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BeautifulNotion -> RE: Jeff Bezos Is Price Gouging Hurricane Victims (9/6/2017 3:18:07 PM)

Woof! Woof!

Curious you are terrified of that one?




Edwird -> RE: Jeff Bezos Is Price Gouging Hurricane Victims (9/6/2017 4:21:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Even so, the biggest socialist propagandist in the land charging hurricane victims $25 for a bottle of water will always make for good political discussion

Again: show your working that a libertarian robber baron who pays no taxes is a socialist.


You're talking to someone who proclaims that Hitler was a leftist.

So that's where that is.




Edwird -> RE: Jeff Bezos Is Price Gouging Hurricane Victims (9/6/2017 4:53:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
As always, you can never back up your mad howling with credible links (you must be a leftist)


Which "credible links" being such as in your case and in your estimation those who, like yourself, pour lighter fluid on their heads and take a torch to it as prologue to conveyance of their condign and sober wisdom.




BeautifulNotion -> RE: Jeff Bezos Is Price Gouging Hurricane Victims (9/6/2017 5:06:21 PM)

You seem like someone we can all trust. Are you going to ban me for that or will you need your lover sanity boscox and his 30 socks permission first.

Do not cross paths with me ever again on here. If I suddenly vanish you will know why dear readers of non abhorrence.




bounty44 -> RE: Jeff Bezos Is Price Gouging Hurricane Victims (9/6/2017 5:07:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BeautifulNotion

Woof! Woof!

Curious you are terrified of that one?


curious if you are wickedsdesire on medication?




Edwird -> RE: Jeff Bezos Is Price Gouging Hurricane Victims (9/6/2017 5:18:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bounty44
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is upset about "price gouging" during hurricane Harvey. Some stores raised prices to $99 for a case of bottled water -- $5 for a gallon of gas. "These are things you can't do in Texas," he says. "There are significant penalties if you price gouge in a crisis like this."

There sure are: $20,000 per "gouge" -- $200,000 if the "victim" is a senior citizen.

Texas, a state that I thought understood capitalism, punishes people who practice it.

Prices should rise during emergencies. Price changes save lives. That's because prices aren't just money -- they are information.

Price changes tell suppliers what their customers want most, maybe chainsaws more than blankets, water more than flashlights.

"(Q)uit your witch hunt," economist Don Boudreaux wrote Paxton. "Government intervention is often justified as a means of correcting 'market failure.' But by enforcing prohibitions on 'price gouging' your office causes market failure."

Boudreaux is right.

Suppose a disaster devastates your town, and your local store is not allowed to raise the price of bottled water. People rush to buy all the water they can get. The store sells out. Only the first customers get what they need.

The storeowner has no incentive to risk life and limb restocking his store. He wants to get to safety, too. So he closes his store.

But if the owner can charge $99 for a case of water, you will buy less water, and other customers get what they need. More importantly, entrepreneurs have an incentive to move heaven and earth to bring water to the disaster area. They soon do, and the price drops again.

That's economics -- supply and demand. It works pretty well.

Politicians often try to outlaw that. When Uber appeared and used "surge pricing" during busy times, my dumb mayor tried to ban Uber. The ban didn't stick, fortunately. Seeing people pay higher prices inspires more Uber drivers to leave home to offer people rides, and it causes customers to try other alternatives at busy times. When prices float, there are no shortages.

Since Texas' attorney general doesn't seem to understand that, Boudreaux tries to educate him:

"By forcibly keeping 'legal' prices lower than their actual market values, you not only encourage black markets ... you obstruct the information and incentives that are necessary both to encourage consumers to use those goods more sparingly and to encourage suppliers from around the world to rush to the devastated areas."

People will denounce capitalist greed after the next disaster, too, but there's nothing kind about pretending that bottled water and other valuable goods will be available if sellers are forbidden to raise prices when supplies are short.

I'd think reporters on CNBC, a business-oriented network, would understand economics, but they're as clueless as Texas' attorney general.

Not only did CNBC parrot his comments about "gouging," they then claimed, "Devastating storm may actually boost U.S. GDP."

Paul Krugman made the same foolish error after 9/11's terrorism. He wrote that the attack might "do some economic good."

Thinking that destruction helps an economy is one of the oldest economic myths. Frederic Bastiat called it "the broken window fallacy."

If I break your window, people watching will see economic benefits. You'll pay a glassmaker to repair the window and a janitor to clean up the mess. Job creation! Wealth creation! Break more windows!

CNBC and Krugman think that way because they can easily see the glassmaker and janitor. But they don't see the other things you might have done with your money. You might have repaired your car, bought a shirt, invested in a cancer cure. We'll never know -- because the money went to repair your window.

Storms don't help us. Other forms of destruction, from wars to earthquakes, are also bad. This should be obvious, but it isn't to politicians and leftist media. If Krugman were right, we might as well just go around smashing things all day long.

Critics of capitalism end up praising storms and denouncing people who react to storms by providing more goods. The critics have it backward./quote]

https://townhall.com/columnists/johnstossel/2017/08/30/price-gouging-n2374713


No wonder you are confuzzled by economics: the author of the article is tripping over his own feet even when they are in his mouth.

Charging higher prices in time of great distress is just mom and apple pie if the right people do it, but those who describe it exactly as the author does are the devil incarnate if from the wrong side.

Again, what's patriotism if Republicans do it is treason if Democrats do it.

Make up your motherfucking idiot minds.




BoscoX -> RE: Jeff Bezos Is Price Gouging Hurricane Victims (9/6/2017 5:22:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

john stossel recently did a segment on the texas attorney general's response to "gouging" and it was pretty interesting.

he essentially charged the man with not understanding basic economic principles and was pretty much in support of businesses being able to charge what they like, and I think he made a pretty good argument for it.

i'll look around a bit to see if I can find it in writing. or maybe someone else can find a video of it.




I recall reading an article about the same thing. I think they made a good case.

Essentially, without the raise in prices, less people will be willing to bring in needed supplies.


Which is why toilet paper, diapers and even food are unavailable in Venezuela - socialists have fixed those nasty capitalists there real good

Please note that my OP jab at Bezos was in part tongue-in-cheek

He's a massive propagandist for the alt left cause, yet his company uses algorithms to price gouge when there are shortages.




Edwird -> RE: Jeff Bezos Is Price Gouging Hurricane Victims (9/6/2017 5:25:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Even so, the biggest socialist propagandist in the land charging hurricane victims $25 for a bottle of water will always make for good political discussion


So why aren't you celebrating him finally seeing the light and coming over to your side?

I mean, societal/social predation has been the foundation platform of the Republican party for some time now.

But all you can do is be the adult whiney 4 yr. old, no matter what, as usual.




bounty44 -> RE: Jeff Bezos Is Price Gouging Hurricane Victims (9/6/2017 5:31:37 PM)

i think government is often well-intended, but sometimes not adequately equipped for the exigencies of life.




Edwird -> RE: Jeff Bezos Is Price Gouging Hurricane Victims (9/6/2017 5:41:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
He's a massive propagandist for the alt left cause, yet his company uses algorithms to price gouge when there are shortages.


Everything is massive to a person screaming across the room with his hair on fire at all times.

It's called "projection."




BoscoX -> RE: Jeff Bezos Is Price Gouging Hurricane Victims (9/6/2017 6:00:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Even so, the biggest socialist propagandist in the land charging hurricane victims $25 for a bottle of water will always make for good political discussion


So why aren't you celebrating him finally seeing the light and coming over to your side?

I mean, societal/social predation has been the foundation platform of the Republican party for some time now.

But all you can do is be the adult whiney 4 yr. old, no matter what, as usual.



The best leftist trash can ever do for "debate"

Textbook example




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Jeff Bezos Is Price Gouging Hurricane Victims (9/6/2017 6:40:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BeautifulNotion

You seem like someone we can all trust. Are you going to ban me for that or will you need your lover sanity boscox and his 30 socks permission first.

Do not cross paths with me ever again on here. If I suddenly vanish you will know why dear readers of non abhorrence.



O.0 what the...?

Is this in reply to me? If it was, you should know, I'm not currently a moderator, and haven't been for a very long time. Even when I was, I preferred to avoid moderating the forums. Besides which, I'm not so invested, that I would resort to petty grievances. So, to put it simply, no I can't ban you.

Despite several unrequited crushes on several people on this site - I'm not now, nor Have I ever been the lover of anyone who posts on these boards.

Check the sock you're wearing, before pointing fingers at another and calling out any previous pseudonyms they may or may not have used.

If you weren't replying to me, my words still stand. Take what you can use, leave the rest.





Edwird -> RE: Jeff Bezos Is Price Gouging Hurricane Victims (9/6/2017 7:29:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: Edwird
quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Even so, the biggest socialist propagandist in the land charging hurricane victims $25 for a bottle of water will always make for good political discussion


So why aren't you celebrating him finally seeing the light and coming over to your side?

I mean, societal/social predation has been the foundation platform of the Republican party for some time now.

But all you can do is be the adult whiney 4 yr. old, no matter what, as usual.


The best leftist trash can ever do for "debate"
Textbook example


Inability to answer the point made; noted.

Though it's no small irony that someone who despises fact and is a champion of others who make that a point of pride, especially the clown du jour, refers to "textbook."




Marini -> RE: Jeff Bezos Is Price Gouging Hurricane Victims (9/6/2017 7:46:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


Even so, the biggest socialist propagandist in the land charging hurricane victims $25 for a bottle of water will always make for good political discussion



I guess many have not heard of CORPORATE LIBERALS??
Eventually many Democrats/and liberals will wake up.
It is going to take some time, though.

Counterpunch- The corporate liberal in America

From the link:
Whether seated in Congress or exiting a voting booth, a corporate liberal is someone who supports anything progressive that does not challenge corporate power. In practice, this means corporate liberals will fight for progressive identity politics. If it has to do with race, sexual orientation, and gender, it generally doesn’t challenge




Hillwilliam -> RE: Jeff Bezos Is Price Gouging Hurricane Victims (9/7/2017 4:14:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44


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ORIGINAL: BeautifulNotion

Woof! Woof!

Curious you are terrified of that one?


curious if you are wickedsdesire on medication?

If he is on medication, it's the wrong stuff.




MercTech -> RE: Jeff Bezos Is Price Gouging Hurricane Victims (9/7/2017 4:58:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird
You're talking to someone who proclaims that Hitler was a leftist.

So that's where that is.


Well, Hitler WAS a socialist.

The word "Nazi" is an abbreviation for the word "Nationalsozialist". The full name of the political party was the "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" - the National Socialist German Worker's Party.




Edwird -> RE: Jeff Bezos Is Price Gouging Hurricane Victims (9/7/2017 6:35:34 PM)

A bunch of people much smarter than either of us have been all through this before. Sorry you missed out on it.

The point is: was Hitler a leftist?

Ich habbe mich spreche die Deutschesprache nicht sehr gut. Und dich?

Oh wait . . .
Germany had public roads and public trains, so definitely leftist. And still are.

Ironic, is it not? that the deutscher Grundgesetz eliminates the leftist Hitler, yet they still have public transportation?

SMH . . .

"Einer Leerkopf macht Frei!"

"An empty head is freedom!"








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