DesideriScuri
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It's easier and cheaper than sending in the navy every time.
Why are we sending in the Navy? Could it be "American Imperialism?"
Some of the links did point illustrate how we "meddle" in an election by making candidates we don't prefer "disappear."
I certainly agree with you that American expansionism and imperialism has produced a history of meddling in the elections of other nations, especially under the flag of anti-communism. However, you don’t really know if it had any effect or not. And whether it did or not why should we put up with 100 or more fake, Americanized posters all spewing the same message and trying to add to the historical disarray we have in our messy democracy. We should at the very least be cognizant of what’s going on and try to counter it where possible.
True, we don't know really know if it had an effect.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/a-timeline-of-cia-atrocities/5348804 quote:
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1948...
Italy — The CIA corrupts democratic elections in Italy, where Italian communists threaten to win the elections. The CIA buys votes, broadcasts propaganda, threatens and beats up opposition leaders, and infiltrates and disrupts their organizations. It works — the communists are defeated.
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Late 40s
Operation MOCKINGBIRD — The CIA begins recruiting American news organizations and journalists to become spies and disseminators of propaganda. The effort is headed by Frank Wisner, Allan Dulles, Richard Helms and Philip Graham. Graham is publisher of The Washington Post, which becomes a major CIA player. Eventually, the CIA’s media assets will include ABC, NBC, CBS, Time, Newsweek, Associated Press, United Press International, Reuters, Hearst Newspapers, Scripps-Howard, Copley News Service and more. By the CIA’s own admission, at least 25 organizations and 400 journalists will become CIA assets.
1953
Iran – CIA overthrows the democratically elected Mohammed Mossadegh in a military coup, after he threatened to nationalize British oil. The CIA replaces him with a dictator, the Shah of Iran, whose secret police, SAVAK, is as brutal as the Gestapo.
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1954
Guatemala — CIA overthrows the democratically elected Jacob Arbenz in a military coup. Arbenz has threatened to nationalize the Rockefeller-owned United Fruit Company, in which CIA Director Allen Dulles also owns stock. Arbenz is replaced with a series of right-wing dictators whose bloodthirsty policies will kill over 100,000 Guatemalans in the next 40 years.
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The list goes on.
Should we be cognizant of what's going on? Absolutely. Should we try to counter it? I think that's going to be quite a bit more difficult, as we don't necessarily know what's foreign propaganda and what isn't; at least not at the time it's gong on. For example, it's going to be a bit tough to counter any Facebook propaganda the Russian government may have put forth prior to the 2016 election. Unless you have a functional WABAC machine, it's pretty damn impossible.
Let's add in that there is enough disagreement between the two parties that either side could blame outside influence. Look at all the YouTube videos that show the major news outlets using almost the exact same words (much of the time it's not verbatim) in reaction to one side or the other.
FFS, the DNC and Hillary sure look like they colluded to interfere with the election by preventing Sanders from winning the nomination.
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