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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 7:58:58 AM   
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I'm saying that blacks like to whine about something that was made irrelevant long ago. They whine and make excuses for themselves. If they really want to see what a struggle is... try being a woman.


Giving a minority group voting rights doesn't remove all prejudices from society.
Especially since there are no candidates willing to take an active interest in their issues.

The only way to make racism (and sexism) irrelevant is to have a perfectly egalitarian society.
This is why the right downplays racism and sexism while overtly practicing it... because they are opposed to egalitarianism.


What do you mean by 'perfectly egalitarian society'. Please be specific.


He means socialism where the government is powerful enough that it can force you to think and act properly. It's never worked. Just look at Venezuela now. The egalitarian society is eating the zoo animals because there is no food. But...at least they are all equally starving...well except the socialist elites.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 8:43:00 AM   
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He means socialism where the government is powerful enough that it can force you to think and act properly. It's never worked. Just look at Venezuela now. The egalitarian society is eating the zoo animals because there is no food. But...at least they are all equally starving...well except the socialist elites.


Obviously your RWNJ echo chamber is going to scapegoat socialism for Venezuela's issues, but the real problems were actually a combination of protectionism, cronyism and economic warfare by global capitalists.
It is probably pointless even attempting to discuss this with you, but these things are far more complex than your 'capitalism good, socialism bad' mantra might suggest, and it's really sad how you've latched onto the word 'Venezuela' as if mindlessly uttering it smashes everyone who falls left of Ted Cruz to bits.

Regardless, I was merely explaining that racism cannot totally disappear unless society is perfectly egalitarian... I wasn't trying to start a conversation about socialism. I don't think it would even be worthwhile discussing socialism with you, Nancy-boy, because you'd just say 'but Venezuela' over and over.

But Hillary.
But Obama.
But Venezuela.

That's 60% of all RWNJ talking points already.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 8:46:01 AM   
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He means socialism where the government is powerful enough that it can force you to think and act properly. It's never worked. Just look at Venezuela now. The egalitarian society is eating the zoo animals because there is no food. But...at least they are all equally starving...well except the socialist elites.


Obviously your RWNJ echo chamber is going to scapegoat socialism for Venezuela's issues, but the real problems were actually a combination of protectionism, cronyism and economic warfare by global capitalists.
It is probably pointless even attempting to discuss this with you, but these things are far more complex than your 'capitalism good, socialism bad' mantra might suggest, and it's really sad how you've latched onto the word 'Venezuela' as if mindlessly uttering it smashes everyone who falls left of Ted Cruz to bits.

Regardless, I was merely explaining that racism cannot totally disappear unless society is perfectly egalitarian... I wasn't trying to start a conversation about socialism. I don't think it would even be worthwhile discussing socialism with you, Nancy-boy, because you'd just say 'but Venezuela' over and over.

But Hillary.
But Obama.
But Venezuela.

That's 60% of all RWNJ talking points already.

Lol, you're so smart.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 8:57:05 AM   
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Lol, you're so smart.


Oh hey why don't you move to Bangladesh?
They have capitalism there, so it must mean capitalism is a failure.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 9:01:38 AM   
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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 9:05:46 AM   
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You realize that even in a perfect world like that, people would not come out equal to each other.


It isn't about who wins the race, it's about making sure everyone has the same starting line.



Let's talk about living conditions. How would you make sure everyone has the exact same living conditions?

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 9:15:17 AM   
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no, im simply a critical thinker who notices when someone says something, doesn't provide support for it, and when is asked for the support, gets high and mighty calling someone names/unjustly criticizing (like you also did in the post im responding to) and STILL didnt provide support.

you could have, should have posted your last bit of information the first time it was asked for. you could have, should have replied humbly, or at least plainly when you got called out on it. that you did neither says something about both your ability to think and your character.

a grade school kid would be able to see that. soooo....



critical thinker My very brown ass.

ur like the other right-wingers on here who hope one doesn't have the information or time to waste, to support an obvious claim. she's not ether.

its just ur strategy to try to win a point in a thread. We ALL know y'all do it.... a lot. its really not even a decent debate tool....

sometimes its so glaringly out there, (like this time) that any intelligent person and/or person of above high school education, its nothing BUT stupid. but fish for that hope u still do anyway.

that being said....tell Me oh great "critical thinker"

....what body parts WOULD a man bent on totally dehumanizing another man cut off? hmmm?? how many choices are there?

...what would incite that dehumanization to the maximum effect out in the middle of the woods?? hmmm?

.....what would warn women of ur own race not to be sexual with those males ur dehumanizing?? Hmmm??



history decades ago showed racist dumb back country hicks figured out the answers to those questions...... why was that so difficult for y'all??

what the fuck "support" is needed for "with body parts removed"??

what the fuck "support" is needed for...."they cut off his penis. He was made to eat it. They cut off his testicles and made him eat them and say he liked it. . . ."


oh great "critical thinker" .....after "with body parts removed" How much simple logic or intelligence does it REALLY take to figure out the assholes (her word) did whatever the hell they wanted to with the victims body including cutting off his cock and balls and putting them wherever they felt like???








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What would the internet be like if we couldn't say trump is a moron?

The Republican party complains government doesnt work for people, and then makes darn sure it cannot.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 9:18:52 AM   
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Lol, you're so smart.


Oh hey why don't you move to Bangladesh?
They have capitalism there, so it must mean capitalism is a failure.

Somalia springs to mind as well: it's obviously a libertarian utopia because everybody ignores the government there.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 9:33:11 AM   
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Lol, you're so smart.


Oh hey why don't you move to Bangladesh?
They have capitalism there, so it must mean capitalism is a failure.

Somalia springs to mind as well: it's obviously a libertarian utopia because everybody ignores the government there.

Lol, Samalia is run by War Lords, which makes it tribal. But, you're assertion seems to be that socialism is just a little bit better than Somalia and I'll grant you that. At least in socialist states you get a puppet trial before they shoot you.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 9:40:12 AM   
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You realize that even in a perfect world like that, people would not come out equal to each other.


It isn't about who wins the race, it's about making sure everyone has the same starting line.



Let's talk about living conditions. How would you make sure everyone has the exact same living conditions?


I thought we were talking about how to end racism, not how to implement socialism in America.
I told you that you can't get rid of racism until everyone has a voice in how society operates.
I know that America is not going to turn socialist any time soon.

But because you asked-- one solution is to mix the poor, middle class and wealthy housing together to avoid both ghettoization and gated communities.
I'm not talking about egg cartons or whatever-- it's more about preventing alienation between classes, cultures and races through diversified communities.

Actually getting to know each other does a lot to dispel the prejudices that come from second-hand accounts and ignorance/xenophobia.


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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 9:50:09 AM   
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You realize that even in a perfect world like that, people would not come out equal to each other.


It isn't about who wins the race, it's about making sure everyone has the same starting line.



Let's talk about living conditions. How would you make sure everyone has the exact same living conditions?


I thought we were talking about how to end racism, not how to implement socialism in America.
I told you that you can't get rid of racism until everyone has a voice in how society operates.
I know that America is not going to turn socialist any time soon.

But because you asked-- one solution is to mix the poor, middle class and wealthy housing together to avoid both ghettoization and gated communities.
I'm not talking about egg cartons or whatever-- it's more about preventing alienation between classes, cultures and races through diversified communities.

Actually getting to know each other does a lot to dispel the prejudices that come from second-hand accounts and ignorance/xenophobia.



Lol, the socialist ideal of mixing neighborhoods is another failed socialist ideal. It was tried here for decades and ended up making ghettos out of middle class neighborhoods. In fact, that's pretty much why gated communities began to spring up, to get away from such idiocy. Which points to the real problem with socialism, making the government powerful enough to inflict idiocy on everyone in order to implement control and proper thought will never work.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 10:04:10 AM   
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I'm sure you think the problem is all the minorities bringing in their drugs and crime, right?

Bring back segregation! Drinking fountains for every race!

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 10:12:20 AM   
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Oh look, it's yet another totally shallow criticism by Nancy-boy.
I'm sure you think the problem is all the minorities bringing in their drugs and crime, right?

Bring back segregation! Drinking fountains for every race!

Oh Mumsey wouldn't be happy with you. Reading comprehension is important. How is a nation-wide failed attempt at what you propose a shallow observation? Where did I mention minorities? Why can't you address the problems already discovered with your scheme. It's a sham to give government control and it didn't work. In fact it created those things you abhor such as people being able to choose where they live.

But, you're so smart. I'm sure you're correct and just like socialism, it just hasn't been done right yet.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 10:15:28 AM   
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Lol, you're so smart.


Oh hey why don't you move to Bangladesh?
They have capitalism there, so it must mean capitalism is a failure.

Somalia springs to mind as well: it's obviously a libertarian utopia because everybody ignores the government there.

Lol, Samalia is run by War Lords, which makes it tribal. But, you're assertion seems to be that socialism is just a little bit better than Somalia and I'll grant you that. At least in socialist states you get a puppet trial before they shoot you.

My assertion is more that the people who whine about socialism on here would rather live under libertariansfeudal warlords, but I suppose you're far too smart to recognise that.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 10:21:43 AM   
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Lol, you're so smart.


Oh hey why don't you move to Bangladesh?
They have capitalism there, so it must mean capitalism is a failure.

Somalia springs to mind as well: it's obviously a libertarian utopia because everybody ignores the government there.

Lol, Samalia is run by War Lords, which makes it tribal. But, you're assertion seems to be that socialism is just a little bit better than Somalia and I'll grant you that. At least in socialist states you get a puppet trial before they shoot you.

My assertion is more that the people who whine about socialism on here would rather live under libertariansfeudal warlords, but I suppose you're far too smart to recognise that.

No, you made no assertion. What you do is criticize people, like this stupid criticism, when they assume you make a statement other than what you explicitly say and now you're saying you have an underlying assertion when your stupidity hangs out.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 10:26:56 AM   
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Lol, you're so smart.


Oh hey why don't you move to Bangladesh?
They have capitalism there, so it must mean capitalism is a failure.

Somalia springs to mind as well: it's obviously a libertarian utopia because everybody ignores the government there.

Lol, Samalia is run by War Lords, which makes it tribal. But, you're assertion seems to be that socialism is just a little bit better than Somalia and I'll grant you that. At least in socialist states you get a puppet trial before they shoot you.

My assertion is more that the people who whine about socialism on here would rather live under libertariansfeudal warlords, but I suppose you're far too smart to recognise that.

No, you made no assertion. What you do is criticize people, like this stupid criticism, when they assume you make a statement other than what you explicitly say and now you're saying you have an underlying assertion when your stupidity hangs out.

You're so smart.
(Or something.)

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 10:28:00 AM   
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The idea that gated communities are the result of mixed housing is preposterous. Gated communities become popular when people started buying into the idea that their lives are constantly in danger and that they can live in a safe, secure space where nothing bad ever happens. It's the same insanity that drove everyone to believe they need to own a gun because someone out there is out to get them, the police are ineffective, and any day now Obama is going to send the army in to collect their guns.

You look at some mixed communities that 'failed' and you don't bother to ask why-- you just say 'socialism' and then you stop 'thinking' (assuming you actually put any thought whatsoever into it, which I doubt). You are willing to accept gated communities as 'natural' because you're too lazy to look at WHY they failed.

So why did the communities fail?
And while we're at it, how exactly did you reach the conclusion that America/capitalism is currently 'succeeding'?

You just assume the problem was 'government control' (what does that even mean?), and instead of asking yourself why it failed there but most certainly succeeds in social democracies in Europe, you just say 'because socialism is bad'. Maybe people started moving away because they just couldn't handle dealing with people who are different-- so is that the government's fault or the people's fault? The problem obviously wasn't that the poor people were priced out of their neighborhoods by expensive 'rich people' goods if they're the ones who took over... so why did all the wealthy or middle class people leave?

This is how we get to Trump-- it doesn't matter if something is right or wrong, it just matters that you personally are allowed to do what you want to do, not feel guilty about anything, not ask yourself if you're wrong about anything, not try to make anything better... until finally you rally behind a fascist because he tells you it's okay to stop thinking and hate and fear people who are different from you.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 11:05:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Blah blah blah, you're butt hurt because your loonicy was pointed out. I get it.

But, you're so smart.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 11:12:19 AM   
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Blah blah blah, you're butt hurt because your loonicy was pointed out. I get it.

But, you're so smart.


'Loonicy'.

All I had to go on was some story about mixed communities failing that you didn't even back up in any way.
How exactly am I supposed to discuss something with absolutely no frame of reference whatsoever?
Was it even real?

This isn't even the first time you've done this, and explains why almost every exchange we have is nothing but insults.
Being unable to actually have a discussion is one thing, but your insults are so weird and boring... you can't even provide me with a good laugh.

I am getting absolutely nothing out of any of this.

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RE: "White Privilege DOESN'T Exist!!" Tucker ... - 9/12/2017 11:16:33 AM   
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'Loonicy'.

I think those are the little layered licorice sweeties that hardly taste of licorice at all? the ones that look pink or orange and everybody leaves at the bottom of the bag...

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