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RE: Hillary REALLY needs to go paint like GWB - 9/15/2017 6:18:03 PM   
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There's the other problem of voters supporting Trump by proxy.

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RE: Hillary REALLY needs go paint like GWB - 9/15/2017 6:20:44 PM   
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The book tour has been interesting, and I'm always interested in her perspective. She was the most conservative, realistic candidate out there -- better equipped to be President than to run for the office. Men irrationally hated her or carped about minor shit -- when the electoral choice was clear as day.

She thumped Sanders by 5M votes.

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RE: Hillary REALLY needs go paint like GWB - 9/15/2017 9:03:51 PM   
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If you think Hillary is a conservative, you are a complete idiot,.

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RE: Hillary REALLY needs go paint like GWB - 9/15/2017 9:07:01 PM   
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If you think Hillary is a conservative, you are a complete idiot,.



She is a poster child for the corporate liberals.

Counterpunch- Corporate Liberalism in America

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RE: Hillary REALLY needs to go paint like GWB - 9/15/2017 9:29:21 PM   
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“This is the tormented, tragic work of a spurned woman who never thought she could possibly lose to Donald Trump, a man she considered her inferior opponent in every possible way imaginable from intellect and political experience to credibility and popularity,” he added.


She isn't wrong.

Trump IS blatantly stupid.
Trump had zero political experience.
He also had and still has zero credibility-- his supporters are unfortunately too stupid to realize it.
Hillary won the popular vote by a huge margin.

Hillary's big problem was that she overestimated the American voter.


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RE: Hillary REALLY needs to go paint like GWB - 9/16/2017 5:32:09 AM   
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“This is the tormented, tragic work of a spurned woman who never thought she could possibly lose to Donald Trump, a man she considered her inferior opponent in every possible way imaginable from intellect and political experience to credibility and popularity,” he added.


She isn't wrong.

Trump IS blatantly stupid.
Trump had zero political experience.
He also had and still has zero credibility-- his supporters are unfortunately too stupid to realize it.
Hillary won the popular vote by a huge margin.

Hillary's big problem was that she overestimated the American voter.




Trump beat you and everything you believe in with his hands effectively tied behind his back by Hillary's fawning useful idiot media

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RE: Hillary REALLY needs to go paint like GWB - 9/16/2017 5:41:41 AM   
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One of the reasons that Trump won was because he had no political experience. The old hag Hillary needs to go away.

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RE: Hillary REALLY needs to go paint like GWB - 9/16/2017 6:20:13 AM   
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One of the reasons that Trump won was because he had no political experience. The old hag Hillary needs to go away.


Obama weaponized the government for leftist political activism, which is a big reason people wanted a non-politician in office.

Hope and change and blah blah blah bullshit lost its shine

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RE: Hillary REALLY needs to go paint like GWB - 9/16/2017 4:28:33 PM   
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One of the reasons that Trump won was because he had no political experience. The old hag Hillary needs to go away.


Obama weaponized the government for leftist political activism, which is a big reason people wanted a non-politician in office.

Hope and change and blah blah blah bullshit lost its shine


Obama weaponized the government? Isn't that just a BIT on the dramatic side?

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RE: Hillary REALLY needs to go paint like GWB - 9/16/2017 5:01:18 PM   
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Hillary won the popular vote by a huge margin.


So those Russians she's sure were influencing the election were actually working on HER behalf I guess.
How else could the second most hated woman in America (after Nancy Grace) possibly win the popular vote?
Those darn Ruskies. I'm going to have strong words with Mr. Putin if he ever comes to Detroit.

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RE: Hillary REALLY needs to go paint like GWB - 9/16/2017 5:20:07 PM   
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He also had and still has zero credibility-- his supporters are unfortunately too stupid to realize it.


smug pompous ass

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Hillary won the popular vote by a huge margin.


~2% is a huge margin??

and I recently saw an article title asserting that trump would have won the popular vote had gary Johnson not been a candidate.

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RE: Hillary REALLY needs to go paint like GWB - 9/16/2017 7:44:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: servantforuse

One of the reasons that Trump won was because he had no political experience. The old hag Hillary needs to go away.


Obama weaponized the government for leftist political activism, which is a big reason people wanted a non-politician in office.

Hope and change and blah blah blah bullshit lost its shine


Obama weaponized the government? Isn't that just a BIT on the dramatic side?


What's dramatic is how you have managed to completely ignore the obvious reality for so long. Did you accomplish this naturally or did you use drugs to do it so effectively

His IRS attacked and sabotaged his political foes, his DOJ helped Hillary avoid prison, his ATF ran guns to Mexican drug lords as part of a greater effort to move public opinion on gun control, his spooks kept the Trump campaign closely monitored

And so on



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RE: Hillary REALLY needs to go paint like GWB - 9/16/2017 8:19:37 PM   
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Or if the votes from California didn't count.

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RE: Hillary REALLY needs to go paint like GWB - 9/16/2017 9:37:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: servantforuse

One of the reasons that Trump won was because he had no political experience. The old hag Hillary needs to go away.


Obama weaponized the government for leftist political activism, which is a big reason people wanted a non-politician in office.

Hope and change and blah blah blah bullshit lost its shine


Obama weaponized the government? Isn't that just a BIT on the dramatic side?


What's dramatic is how you have managed to completely ignore the obvious reality for so long. Did you accomplish this naturally or did you use drugs to do it so effectively

His IRS attacked and sabotaged his political foes, his DOJ helped Hillary avoid prison, his ATF ran guns to Mexican drug lords as part of a greater effort to move public opinion on gun control, his spooks kept the Trump campaign closely monitored

And so on





Wow... I have no doubt you fully believe all of that. You are soooooo deep into the right-wing echo chamber.

1. The IRS was enforcing the law. There was (and is) widespread abuse of the 501c4 program, primarily by right-wing propaganda organizations (but also by left-wing propaganda organizations) to basically get we the taxpayers to foot the bill for their nonsense. The IRS was cracking down on them. The snowflake whiners on the right said "Obama is picking on me.... Wahhhhhhh"

2. Yes you are right about that. Loretta Lynch pressured Comey. (And Comey ridiculously and erroneously said "No crime committed here." That hardly qualifies as Obama weaponizing anything.

3. The ATF let guns "walk" as a way to track buyers and sellers. "Fast and Furious" was modeled after "Operation Wide Receiver" under Bush. - The Right-wing echo chamber tried to paint it as a left-wing anti-gun conspiracy.

4. As far as spooks closely monitoring the Trump campaign. Yes. In the context of investigating potential illegal activity or in defense of national security.


What is dramatic is, that every story that comes out of the right-wing echo chamber, you come in double-fisted with 2 tall glasses to be filled with the kool-aid.

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RE: Hillary REALLY needs to go paint like GWB - 9/17/2017 3:17:57 AM   
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Or if the votes from California didn't count.


its even worse---its just the two urban centers of los angeles and nyc.

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RE: Hillary REALLY needs to go paint like GWB - 9/17/2017 6:40:46 AM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: bounty44
“This is the tormented, tragic work of a spurned woman who never thought she could possibly lose to Donald Trump, a man she considered her inferior opponent in every possible way imaginable from intellect and political experience to credibility and popularity,” he added.


She isn't wrong.

Trump IS blatantly stupid.
Trump had zero political experience.
He also had and still has zero credibility-- his supporters are unfortunately too stupid to realize it.
Hillary won the popular vote by a huge margin.

Hillary's big problem was that she overestimated the American voter.




Trump beat you and everything you believe in with his hands effectively tied behind his back by Hillary's fawning useful idiot media


The worst part is that I honestly think you believe what you say.

It is probably useless to try to explain this to you, but I don't think the 2016 election was a referendum on ME.
It is absurd to claim that Hillary represented 'everything I believe'. I preferred her over Trump, but believe me, she is not alone in that category.
It is also absurd that you think the election was even a fair measure of what ANYONE wants for themselves or the country.
Trump didn't have anything tied behind his back, he just lied to everyone and people were stupid enough to believe him.

Fucking hell, these are the kinds of things I end up explaining simply because I am masochistic enough to keep posting here.

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RE: Hillary REALLY needs to go paint like GWB - 9/17/2017 6:46:31 AM   
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quote:

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Hillary won the popular vote by a huge margin.


So those Russians she's sure were influencing the election were actually working on HER behalf I guess.
How else could the second most hated woman in America (after Nancy Grace) possibly win the popular vote?
Those darn Ruskies. I'm going to have strong words with Mr. Putin if he ever comes to Detroit.


No, the Russians were not helping Hillary by tying her to pedophile rings, releasing hacked DNC emails and smearing her every chance they got... WTF is wrong with you?
I know you just want to have something to say because I basically called you stupid, but if you really want to 'get' me then THINK about you want to type before you type it, otherwise you simply lend more credibility to my claim.

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RE: Hillary REALLY needs to go paint like GWB - 9/17/2017 6:48:58 AM   
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He also had and still has zero credibility-- his supporters are unfortunately too stupid to realize it.


smug pompous ass

quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
Hillary won the popular vote by a huge margin.


~2% is a huge margin??

and I recently saw an article title asserting that trump would have won the popular vote had gary Johnson not been a candidate.


Oh really?
Was the article on townhall.com?

Hey... did you know that if the Democrats, Libertarians and Greens hadn't run any candidates, then Trump would have won 100% of the vote?!
Makes you think, doesn't it?

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RE: Hillary REALLY needs to go paint like GWB - 9/17/2017 6:50:26 AM   
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Or if the votes from California didn't count.


Yes, genius, if millions of people hadn't voted for Hillary, then Trump would have won the popular vote.
Your fellow right-wing primates are so lucky they have you to point this out for them.

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RE: Hillary REALLY needs to go paint like GWB - 9/17/2017 9:31:57 AM   
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And the left-wing liberal primates, Hillary included, want to end the electoral college. Not happening.

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