RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY

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WhoreMods -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/1/2017 9:33:52 AM)
You may well be right about the dates (which is the most important point here), but the most noted Hotchkiss model did not have a single barrel. They were much more noted for a rotary cannon than for their other models.

BamaD -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/1/2017 9:41:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods You may well be right about the dates (which is the most important point here), but the most noted Hotchkiss model did not have a single barrel. They were much more noted for a rotary cannon than for their other models. Most were single barrel but the 1914 model revolving "machine gun " was clearly a copy of the Gatling. Every picture I found of a Hotchkiss was single barrel.

WhoreMods -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/1/2017 10:10:23 AM)
Is that a regional thing with Google? I've found a shitload of them. Here's a couple from the front page of a search: [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AIEmJGfmR1c/VT5WTYpkFAI/AAAAAAAAvTo/Uac2TMa3T8M/s1600/MG-1-033-27.jpg[/img] [img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/MHE8.jpg/200px-MHE8.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.victorianshipmodels.com/antitorpedoboatguns/Hotchkiss/Resources/hotchkiss37onped.jpeg[/img] Now the images from civil war re-enactments were all single barrelled cannon...

Hillwilliam -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/1/2017 10:17:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou google search and u'll find out a large percentage of Black market guns are stolen from home gun owners..... most home gun owners are white.... Blaming the victim of a theft makes as much sense as blaming the victim of a rape. The latter is utterly abominable.

tamaka -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/1/2017 10:55:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou google search and u'll find out a large percentage of Black market guns are stolen from home gun owners..... most home gun owners are white.... Blaming the victim of a theft makes as much sense as blaming the victim of a rape. The latter is utterly abominable. The argument he is making is that white men shouldn't have rights because of black men.

itsSIRtou -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/1/2017 2:11:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou google search and u'll find out a large percentage of Black market guns are stolen from home gun owners..... most home gun owners are white.... Blaming the victim of a theft makes as much sense as blaming the victim of a rape. The latter is utterly abominable. The argument he is making is that white men shouldn't have rights because of black men. ah....no. I support RESPONSEABLE gun ownership. The founding fathers (u know, the guys u usually invoke to support this shit? ) of America knew the rights of gun ownership came with the RESPONSEABILITY of gun ownership. For as much as they get used to prop up this death march, why their example goes unheeded I just don't get. all my friends in rural Minnesota who are serious hunters and sport shooters practice RESPONSEABILITY, I don't see why anyone else cant. And to Me, (and to them.) its just plain lazy or u don't give a damn enough to not be responsible for ur weapons. that means if u buy a gun,...buy a lock, or a gun safe for it. There are plenty of compact hand gun safes for ur house, car, etc., ...where only the owner knows the combo and can get armed in seconds, dispatch an intruder, and be waiting for the cops to get there before the coffee gets cold. the fucked up shit of gun owners who have NRA stickers all over their house & car, leaving unsecured handguns under the car seat, bed pillow, and/or putting weapons in flimsy wood and glass gun cases and then are shocked when some druggie busts in when they aren't home, and takes everything including the matching ammo in the unlocked fiberboard cabinet underneath is just plain irresponsible and downright stupid. And in no time at all, somebody else's family is devastated to find out where that gun got used next before the ink is dry on the former gun owners insurance check. A gun safe where the dumbass thief has to damn near break his back to try to get it out the house and STILL cant get into the safe if they do is too damn easy to buy. Otherwise, after that The only winners are the gunmakers, gun lobby, and undertakers. are u one of those? I Don't think so. undertakers cant care the least...... white or Black ur money is green like the grass when they put u under it and don't care how u got there.

tamaka -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/1/2017 2:52:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou google search and u'll find out a large percentage of Black market guns are stolen from home gun owners..... most home gun owners are white.... Blaming the victim of a theft makes as much sense as blaming the victim of a rape. The latter is utterly abominable. The argument he is making is that white men shouldn't have rights because of black men. ah....no. I support RESPONSEABLE gun ownership. The founding fathers (u know, the guys u usually invoke to support this shit? ) of America knew the rights of gun ownership came with the RESPONSEABILITY of gun ownership. For as much as they get used to prop up this death march, why their example goes unheeded I just don't get. all my friends in rural Minnesota who are serious hunters and sport shooters practice RESPONSEABILITY, I don't see why anyone else cant. And to Me, (and to them.) its just plain lazy or u don't give a damn enough to not be responsible for ur weapons. that means if u buy a gun,...buy a lock, or a gun safe for it. There are plenty of compact hand gun safes for ur house, car, etc., ...where only the owner knows the combo and can get armed in seconds, dispatch an intruder, and be waiting for the cops to get there before the coffee gets cold. the fucked up shit of gun owners who have NRA stickers all over their house & car, leaving unsecured handguns under the car seat, bed pillow, and/or putting weapons in flimsy wood and glass gun cases and then are shocked when some druggie busts in when they aren't home, and takes everything including the matching ammo in the unlocked fiberboard cabinet underneath is just plain irresponsible and downright stupid. And in no time at all, somebody else's family is devastated to find out where that gun got used next before the ink is dry on the former gun owners insurance check. A gun safe where the dumbass thief has to damn near break his back to try to get it out the house and STILL cant get into the safe if they do is too damn easy to buy. Otherwise, after that The only winners are the gunmakers, gun lobby, and undertakers. are u one of those? I Don't think so. undertakers cant care the least...... white or Black ur money is green like the grass when they put u under it and don't care how u got there. Nothing you just said changed the idea you put forth that white men shouldn't have the right to own a gun because of black men.

StWrinklemeat -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/1/2017 2:58:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods You may well be right about the dates (which is the most important point here), but the most noted Hotchkiss model did not have a single barrel. They were much more noted for a rotary cannon than for their other models. Most were single barrel but the 1914 model revolving "machine gun " was clearly a copy of the Gatling. Every picture I found of a Hotchkiss was single barrel. In a way the Gatlin was horribly beautiful

WhoreMods -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/1/2017 3:17:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: StWrinklemeat quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods You may well be right about the dates (which is the most important point here), but the most noted Hotchkiss model did not have a single barrel. They were much more noted for a rotary cannon than for their other models. Most were single barrel but the 1914 model revolving "machine gun " was clearly a copy of the Gatling. Every picture I found of a Hotchkiss was single barrel. In a way the Gatlin was horribly beautiful It's a design classic, no question. I'm always puzzled that the steampunks are more obsessed with pocket watches and top hats than weapons that were cutting edge engineering during the nineteenth century.

itsSIRtou -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/1/2017 6:28:03 PM)
I cant help ur head is full of air....... what ur harping about is only in ur head..... I never said anybody shouldn't have guns.....that's ur fantasy. lets try this..... I do not care what race u are as a gun owner...period. Got it? what u are doing ur best to ignore is white men who are irresponsible gun owners are the reason THOSE guns wind up in Black neighborhoods.... period. white men and anybody else for that matter, who ARE responsible gun owners have My utmost respect..... also period. u? not so much.

tamaka -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/1/2017 6:44:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou I cant help ur head is full of air....... what ur harping about is only in ur head..... I never said anybody shouldn't have guns.....that's ur fantasy. lets try this..... I do not care what race u are as a gun owner...period. Got it? what u are doing ur best to ignore is white men who are irresponsible gun owners are the reason THOSE guns wind up in Black neighborhoods.... period. white men and anybody else for that matter, who ARE responsible gun owners have My utmost respect..... also period. u? not so much. I don't care if i have your respect or not. You are just digging yourself deeper and deeper. You see, we don't take away honest people's rights because of criminals. Your argument could be extended to say no one should have the right to drive a car because of drunk drivers.

Wayward5oul -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/1/2017 6:51:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou I cant help ur head is full of air....... what ur harping about is only in ur head..... I never said anybody shouldn't have guns.....that's ur fantasy. lets try this..... I do not care what race u are as a gun owner...period. Got it? what u are doing ur best to ignore is white men who are irresponsible gun owners are the reason THOSE guns wind up in Black neighborhoods.... period. white men and anybody else for that matter, who ARE responsible gun owners have My utmost respect..... also period. u? not so much. I don't care if i have your respect or not. You are just digging yourself deeper and deeper. You see, we don't take away honest people's rights because of criminals. Your argument could be extended to say no one should have the right to drive a car because of drunk drivers. But is he saying that gun rights should be limited because of this? I see where he is bitching about irresponsible owners (and I don't know if what he is saying is correct or not), but I don't see him saying that gun rights should be limited because of them

tweakabelle -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/2/2017 12:00:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka FR: Nnanji, i believe you have said that you served as a Department Head for a government agency. Surely you were not the 'Owner' of the government. My dad was the department head of a government agency as well. He also owned his own business. I've said what I've said in reasonable context of conversation. Tweak is never reasonable in conversation. She's usually just a spiteful immature girl. There is no sense in discussing her spite other than to point it out in the hope that one day she matures. Reverting to your paedophile trip again, as you invariably do when you run out of something useful or relevant to contribute (note: I didn't write 'intelligent contributions', as we are still awaiting an intelligent contribution from Nnanji) One of these days you will surprise us all by posting something an adult might write.

vincentML -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/2/2017 7:14:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka FR: Nnanji, i believe you have said that you served as a Department Head for a government agency. Surely you were not the 'Owner' of the government. My dad was the department head of a government agency as well. He also owned his own business. I've said what I've said in reasonable context of conversation. Tweak is never reasonable in conversation. She's usually just a spiteful immature girl. There is no sense in discussing her spite other than to point it out in the hope that one day she matures. Reverting to your paedophile trip again, as you invariably do when you run out of something useful or relevant to contribute (note: I didn't write 'intelligent contributions', as we are still awaiting an intelligent contribution from Nnanji) One of these days you will surprise us all by posting something an adult might write. Certainly, tweak does not need a defense from me. She has a long history on this forum of defending herself more than adequately. But, I have to say this: very few posters bring as much new knowledge, excellent reasoning, and superb writing skills than does our friend from downunder. She is an excellent educator. We can use more of that as opposed to the whiny personal attacks that are so repetitive and boring on this forum.

vincentML -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/2/2017 7:20:20 AM)
On the subject of the OP: South Africa was not a better place because whites were in the minority. This is where Moore’s comment breaks down. It is all about Power. That explains the current struggle over voting power for people of color. It’s pretty much like the black laws that followed reconstruction in 1880. You might say we are in a period of reconstruction after the 1964, 1965 civil rights revolution. People of color need to wake up and understand how meaningful and important the voting power is. I should have said we are in an era of post reconstruction, post civil rights, and ham-handed law and order ascendancy. That will lead to more rebellion I think.

Milesnmiles -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/2/2017 9:05:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou I cant help ur head is full of air....... what ur harping about is only in ur head..... I never said anybody shouldn't have guns.....that's ur fantasy. lets try this..... I do not care what race u are as a gun owner...period. Got it? what u are doing ur best to ignore is white men who are irresponsible gun owners are the reason THOSE guns wind up in Black neighborhoods.... period. white men and anybody else for that matter, who ARE responsible gun owners have My utmost respect..... also period. u? not so much. First, what is it about someone breaking into your house and stealing what you own makes you "irresponable"? Second, why do stolen "white men's" guns end up in "Black neighborhoods"?

WhoreMods -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/2/2017 9:08:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou I cant help ur head is full of air....... what ur harping about is only in ur head..... I never said anybody shouldn't have guns.....that's ur fantasy. lets try this..... I do not care what race u are as a gun owner...period. Got it? what u are doing ur best to ignore is white men who are irresponsible gun owners are the reason THOSE guns wind up in Black neighborhoods.... period. white men and anybody else for that matter, who ARE responsible gun owners have My utmost respect..... also period. u? not so much. First, what is it about someone breaking into your house and stealing what you own makes you "irresponable"? Second, why do stolen "white men's" guns end up in "Black neighborhoods"? Pprobably because the second amendment applies less to negroes than it does to white folk. Just look at the fuss the Police and the (then) head of the NRA threw about one of those rap chappies making a record about shooting bluebottles, or the issues that a few of the Panthers had with open carry in the '70s. Really, this the sort of situation that the NRA dreams about because the solution to the problem is more rather than less guns, dig?

tamaka -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/2/2017 11:16:00 AM)
Do you ever wonder if it was worth it to bring slaves over here in the first place? Just look at all the headaches it caused.

WhoreMods -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/2/2017 11:17:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka Do you ever wonder if it was worth it to bring slaves over here in the first place? Just look at all the headaches it caused. You got some rather good records out of it, at least.

Lucylastic -> RE: MICHAEL MOORE: AMERICA WILL BE A “BETTER COUNTRY” WHEN WHITES ARE A MINORITY (9/2/2017 11:33:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka Do you ever wonder if it was worth it to bring slaves over here in the first place? Just look at all the headaches it caused. what are you going to do about it? continually blame them??? its a bit late to be thinking about it now isnt it? Maybe treat "them" as human beings with the same rights as you have.

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