would be presented in court ultimately. As I said earlier, I'll wait until the fact come out before I decide on comparisons to what Mr.Fields went through. While you were getting away from the car jacker, were you perhaps surrounded by hundreds of fighting protester?

Danemora -> RE: Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 1:22:18 PM)
No, but a bat to his face likely would have felt as equally bad as a bat to my face. Mine was in a crowded lot at a pretty huge country western nightclub after 2am closing. There were a lot of folks and cars in the lot. They didnt seem angry for the most part except for the fact that it was closing time. Does a couple of parking lot cockfights being staged by drunks against other drunks count as fighting angry protestors? They were admittedly on the front side of the lot and we as staff had to park in the way back 40 acres.

Nnanji -> RE: Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 1:31:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Danemora No, but a bat to his face likely would have felt as equally bad as a bat to my face. Mine was in a crowded lot at a pretty huge country western nightclub after 2am closing. There were a lot of folks and cars in the lot. They didnt seem angry for the most part except for the fact that it was closing time The other thing to keep in mind is how do we know how someone will react to any given stimulus. A lot of people panic. A lot of people get serious and deal with serious social situation. I think the law allows for the different sorts of reactions if they can be expressed convincingly in court some months later. Perhaps you have heroic reactions to extreme stress is why you didn't run over people and cars. This guy killed a woman. He'll have to explain why and convince a jury.

Danemora -> RE: Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 1:33:45 PM)
And Im not disagreeing with you. So Im not exactly sure where you are going with this. Its merely my opinions are offering and I did already express my thoughts on where justice should and not be determined.

Nnanji -> RE: Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 1:40:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Danemora And Im not disagreeing with you. So Im not exactly sure where you are going with this. I'm doing two things. First I'm wasting space on a thread I don't think is a reasonable thread to have now. Second, I'm responding to you in what I think is a reasonable way. Let's face it, now you know that Louisville Slugger makes metal bats.

Danemora -> RE: Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 1:47:46 PM)
I specified steel plated bats. Which was a tounge-in-cheek way of trying to sarcastically infer that bat companies are making some extra strong super powerful bat that could...say...blast through car metal like a hot knife through butter. Already knew metal ones existed for quite awhile now. Perhaps Ive clarified the confusion a bit

Nnanji -> RE: Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 1:56:21 PM)
Then, I guess there's still the wasting space thingy.

Real0ne -> RE: Charlottesville - will the 'real' domestic terrorists please stand up? (8/20/2017 2:33:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: Danemora And Im not disagreeing with you. So Im not exactly sure where you are going with this. I'm doing two things. First I'm wasting space on a thread I don't think is a reasonable thread to have now. Second, I'm responding to you in what I think is a reasonable way. Let's face it, now you know that Louisville Slugger makes metal bats. oh you wasted space in every other thread about it on the board, but when a thread that demonstrates that the alleged white supremacist may very well have been in fear of his life due to an attack by leftie domestic terrorists you only come out here to dismiss it out of hand and switch to wait for the facts when we can see and hear the fucking bat hit the car, which in any court is a fact. Sounds like you may be tripping taking a ride up da-nile doesnt it. [8\|]

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