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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 9:22:00 AM   
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I keep forgetting that ur that fucking stupid.... simply google "lynching" brought up 6.7 million hits about the subject.



which has absolutely no bearing on any part of the conversation, and also shows you really don't know how internet search engines work.

she's clearly asking about that specific claim you made, not lynching in general.

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but start with: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States

and work ur way to enlightenment. while there are a few white men shown lynched, the predominate victims were Black.... and pay attention to WHY they got lynched.

The political message—the promotion of white supremacy and black powerlessness—was an important element of the ritual, with lynchings photographed and published as postcards which were popular souvenirs in the U.S.[1][2] As well as being hanged, victims were sometimes burned alive and tortured, with body parts removed and kept as souvenirs.[3]

now please wise the fuck up.


you claimed men had their genitals cut off and stuffed in their mouth.

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and during said lynching cut the males cock and balls off and stuff them into the lynched person mouth


tamaka asked you for evidence of that occurring.

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Who did that? Give me a name and date when it occurred.


your Wikipedia post does not definitively support your claim and in the midst of that, you call someone else "fucking stupid" and tell them to "wise up??"

now, see if you can accept that critique of your thinking without resorting to my being a raaaaaaaaaacist.



nah, ur just a jerk who needs shit spelled out..... and ur tired ass is old enough to know better butt of course,

.......Start with: American Nightmare: The History of Jim Crow - By Jerrold M. Packard PAGE 130

https://books.google.com/books?id=5jybEogdGksC&pg=PA129&lpg=PA129&dq=lynching,+genital+removal&source=bl&ots=64KEERRN53&sig=_81i2TZyEvQf56vcJFQjKoWNxhQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjC6duhgJzWAhXl7IMKHVetDxcQ6AEIUzAH#v=onepage&q=lynching%2C%20genital%20removal&f=false




http://bowshrine.com/lynching-in-america/ 11. The lynching of Lawrence W. Nelson, May 25, 1911 in Okemah, Oklahoma.

http://okgazette.com/2011/05/24/picture-of-horror/ maybe u like children lynched better.

"Jim Crow laws were enforced to keep blacks in their place, according to the
Final Report of the Oklahoma Commission to Study the Tulsa Race Riot of 1921.

“When Laura Nelson was lynched years earlier in Okemah, it was not to punish her by
death,” the report stated. “It was to terrify the living. Why else would
the lynchers have taken (and printed and copied and posted and
distributed) that photograph of her hanging from the bridge, her little
boy dangling beside her?” A century later, the image is headed for
permanent exhibition at the National Center for Civil & Human Rights
in Atlanta, Allen said. ""

or maybe u might find this better : https://www.theclio.com/web/entry?id=2049

http://www.nathanielturner.com/lynchingclaudeneal.htm one account of the lynching of Claude Neal "The 45th Mob Victim Since FDR Entered the White House"

In Part: "Neal was tortured for ten or twelve hours. The original mob that took Neal from jail directed "all of the niceties of a twentieth century lynching . . . inflicted upon Neal." The word was passed all over Northeastern Florida and southeastern Alabama that there was to be a "lynching party to which all white people are invited."

A member of the lynching party described the lynching in all of its ghastliness, down to the minutest detail:

After taking the nigger to the woods about four miles from Greenwood, they cut off his penis. He was made to eat it. They cut off his testicles and made him eat them and say he liked it. . . .
Then they sliced his sides and stomach with knives and every now and then somebody would cut off a finger or toe. Red hot irons were used on the nigger to burn him from top to bottom.

From time to time during the torture a rope was tied around Neal's neck and he was pulled up over a limb and held there until he almost choked to death. Then he was let down and the torture began all over again. After several hours of this unspeakable torture, they decided just to kill him.
Neal's body was tied to a rope on the rear of an automobile and dragged over the highway to the Cannidy home. Here a mob estimated to number somewhere between 3000 and 7000 people from eleven southern states was excitedly waiting his arrival. When the car which was dragging Neal's body came in front of the Cannidy home, a man who was riding the rear bumper cut the rope.
A woman came out of the Cannidy house and drove a butcher knife into his heart. Then the crowd came by and some kicked him and some drove their cars over him.
Men, women, and children were numbered in the vast throng that came to witness the lynching. It is reported from reliable sources that the little children, some of them mere tots, who lived in the Greenwood neighborhood, waited with sharpened sticks for the return of Neal's body and that when it rolled in the dust on the road that awful night these little children drove their weapons deep into the flesh of the dead man.
The body, which by this time was horribly mutilated, was taken to Marianna, a distance of ten or eleven miles, where it was hung to a tree on the northeast corner of the courthouse square. Pictures were taken of the mutilated form and hundreds of photographs were sold for fifty cents each. Scores of citizens viewed the body as it hung in the square. The body was perfectly nude until the early morning when someone had the decency to hang a burlap sack over the middle of the body. The body was cut down about eight-thirty Saturday morning, October 27, 1934.
Fingers and toes from Neal's body have been exhibited as souvenirs in Marianna where one man offered to divide the finger which he had with a friend as "a special favor." Another man has one of the fingers preserved in alcohol.


is that enough of a description for ether of u? if not,.... one more.

https://www.emaze.com/@AFITIWRR (Check out the list of reference material.... )






Those were Democrats, btw.

Republicans fought them all the way

Now Democrats are once again wearing masks and doing vigilante violence, back to their old ways

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 9:23:42 AM   
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No, it is not a legitimate point at all. But you have not made a single legitimate point in this entire thread.


Yes it is a legitimate point. If you want to talk about this thing called "white privilege", i as a white woman, want an explanation of why black men could vote and white women couldn't vote.


Because it wasn't just white women who couldn't vote, it was all women.
They weren't excluded from voting because they were white women, but because they were women, period.
So it was a gender issue, not a race issue.

Comparing white women to black men isn't a fair comparison if you want to make a point about race-- you would have to compare white women to black women.



No... follow along. White privilege means whites have privileges that blacks don't have. If i was a racist, i would not be giving privileges to any black person that a white person didn't have. If i thought that blacks were ____ (fill in the blank with any negative idea that you want), then, if i were a white man, i wouldn't want that 'nigger' to be able to vote and have other such powerful privileges that my white wife/mother/daughter/sister didn't have.


Actually, it'd be because they were black, rather than anything to do with your wife/mother/daughter/sister lacking rights that some nigger isn't entitled to. White supremacists, I've noticed, are rarely big on women's lib. If they were, you'd probably see more white chicks in the armed camps and less with those queen of spades tattoos somewhere visible and a black cock in their mouth.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 9:31:56 AM   
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No... follow along. White privilege means whites have privileges that blacks don't have. If i was a racist, i would not be giving privileges to any black person that a white person didn't have. If i thought that blacks were ____ (fill in the blank with any negative idea that you want), then, if i were a white man, i wouldn't want that 'nigger' to be able to vote and have other such powerful privileges that my white wife/mother/daughter/sister didn't have.


Undoing a racist law does not automatically undo a sexist law.
Racism and sexism are not the same thing.

It doesn't matter what you would do 'if' you were a racist, you don't have any power over events in the late 19th/early 20th century and you didn't change the law.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 9:36:21 AM   
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Holy fuck I guess that everything is still exactly the same as it was in the 1920s!!!
You're a genius.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 9:37:26 AM   
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No... follow along. White privilege means whites have privileges that blacks don't have. If i was a racist, i would not be giving privileges to any black person that a white person didn't have. If i thought that blacks were ____ (fill in the blank with any negative idea that you want), then, if i were a white man, i wouldn't want that 'nigger' to be able to vote and have other such powerful privileges that my white wife/mother/daughter/sister didn't have.


Undoing a racist law does not automatically undo a sexist law.
Racism and sexism are not the same thing.

It doesn't matter what you would do 'if' you were a racist, you don't have any power over events in the late 19th/early 20th century and you didn't change the law.



I love how you are implying that women are irrelevant as 'people' when discussing racism and 'white privilege'.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 9:44:22 AM   
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No... follow along. White privilege means whites have privileges that blacks don't have. If i was a racist, i would not be giving privileges to any black person that a white person didn't have. If i thought that blacks were ____ (fill in the blank with any negative idea that you want), then, if i were a white man, i wouldn't want that 'nigger' to be able to vote and have other such powerful privileges that my white wife/mother/daughter/sister didn't have.


Undoing a racist law does not automatically undo a sexist law.
Racism and sexism are not the same thing.

It doesn't matter what you would do 'if' you were a racist, you don't have any power over events in the late 19th/early 20th century and you didn't change the law.



I love how you are implying that women are irrelevant as 'people' when discussing racism and 'white privilege'.


I have a hard time believing that this simple distinction is so difficult for you to grasp.

Please explain how acknowledging that women suffered discrimination that is separate from the discrimination suffered by blacks means that I am implying that women are irrelevant.

So what... I'm not supposed to point out that there isn't just one gender among white people?
I'm supposed to pretend that white women had it just as easy as white men so you don't feel bad about making such a nonsensical point?



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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 9:47:09 AM   
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No you are supposed to acknowledge that white men thought more of black men than they thought of white women. And so their racism wasn't very deep.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 9:53:04 AM   
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No you are supposed to acknowledge that white men thought more of black men than they thought of white women. And so their racism wasn't very deep.


Well, I don't think it was a unanimous decision, but I guess that it is possible that for some white men at the time, their racism wasn't as deep as their sexism.
But I really don't think that racism and sexism are as simple as that.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 9:57:31 AM   
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No you are supposed to acknowledge that white men thought more of black men than they thought of white women. And so their racism wasn't very deep.


Well, I don't think it was a unanimous decision, but I guess that it is possible that for some white men at the time, their racism wasn't as deep as their sexism.
But I really don't think that racism and sexism are as simple as that.


Yes ... at the end of the day... it's that simple.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 10:31:56 AM   
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No you are supposed to acknowledge that white men thought more of black men than they thought of white women. And so their racism wasn't very deep.


Well, I don't think it was a unanimous decision, but I guess that it is possible that for some white men at the time, their racism wasn't as deep as their sexism.
But I really don't think that racism and sexism are as simple as that.


Yes ... at the end of the day... it's that simple.


No, it's really not.

I mean, I think you can assume that these men loved or believed they loved their wives, and yet still wouldn't support granting them what was granted to people they didn't even know and whom I doubt they loved or cared about or in many cases respected.

But really, there isn't much point to comparing racism to sexism or trying to guess which one was 'deeper'.
They both existed then, they both exist now, and if some people were or are more sexist than racist or vice versa, it doesn't in any way cancel one or the other out.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 10:37:37 AM   
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It doesn't cancel it out, but if you spend a few moments thinking about it, it greatly alleviates the racist issue.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 10:41:43 AM   
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It doesn't cancel it out, but if you spend a few moments thinking about it, it greatly alleviates the racist issue.


That doesn't make any sense.
If I burn down your house, then burn down your neighbor's house, it doesn't mean you automatically get your house back.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 11:02:17 AM   
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It doesn't cancel it out, but if you spend a few moments thinking about it, it greatly alleviates the racist issue.


That doesn't make any sense.
If I burn down your house, then burn down your neighbor's house, it doesn't mean you automatically get your house back.



Look, when they gave black men the right to vote, race became irrelevant to the voting process but gender did not.
When race is irrelevant, racism is a non-issue.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 11:51:35 AM   
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Look, when they gave black men the right to vote, race became irrelevant to the voting process but gender did not.
When race is irrelevant, racism is a non-issue.


I haven't been following the entire discussion so I'm not sure what your overall point is.

You were complaining that white women didn't get to vote before black men-- so you weren't trying to say that because sexism was also a problem, racism wasn't so bad?
Are you saying that society oppresses women more than minorities?
That society puts race issues before gender issues?
That racism disappeared when black people were granted voting rights?

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 11:56:35 AM   
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All of the above.

Did you see all of the black men fighting to get women the right to vote as soon as they got it?



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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 12:36:12 PM   
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All of the above.

Did you see all of the black men fighting to get women the right to vote as soon as they got it?


You mean if a black man is sexist, then it's okay to be racist?
Or wait... all black men are sexist, therefore racism doesn't exist.

Can you honestly say that this makes sense to you?

You can be sexist and a victim of racism at the same time.
It's really not complicated.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 1:05:26 PM   
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All of the above.

Did you see all of the black men fighting to get women the right to vote as soon as they got it?


You mean if a black man is sexist, then it's okay to be racist?
Or wait... all black men are sexist, therefore racism doesn't exist.

Can you honestly say that this makes sense to you?

You can be sexist and a victim of racism at the same time.
It's really not complicated.


I'm saying that blacks like to whine about something that was made irrelevant long ago. They whine and make excuses for themselves. If they really want to see what a struggle is... try being a woman.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 1:36:34 PM   
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I've absolutely heard white people talk about how first nation people "stink".

Oh dear, now you are lying too.

I probably wouldn't be able to find it through the search feature now, but years ago, I made an appointment at the small-town AK beauty shop. I won't bore you terribly with too much detail. In the amount of time it took me to get a color and a cut, this woman who owned the shop had said more than enough to demonstrate that she was one of most racist and homophobic people I'd ever met in person.



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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 1:50:27 PM   
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I've absolutely heard white people talk about how first nation people "stink".

Oh dear, now you are lying too.

I probably wouldn't be able to find it through the search feature now, but years ago, I made an appointment at the small-town AK beauty shop. I won't bore you terribly with too much detail. In the amount of time it took me to get a color and a cut, this woman who owned the shop had said more than enough to demonstrate that she was one of most racist and homophobic people I'd ever met in person.




Heh. In a satirical magazine here called 'Private Eye' (which I - and I think WhoreMods - take regularly) there's a regular skit called 'A Taxi Driver Writes'. This is always just a list of the fictional taxi driver's opinions on the latest news - and it's always just a list of brainless bigoted drivel, which always ends with 'Know what I'd do with them? String 'em up!'.

Me though, I rarely use taxis. That sort of ear-bashing, though, I absolutely get from my barber every time I visit. I dread getting my hair cut.


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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/11/2017 3:44:30 PM   
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It doesn't cancel it out, but if you spend a few moments thinking about it, it greatly alleviates the racist issue.


if u actually spent a few moments thinking at all

u'd remember that no matter what freedoms the government or the courts gave to minorities the white mobs fought & killed minroites to prevent it being effective at the local level.

back then and now, racist white men don't care what freedoms anyone has except themselves.

they have and will do what ever it takes to stab u in the back to restrict or deny that same freedom to u while smiling to ur face, and run around in bed sheets to kill u if u resist or ignore them.

just because u have the right color pussy they like to grab, means nothing when it comes to who's the power in the household or the neighborhood.

there's no such thing as "alleviates the racist issue" because the only way to defeat racism, is for everyone to have the exact same opportunity to be Americans without fear.





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