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Given that the mod(s) is/are clearly too busy to remove pedophiles trolling for kids to abuse/nigerian scam artists/other from the front page or investigate their ticket list, are they just doing this to posters rather than banning them as an avoidance tactic?
It kind of surprises me that none of the long term posters have commented on this, directly.
Forum moderation/temporary removal of posting privileges has been a part of this site since I got here in 2007, and as far as I know has always been an option for the staff to use.
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I'd be interested to hear from whoever they have modding this shambles as to why they think this approach is a good idea, and when the last time they actually approved an "awaiting approval" post so that people could read it: there's posts that have been waiting over a year in General Discussion, and frankly, if you can't be bothered vetting what posters under heavy manners say, you shouldn't be putting anybody on approval in the first place, should you?
This is an area where I think you and I will disagree. Chasing around 'approving' posts made by anyone moderated, in my opinion, should be so far down on the list of priorities that it's hardly worth mentioning. As far as I know, there isn't a part of the system that alerts Moderators to the bunch of posts that are being made by anybody that has temporarily lost their forum privileges, so they can jump right on it to see if the post should be approved or not. It doesn't work like the reporting system, where somebody specifically calls the attention of whatever a person is creating a ticket about so that a Moderator will (hopefully) review it. (I know that last bit hasn't been wonderful for quite some time, so I'll leave the comment at that.)
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And that's without even getting into the partisan slant some have perceived in the last crop of posters put on approval, and the fact that absolutely fuck all has been done about the poster among said happy party who's gone through three sock puppets since he was so notbannedatall. (I can't name him, of course, because that would be breaking the TOS.)
I'm going to split this part in half and then address another comment in a different quote.
I'm going to ask you about this partisan slant that you reference. Can you honestly say you think so? Don't look at their politics and don't grade on the curve. Look at the content of the actual posts made by the individual(s) and ask yourself if they violated ToS/forum guidelines? Not everybody else is doing it, too. Not they were responding to a person who attacked first. Going just from what the (now) moderated person's posts contained, can you really say it was acceptable behavior?
The second part about the poster who is using sock puppets to circumvent moderation. First, I have to wonder if anybody is reporting it or not. I get that pretty much everybody has lost faith in reporting things around here because there's not much being addressed. However, this also puts as back to 'Mods won't necessarily see it if no tickets have been created.' When 'she who shall not be named' converted this section to so-called 'lesser moderation,' she basically set it up so that Mods wouldn't have to do much in this section, until something was so far over the top that it met whatever minimal requirement she had.
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The TOS were whatever mod 3 said they were: that's why people got banned for talking back to her in pms.
Still, if the "rules" have now changed (again): proudmisogynist is obviously respectmen, posting under a sockpuppet account while his main persona is under approval. There's definitely something in the TOS about doing that, isn't there?
It's in there several times, actually. The one that's the most obvious is this:
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7.2.5. Circumvent any encryption or other security tools used anywhere on the Website (including the theft of user names and passwords or using another person's user name and password in order to gain access to a restricted area of the Website);
Meaning, if a person has been restricted from posting on the forums, they are circumventing moderation by creating a new screen name (or using an old one that had been created prior) to override any blocks that have been put on by Bayshore Software, Inc. or their agents (aka Admin).
(There's also quote:
12.4. You agree that if Your account is terminated by Us, You will not attempt to re-register as a member of the Website without prior written consent from Us. that is specifically about any person who has been banned from the site.)
In addition to this, there used to be certain form letters that Admins/Mods would send when any particular poster was violating ToS/forum guidelines that would include information regarding actions that would be or had been taken regarding their posting privileges. For lack of better terms, call them the 'last warning' and 'privileges removed' communications from the Admin/Mods. (Pretty much, we long term posters referred to them as "Gold Mail.") In both, there were parts included about circumventing moderation and that penalties would increase if such tactics were used. I don't know if they are still in use, but they were as far back as Mod 11, so it would surprise me if any long term poster weren't aware of them or knew the information hadn't been conveyed via them.
Yes, there definitely was a period there where people were moderated on the forums for things that had nothing to do with forum posts, inappropriate use of their account, or anything similar. I'm not going to say that I'm in agreement that such is the situation with those who are currently moderated. At least two have so many violations of forum guidelines for the 'no personal attacks' rule in other sections that I wouldn't even know where to begin counting. That's before we get into areas like posting that other posters are 'trannies,' being dishonest about their gender, not posting topics to the General BDSM Discussion forum for topics not related to BDSM, and a bunch of other stuff that is listed as disallowed in several Administrative Announcements. (Doesn't matter if they were written or revised by a prior Admin. They are still there, so they really are the rules to abide by on whichever forum board.) I highly doubt that any of the folks who are currently moderated could honestly try to get over by saying they didn't engage in the behavior.
ETA - Out of curiosity, I checked. I hit the "report" button on several of the original posts for various threads under the sock puppet name. None had been previously reported.
< Message edited by LadyPact -- 8/30/2017 1:32:37 PM >
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