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RE: Trump cuts a debt ceiling deal with Democrats - 9/8/2017 5:41:16 PM   
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Congress found a loophole in the Constitution, to preapprove debt to a certain limit, instead of approving each additional debt incurred by the government. You can't get out of debt without paying more than just the interest, but then that's austerity talk, and we can't be having that.

The dollar amount soared under Obama, but then highest % increases came during Reagan & HDubbya's 12 years in office. The tax policies haven't changed much since, and spending hasn't been cut more than anecdotally in any sector of government.

Even the 'balanced budget' of the Clinton era didn't pay off any real debt. But that went out the window after 9/11 anyway. Two Wars have been financed without tax increases. Major bailouts have been financed, again without tax increases.

And our Congressmen are whores. No matter what their official stance on spending is, they go for as much as they can get for their districts, and that means making deals to give other districts money too.

The entire system.in convoluted.

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RE: Trump cuts a debt ceiling deal with Democrats - 9/8/2017 6:17:43 PM   
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The debt ceiling wasn't raised during President Obama's 8 years? Really?

No, but it wouldn't have been raised half as much if a republican dominated congress hadn't shut down the government every time he tried to raise taxes.


Dafuq are you talking about? You think that because the GOP tried to get some things passed when bills to raise the debt ceiling were being voted on caused the debt ceiling to have to be raised twice as much as it should have?!? How dafuq do you come up with that shit?!?


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RE: Trump cuts a debt ceiling deal with Democrats - 9/8/2017 6:19:12 PM   
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Why does it matter and why does this happen all the time?
Let us overlook such trifling matters such as he promised to pay it off (obviously with not a dime of his own tax money for he pays none, none at all) by his first term, or was it his first jail term?
America may have defaulted on its conscious and humanity a long time ago but it will never happen with the almighty dollar of worthlessness.
Heh he boarded his swanky hotel up did you see that?
The UK has no debt ceiling so why does America?


Are UK and US politicians driven by the same goals?


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RE: Trump cuts a debt ceiling deal with Democrats - 9/8/2017 6:29:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: GeekiusChardonay
Why does it matter and why does this happen all the time?
Let us overlook such trifling matters such as he promised to pay it off (obviously with not a dime of his own tax money for he pays none, none at all) by his first term, or was it his first jail term?
America may have defaulted on its conscious and humanity a long time ago but it will never happen with the almighty dollar of worthlessness.
Heh he boarded his swanky hotel up did you see that?
The UK has no debt ceiling so why does America?


Are UK and US politicians driven by the same goals?



What on earth are you on about errant jobbie person
I will take WhoreManb in my team, and possibly HB.
But here I am alone all vulnerable.

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RE: Trump cuts a debt ceiling deal with Democrats - 9/8/2017 6:31:32 PM   
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The dollar amount soared under Obama, but then highest % increases came during Reagan & HDubbya's 12 years in office. The tax policies haven't changed much since, and spending hasn't been cut more than anecdotally in any sector of government.


What's worse is when Congress is talking about "cutting spending," what they're really saying is that they are going to pretend to limit spending increases.
    Budget line X is $500B now.
    Under current law, it is set to grow to $1.5T in 10 years.
    Let's change the law so it only grows to $1T in 10 years.
    Let's pat ourselves on the back for "cutting" $500B in spending.


All the while, we continue to actually spend more and more dollars, with no end in sight.


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RE: Trump cuts a debt ceiling deal with Democrats - 9/8/2017 6:32:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV
The dollar amount soared under Obama, but then highest % increases came during Reagan & HDubbya's 12 years in office. The tax policies haven't changed much since, and spending hasn't been cut more than anecdotally in any sector of government.


What's worse is when Congress is talking about "cutting spending," what they're really saying is that they are going to pretend to limit spending increases.
    Budget line X is $500B now.
    Under current law, it is set to grow to $1.5T in 10 years.
    Let's change the law so it only grows to $1T in 10 years.
    Let's pat ourselves on the back for "cutting" $500B in spending.


All the while, we continue to actually spend more and more dollars, with no end in sight.



And we're going to lower taxes while we're at it, and talk about fiscal responsibility.

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RE: Trump cuts a debt ceiling deal with Democrats - 9/8/2017 6:36:10 PM   
GeekiusChardonay


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did not?

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RE: Trump cuts a debt ceiling deal with Democrats - 9/8/2017 6:44:22 PM   
JVoV


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Status: offline 		The debit ceiling really isn't important. Congress could cut spending in any appropriations bill that comes along, but won't. Both parties love to spend money, they just want to control how it's spent.

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RE: Trump cuts a debt ceiling deal with Democrats - 9/8/2017 7:06:22 PM   
GeekiusChardonay


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List me the single women on here

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RE: Trump cuts a debt ceiling deal with Democrats - 9/8/2017 7:34:20 PM   
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RE: Trump cuts a debt ceiling deal with Democrats - 9/8/2017 7:53:14 PM   
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The debit ceiling really isn't important. Congress could cut spending in any appropriations bill that comes along, but won't. Both parties love to spend money, they just want to control how it's spent.


Truth.


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