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Is this the End of the World as we know it?


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Is this the End of the World as we know it? - 9/8/2017 10:55:36 AM   
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The First Portent: A dragon swallows the Sun plunging parts of America into darkness. (sometimes falsely known as a solar eclipse)

Second Portent: Hurricane Harvey inundates the Houston area laying waste to everything in its path and dumping over 50 inches of rain on some locations.
Third Portent: Hurricane Someone forms in the Gulf of Mexico
Fourth Portent: Hurricane Irma flattens some Islands, whose names I know not, and, even now, bares down on Florida, with a devastating glint in her eye.
Fifth Portent: Hurricane Jose gathers momentum and steams full ahead for the new world.
Sixth Portent: A plasma wave, from the biggest coronal mass ejection in over a decade from Sol, sears Terra Firma atmosphere, and causes blackouts, and pretty Auroras.
Seventh Portent: A magnitude 8.2 earth quake rocks Mexico to the core, shaking Mexico City. This was 1000 miles away from the epicenter.

President Baalberith betrays his Republican Brothers and forms a pact with the Democrats, and thus good becomes true evil.
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RE: Is this the End of the World as we know it? - 9/8/2017 11:16:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		It does look like the early days of the "Crazy Years" as predicted in the 60s... fanaticism and neo-barbarianism tearing society apart.

http://www.scifiwright.com/2010/01/the-crazy-years-and-their-empty-moral-vocabulary/

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RE: Is this the End of the World as we know it? - 9/8/2017 11:17:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		There have been solar eclipses since the beginning of time. Scientists knew when this one was coming and know when all future ones are coming. There will be one in the middle of Wisconsin in 2099. Hurricanes have also been around for ever. Much less predictable though.

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RE: Is this the End of the World as we know it? - 9/8/2017 11:22:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		He's talking Revelations, not Heinlein's future history (the early stages of which, by now, have proven so completely wrong that trying to claim any bits of it are happening seems a bit wrongheaded, btw: and that's without even getting into the hatchet job Heinlein himself did on his earlier "predictions" in the work he published during the last ten or fifteen years of his career...)

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RE: Is this the End of the World as we know it? - 9/8/2017 11:27:28 AM   
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RE: Is this the End of the World as we know it? - 9/8/2017 11:41:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MercTech

It does look like the early days of the "Crazy Years" as predicted in the 60s... fanaticism and neo-barbarianism tearing society apart.

http://www.scifiwright.com/2010/01/the-crazy-years-and-their-empty-moral-vocabulary/

Read almost all of it and wow...what unmitigated bullshit.

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RE: Is this the End of the World as we know it? - 9/8/2017 11:46:52 AM   
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I have never understood the Heinlen attraction.

He's a lot easier to read and digest as a model than Ayn Rand, and has a sort of bullish simplicity to his libertarian ranting that makes him a lot more attractive on that level than other equally rightist writers of a similar vintage who haven't become role models as they're a lot harder to strip mine for models. (Poul Anderson and Jack Vance in particular spring to mind on that level: their heroes share their values, but so do a lot of their villains, rather than being idiotic liberals wo aren't smart enough to know better like the bad guys in Heinlein.)
The really hilarious thing, is the way that Heinlein spent the '80s taking a hatchet to the works that his imitators are still drawing on now, but it seems to be bad form to talk about how stuff like The Cat Who Walks Through Walls trashes the fictive world that people like Pournelle, Bova and Robinson based their career around pastiching. (I've always been taken with Thomas Disch's argument that The Turner Diaries is just as blatantly using Heinlein's approach as a model as his more acceptable imitators as well, but that's a whole other argument, I suppose.)
Or to put it another way: Heinlein is a good enough writer to make his ideological arguments palatable and truthful looking, in a way that Rand couldn't, an so has spawned whole generations of SF writers who imitate his politics as well as his knack for engineering and storytelling.

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RE: Is this the End of the World as we know it? - 9/8/2017 11:48:44 AM   
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It does look like the early days of the "Crazy Years" as predicted in the 60s... fanaticism and neo-barbarianism tearing society apart.

http://www.scifiwright.com/2010/01/the-crazy-years-and-their-empty-moral-vocabulary/

Read almost all of it and wow...what unmitigated bullshit.

He spends a lot more time talking about van Vogt as somebody who offers models to solve the liberal foolishness that caused the crazy years as well, doesn't he?

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RE: Is this the End of the World as we know it? - 9/8/2017 11:53:25 AM   
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I have never understood the heinlen attraction.

You didn't GROK it you mean.

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RE: Is this the End of the World as we know it? - 9/8/2017 11:55:04 AM   
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He's talking Revelations, not Heinlein's future history (the early stages of which, by now, have proven so completely wrong that trying to claim any bits of it are happening seems a bit wrongheaded, btw: and that's without even getting into the hatchet job Heinlein himself did on his earlier "predictions" in the work he published during the last ten or fifteen years of his career...)

The idea is to get published. You create new jargon (meaningless phrases) sound all smart and everything, piss few people off, get a few kudos then...live long and prosper.

Maybe get a couple hundred grand, maybe even two books. Then hit the talk circuit and retire.

Then end of the world 'as we know it' is far too broad. It depends on just...'how you know it.'

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RE: Is this the End of the World as we know it? - 9/8/2017 11:56:13 AM   
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I have never understood the heinlen attraction.

You didn't GROK it you mean.



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RE: Is this the End of the World as we know it? - 9/8/2017 12:07:20 PM   
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RE: Is this the End of the World as we know it? - 9/8/2017 12:12:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Eclipse of Thales I would probably take that one with a pinch of salt. It was most likely the Chinese or Babylonians’ who predicted the first Eclipses, and long before “Thales,” although solar eclipses are a lot harder to predict: especially back then. Which is why I am saying it was the Mayans who were first able to (accurately) predict Solar eclipses to the tune of hundred of years into the future.

Why were there solar eclipses on key dates of battle, 1066 and others? A curious coincidence I suppose.

If I took out Portent number three then that would tidy the seventh seal up. And I really do hope that Earthquake was not a precursor, or the one that will unzip the San Andreas and Cascadia. And my heart goes out to everyone affected, and about to be affected, by the Tempests.

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RE: Is this the End of the World as we know it? - 9/8/2017 12:19:16 PM   
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It does look like the early days of the "Crazy Years" as predicted in the 60s... fanaticism and neo-barbarianism tearing society apart.

http://www.scifiwright.com/2010/01/the-crazy-years-and-their-empty-moral-vocabulary/

Read almost all of it and wow...what unmitigated bullshit.

He spends a lot more time talking about van Vogt as somebody who offers models to solve the liberal foolishness that caused the crazy years as well, doesn't he?

Well yes, too much time on van Vogt but the whole thing smacks as sort of a literary and political opportunism. The after-the-fact analysis too easy and short term not to denigrate (moneymakers now) anyone of real importance. (why writers go after easily identifiable groups and figures from the past) Get your check and go start on another.

One picks their own strawman, (the crazy 60's ? liberal foolishness) uses their words as he defines them, make up your own semantics, those crazy words that nobody else seems to understand, yet...ill defined if at all and proclaim a whole new dispositive perspective. When all it is, is partisan rant with a new twist.

I have an OP on this subject coming as it relates the failure of liberalism to make it to the top of the political/power food chain and what I say, does portend...the end of the world. Ok, from our somewhat early perspective, at least the beginning of the end...of the world.



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RE: Is this the End of the World as we know it? - 9/8/2017 1:36:33 PM   
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RE: Is this the End of the World as we know it? - 9/8/2017 5:14:06 PM   
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RE: Is this the End of the World as we know it? - 9/8/2017 6:51:11 PM   
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