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RE: Alright, first it was a fence, then Trump's wall... - 8/27/2017 12:28:18 PM   
Nnanji


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Sorry, Bracero. While my Spanish isn't non-existent, it's not great either.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracero_program

I think if we were serious most of the problems with the old program could be fixed. Especially now that the United Farm Workers Union is heavily looking after illigals.

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RE: Alright, first it was a fence, then Trump's wall... - 8/27/2017 12:33:01 PM   
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One of the many things that "fires" me up, is we harass 80 year old women in airports that are American born citizens,
while we have NO idea who is in this country.

Anyone that wants to get into this country, pretty much CAN get into this country.
Most of our security measures are a joke.

Tunnel into US/23 Chinese nationals/7 Mexicans

Call me crazy, I have been saying for YEARS, Mexican illegal immigrants are the least of our worries.
Anyone, that wants in, can get in.
ANYONE

PEACE

And the Israilis handle that we'll also. It's usually because of extremely good profiling. The reason 80-year old women get hassled is to prove TSA isn't profiling.

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RE: Alright, first it was a fence, then Trump's wall... - 8/27/2017 12:39:19 PM   
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And the Israilis handle that we'll also. It's usually because of extremely good profiling. The reason 80-year old women get hassled is to prove TSA isn't profiling.


The TSA not profiling is literally insane

Treating 80-year-old American women the same as military aged bearded middle eastern men, you know we are fucked. Can't even admit what the problem is, so how can we possibly defeat it



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RE: Alright, first it was a fence, then Trump's wall... - 8/27/2017 2:06:26 PM   
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It was stupid when it was proposed, it was stupid when Trump jumped on it, it's stupid now.

Simply a worthless waste of money. All to attempt to prove he's tough.

He's all hat and no cattle.

It works well in other places. It's not stupid.

It worked in Berlin..mostly. But, where is there on 2000 mile wall on this planet that works to keep people out?

The Berlin wall was rather more heavily manned than your immigration services could manage along the border with Texas, I suspect.

kind of my point.
Maybe there's a multi-thousand Km wall somewhere that works but, if there is, I'm unaware of it and wish enlightenment.

Works fine. Not thousands of Km but proportional.

https://icma.org/en/icma/career_network/job_seekers/browse_jobs

May be my puter. I get a bad link

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RE: Alright, first it was a fence, then Trump's wall... - 8/27/2017 2:21:28 PM   
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It was stupid when it was proposed, it was stupid when Trump jumped on it, it's stupid now.

Simply a worthless waste of money. All to attempt to prove he's tough.

He's all hat and no cattle.

I mean as long as we are talking walls and it was crazy joke pulled on Trump supporters to begin with, why not as Johnny would say, build a 'big fucking wall' say...between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

I mean as long as we are going to build walls, let's put it in the right place.

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RE: Alright, first it was a fence, then Trump's wall... - 8/27/2017 3:23:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: onething


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

It was stupid when it was proposed, it was stupid when Trump jumped on it, it's stupid now.

Simply a worthless waste of money. All to attempt to prove he's tough.

He's all hat and no cattle.

It works well in other places. It's not stupid.

It worked in Berlin..mostly. But, where is there on 2000 mile wall on this planet that works to keep people out?

The Berlin wall was rather more heavily manned than your immigration services could manage along the border with Texas, I suspect.

kind of my point.
Maybe there's a multi-thousand Km wall somewhere that works but, if there is, I'm unaware of it and wish enlightenment.

Works fine. Not thousands of Km but proportional.

https://icma.org/en/icma/career_network/job_seekers/browse_jobs


I don't know what the other was.m try this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_West_Bank_barrier

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RE: Alright, first it was a fence, then Trump's wall... - 8/27/2017 3:30:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

It was stupid when it was proposed, it was stupid when Trump jumped on it, it's stupid now.

Simply a worthless waste of money. All to attempt to prove he's tough.

He's all hat and no cattle.

I mean as long as we are talking walls and it was crazy joke pulled on Trump supporters to begin with, why not as Johnny would say, build a 'big fucking wall' say...between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

I mean as long as we are going to build walls, let's put it in the right place.

God beat you to it with the Hindu Kush.

Or

Why don't we send you to take care of that. Maybe if you did some physical labor you'd be too tired to bug us here with wild conspiracies and negative outlooks.

Or

Oh look who showed up when Reagan was mentioned. Just like Pavlov ringing a bell.

You pick.

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RE: Alright, first it was a fence, then Trump's wall... - 8/28/2017 12:24:59 AM   
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It was stupid when it was proposed, it was stupid when Trump jumped on it, it's stupid now.

Simply a worthless waste of money. All to attempt to prove he's tough.

He's all hat and no cattle.

It works well in other places. It's not stupid.

It worked in Berlin..mostly. But, where is there a 2000 mile wall on this planet that works to keep people out?


I'm pretty sure it worked in Berlin because of the armed guards and various death traps.


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RE: Alright, first it was a fence, then Trump's wall... - 8/28/2017 1:16:59 AM   
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And even then people got over, under or through it

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RE: Alright, first it was a fence, then Trump's wall... - 8/28/2017 1:49:21 AM   
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~FRing it~

I believe I read somewhere that drug smugglers would float surfboards stacked with drugs around the end of the wall at the Pacific Ocean as well. Might have been a book from a former SD gang member who became an assasin with AFO turned witness or perhaps a documentary...cant remember 100% for sure. Cant imagine surfing a human into the US would be difficult either.

Trump is threatening a Government shutdown in October if he doesnt get wall financing, right? Can you imagine trying to secure funding to fence out further into the oceans on either side of the US?

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RE: Alright, first it was a fence, then Trump's wall... - 8/28/2017 10:21:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

It was stupid when it was proposed, it was stupid when Trump jumped on it, it's stupid now.

Simply a worthless waste of money. All to attempt to prove he's tough.

He's all hat and no cattle.

I mean as long as we are talking walls and it was crazy joke pulled on Trump supporters to begin with, why not as Johnny would say, build a 'big fucking wall' say...between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

I mean as long as we are going to build walls, let's put it in the right place.

God beat you to it with the Hindu Kush.

Or

Why don't we send you to take care of that. Maybe if you did some physical labor you'd be too tired to bug us here with wild conspiracies and negative outlooks.

Or

Oh look who showed up when Reagan was mentioned. Just like Pavlov ringing a bell.

You pick.

Well I did my time and no, I am going to be here and give you shit and to point out when...you are full of it.

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RE: Alright, first it was a fence, then Trump's wall... - 8/28/2017 10:26:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

It was stupid when it was proposed, it was stupid when Trump jumped on it, it's stupid now.

Simply a worthless waste of money. All to attempt to prove he's tough.

He's all hat and no cattle.

It works well in other places. It's not stupid.

It worked in Berlin..mostly. But, where is there a 2000 mile wall on this planet that works to keep people out?


I'm pretty sure it worked in Berlin because of the armed guards and various death traps.



It was a wall right through a city with numerous places to put guard posts and snipers. It is in no way any kind of comparison.

Pretty short too by comparison.

Once the wall was completed, it took a zigzag path of 96 miles of which only 27 miles divided Eastern Berlin from the west, the rest of the barriers was separating Western Berlin from the rural areas of Eastern Germany.

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RE: Alright, first it was a fence, then Trump's wall... - 8/28/2017 10:29:40 AM   
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And even then people got over, under or through it


According to my research, at least 138 people died trying to cross the border. While some did make it safely across, it is unclear how many people exactly reached the western part.

Some estimates claim that 5,000 East Germans reached West Berlin via the Wall. (in 30 years)

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