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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 7:53:04 AM   
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He's definitely alienating his base.

Everytime when Trump are doing something good.

All Lefties can say is, he is "betraying" his base. Lol!

It's hilarious. But you don't understand that his "base" understands him and his decisions.


Every time?
LOL no.

Sorry Greta, it's the right who are the repetition-obsessed robots.
My comment was obviously tongue-in-cheek, and with just enough truth in it to work.

This was a PR move-- pure damage control, and it definitely wasn't his idea.
The GOPers are big enough scumbags to run Trump in the first place, but not big enough scumbags to get behind actual Nazis.

Trump, on the other hand, IS a big enough scumbag to get behind actual Nazis.

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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 8:05:21 AM   
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Interesting that decrying racism and hate mongering in all forms gets labeled by libtard logic as being against white supremacists. As if the white supremacists were more than a tiny minority fraction of the parade at Charlottesville.
And that article from "The Hill" totally ignores the Antifa terrorists in Charlottesville who perpetrated the first attacks on people and devolved a peaceful demonstration into a riot.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/unmasking-antifa-anti-fascists-hard-left/index.html

Note in the picture that the people on the left side simply standing and resisting the attack were the ones accused of being Nazis. The attacking people with signs, clubs, and pepper spray on the right were the "counter protesters".

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/08/what_the_alt_left_was_actually_doing_in_charlottesville.html

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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 8:09:07 AM   
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Ok, it is a simple (non-binding) resolution. I was wondering if it was given to the President to be signed as a signature of law (i.e. Propose an amendment to constitutional law.)

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Ooops there it is....


https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-resolution/118/text




S. RES. 118

Condemning hate crime and any other form of racism, religious or ethnic bias, discrimination, incitement to violence, or animus targeting a minority in the United States.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
April 5 (legislative day, April 4), 2017
Ms. Harris (for herself, Mr. Rubio, Mrs. Feinstein, and Ms. Collins) submitted the following resolution; which was considered and agreed to

RESOLUTION
Condemning hate crime and any other form of racism, religious or ethnic bias, discrimination, incitement to violence, or animus targeting a minority in the United States.

Whereas, in the past several years, violent crimes, threats of violence, and other incidents of hate-motivated targeting of religious, racial, and ethnic minorities have increased across the United States;

Whereas, in 2015, hate crimes targeting Muslims in the United States increased by 67 percent, reaching a level of violence targeting Muslim Americans that the United States had not experienced since the aftermath of the September 11, 2001, attacks, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation;

Whereas, in 2015, anti-Semitic incidents increased in the United States for the second straight year, according to the Anti-Defamation League’s 2015 Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents, which describes trends such as the tripling of assaults targeting Jews since 2012 and the rise of online harassment and hate speech directed at Jewish journalists and individuals through social media;

Whereas, in 2015, anti-Semitic incidents at institutions of higher education nearly doubled compared to the number of those incidents in 2014, and during the 2016–2017 school year there has been an increase in white supremacist activity on college campuses across the United States, according to the Anti-Defamation League;

Whereas, in 2015, among single-bias hate crime incidents in the United States, 59.2 percent of victims were targeted due to racial, ethnic, or ancestry bias, and among those victims, 52.2 percent were victims of crimes motivated by their offenders’ anti-Black or anti-African American bias, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation;

Whereas, in 2017, there have been more than 100 reported bomb threats against Jewish community centers, Jewish day schools, and other Jewish organizations and institutions in more than 38 States;

Whereas, in 2017, Islamic centers and mosques have been burned in the States of Texas, Washington, and Florida, and Jewish cemeteries have been desecrated in the States of Missouri and Pennsylvania;

Whereas, in 2017, there has been harassment and hate-based violence against individuals who are perceived to be Arab or Muslim, including members of South Asian communities in the United States, and Hindu and Sikh Americans have been the target of hate-based violence targeting religious minorities; and

Whereas, on February 28, 2017, President Donald Trump, before a joint session of Congress, acknowledged threats targeting Jewish community centers and the vandalism of Jewish cemeteries, and stated that “we are a country that stands united in condemning hate and evil in all of its very ugly forms”: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That the Senate—

(1) affirms that the United States stands united in condemning hate and evil in all forms;

(2) rejects hate-motivated crime as an attack on the fabric of the society of the United States and the ideals of pluralism and respect;

(3) condemns hate crime and any other form of racism, religious or ethnic bias, discrimination, incitement to violence, or animus targeting a minority in the United States;

(4) calls on Federal law enforcement officials, working with State and local officials—

(A) to expeditiously investigate all credible reports of hate crimes and incidents and threats against minorities in the United States; and

(B) to hold the perpetrators of those crimes, incidents, or threats accountable and bring the perpetrators to justice;

(5) encourages the Department of Justice and other Federal agencies—

(A) to work to improve the reporting of hate crimes; and

(B) to emphasize the importance of the agencies' collection and reporting of data pursuant to Federal law;

(6) encourages the development of an interagency task force led by the Attorney General to collaborate on the development of effective strategies and efforts to detect and deter hate crime in order to protect minority communities; and

(7) calls on the executive branch—

(A) to continue to offer Federal assistance that may be available for victims of hate crimes; and

(B) to continue to carry out safety and preparedness programs for religious institutions, places of worship, and other institutions that have been targeted because of the affiliation of the institutions with any particular religious, racial, or ethnic minority in the United States.

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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 8:28:03 AM   
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I'm really confused. Why did Trump sign it? Senate resolutions aren't law (or bills ready to become law), and to my knowledge, there is no place specifically for a President's signature on the document.

So this makes as much sense as Trump signing a Calvin & Hobbes comic.

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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 8:44:55 AM   
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Interesting that decrying racism and hate mongering in all forms gets labeled by libtard logic as being against white supremacists. As if the white supremacists were more than a tiny minority fraction of the parade at Charlottesville.
And that article from "The Hill" totally ignores the Antifa terrorists in Charlottesville who perpetrated the first attacks on people and devolved a peaceful demonstration into a riot.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/unmasking-antifa-anti-fascists-hard-left/index.html

Note in the picture that the people on the left side simply standing and resisting the attack were the ones accused of being Nazis. The attacking people with signs, clubs, and pepper spray on the right were the "counter protesters".

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/08/what_the_alt_left_was_actually_doing_in_charlottesville.html

see the resolution
peaceful my arse.
Neither side comes out looking good in the violent aspect ?
Antifa is not the libs, or the left, or dems, its a tiny fraction of the left, but the "right" cant seem to get that either. as your post proves.
Normalising hate groups isnt gonna work. from any side.





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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 8:49:32 AM   
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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/08/what_the_alt_left_was_actually_doing_in_charlottesville.html


I am guessing you didn't read this article, as it basically says that antifa was the only group there who was willing to fight back and protect the peaceful counter-protestors from a lot of aggressive, violent Nazis/alt-righters.

The counter-protestors were actually relieved that antifa was there because without them, they were sure they would have been injured or killed.

But of course, Nazis would never really hurt anyone so we must all conclude that this is a lie.
Well, except for when they shot into the crowd and killed that woman with a car-- totally innocent mistakes, of course.

Anyways, good on you for bringing this to everyone's attention... despite the fact that the RWNJs won't read it or will read it and dismiss it as lies.

Even the reverend who said 'antifa saved my life twice' was probably a violent leftist radical.

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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 8:58:52 AM   
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I'm really confused. Why did Trump sign it? Senate resolutions aren't law (or bills ready to become law), and to my knowledge, there is no place specifically for a President's signature on the document.

So this makes as much sense as Trump signing a Calvin & Hobbes comic.


As the song goes... "Let's give 'em something to talk about..."

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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 9:02:12 AM   
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh8wpQEchM0

So one of the counter-protestors here is saying that they were actually trying to get arrested, but the police wouldn't do it... they allowed the fascists to go at them, allowed the violence to take place.
Interesting that many of the counter-protestors were clergy.

The Nazis also verbally abused a woman in front of her 13 year old son because she said to them 'Peace be with you'.

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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 9:53:32 AM   
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Everytime when Trump are doing something good.

All Lefties can say is, he is "betraying" his base. Lol!

It's hilarious. But you don't understand that his "base" understands him and his decisions.

They understand it, Greta. They just don't care because they don't like Trump. Their main interest is simply to insult and mock his supporters.



well when they have nothing they have to create bullshit to fill the gaps, much the same is all their incessant fake news.

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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 9:59:28 AM   
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the counterprotestors aka alt-left antifa is anything but peaceful, they are a violent terrorist group.

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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 10:05:50 AM   
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Is a signed resolution simply an official statement regarding the current establishments stance, or does it have any potential for being applied in a broadened "legislative?" Manner?
I'm having a brain fog moment, and finding it difficult to word my question appropriately. Hopefully it reads at least partially coherent. If not, I'll try to ask it again when the fog clears.


WD, the resolution means fuckall for application in a legislative manner. It's something Congress (and the President) can pass so as to make it seem like they care and want to do something, but it does nothing. I'm sure most, or maybe every Congressperson and the President care deeply and want to do something, but this resolution does jack shit.

It's like writing a strongly worded letter to a country doing something you don't like when all the next steps are going to be to write a strongly worded letter, or a more strongly worded letter.




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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 10:08:22 AM   
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I'm really confused. Why did Trump sign it? Senate resolutions aren't law (or bills ready to become law), and to my knowledge, there is no place specifically for a President's signature on the document.
So this makes as much sense as Trump signing a Calvin & Hobbes comic.


I think him signing a Calvin and Hobbes comic would be a much more amazing thing; one of the greatest comic strips of all time, imo.


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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 10:12:03 AM   
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh8wpQEchM0

So one of the counter-protestors here is saying that they were actually trying to get arrested, but the police wouldn't do it... they allowed the fascists to go at them, allowed the violence to take place.
Interesting that many of the counter-protestors were clergy.

The Nazis also verbally abused a woman in front of her 13 year old son because she said to them 'Peace be with you'.


A woman brought her 13 year old child there?

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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 10:43:45 AM   
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I'm really confused. Why did Trump sign it? Senate resolutions aren't law (or bills ready to become law), and to my knowledge, there is no place specifically for a President's signature on the document.

So this makes as much sense as Trump signing a Calvin & Hobbes comic.

To show support.
if he hadn't many (apparently not you) would take that to mean he favored racism.

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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 11:05:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV

I'm really confused. Why did Trump sign it? Senate resolutions aren't law (or bills ready to become law), and to my knowledge, there is no place specifically for a President's signature on the document.

So this makes as much sense as Trump signing a Calvin & Hobbes comic.

To show support.
if he hadn't many (apparently not you) would take that to mean he favored racism.


Well, he certainly didn't have a problem getting people riled up at his campaign rallies.

I don't think Trump attacks any group in a general way, but uses everything he can possibly get hold of to go after a rival. And a lot of times, he doesn't even have to make the inappropriate comment to get people thinking it, and there's more people ready to be offended by that. His claims are also completely unsubstantiated, with just enough of a hint of plausibility to convince anyone that needed a reason to hate his opponent (or target).

Hell, it took multiple gallons of brain bleach to decontaminate myself after Clinton was late getting back to the debate, thanks to Trump.

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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 11:11:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV


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ORIGINAL: JVoV

I'm really confused. Why did Trump sign it? Senate resolutions aren't law (or bills ready to become law), and to my knowledge, there is no place specifically for a President's signature on the document.

So this makes as much sense as Trump signing a Calvin & Hobbes comic.

To show support.
if he hadn't many (apparently not you) would take that to mean he favored racism.


Well, he certainly didn't have a problem getting people riled up at his campaign rallies.

I don't think Trump attacks any group in a general way, but uses everything he can possibly get hold of to go after a rival. And a lot of times, he doesn't even have to make the inappropriate comment to get people thinking it, and there's more people ready to be offended by that. His claims are also completely unsubstantiated, with just enough of a hint of plausibility to convince anyone that needed a reason to hate his opponent (or target).

Hell, it took multiple gallons of brain bleach to decontaminate myself after Clinton was late getting back to the debate, thanks to Trump.

Ok, since you are a mind reader you know that everything he does is wrong.
If he doesn't condemn them he supports them, if he does it is pointless.
Of course with her history of honesty anything Hillary says is gospel, think snipers.

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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 1:57:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV

I'm really confused. Why did Trump sign it? Senate resolutions aren't law (or bills ready to become law), and to my knowledge, there is no place specifically for a President's signature on the document.

So this makes as much sense as Trump signing a Calvin & Hobbes comic.

To show support.
if he hadn't many (apparently not you) would take that to mean he favored racism.


Well, he certainly didn't have a problem getting people riled up at his campaign rallies.

I don't think Trump attacks any group in a general way, but uses everything he can possibly get hold of to go after a rival. And a lot of times, he doesn't even have to make the inappropriate comment to get people thinking it, and there's more people ready to be offended by that. His claims are also completely unsubstantiated, with just enough of a hint of plausibility to convince anyone that needed a reason to hate his opponent (or target).

Hell, it took multiple gallons of brain bleach to decontaminate myself after Clinton was late getting back to the debate, thanks to Trump.

Ok, since you are a mind reader you know that everything he does is wrong.
If he doesn't condemn them he supports them, if he does it is pointless.
Of course with her history of honesty anything Hillary says is gospel, think snipers.


And you know that he has the power & ability to do more, via Executive Orders, as well as directing the Justice Department to investigate. If what he does is pointless, it's because he wants it to be.

He missed the opportunity to laugh in the Senate's face, and demand legislation.

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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 2:35:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV

I'm really confused. Why did Trump sign it? Senate resolutions aren't law (or bills ready to become law), and to my knowledge, there is no place specifically for a President's signature on the document.

So this makes as much sense as Trump signing a Calvin & Hobbes comic.

To show support.
if he hadn't many (apparently not you) would take that to mean he favored racism.


Well, he certainly didn't have a problem getting people riled up at his campaign rallies.

I don't think Trump attacks any group in a general way, but uses everything he can possibly get hold of to go after a rival. And a lot of times, he doesn't even have to make the inappropriate comment to get people thinking it, and there's more people ready to be offended by that. His claims are also completely unsubstantiated, with just enough of a hint of plausibility to convince anyone that needed a reason to hate his opponent (or target).

Hell, it took multiple gallons of brain bleach to decontaminate myself after Clinton was late getting back to the debate, thanks to Trump.

Ok, since you are a mind reader you know that everything he does is wrong.
If he doesn't condemn them he supports them, if he does it is pointless.
Of course with her history of honesty anything Hillary says is gospel, think snipers.


And you know that he has the power & ability to do more, via Executive Orders, as well as directing the Justice Department to investigate. If what he does is pointless, it's because he wants it to be.

He missed the opportunity to laugh in the Senate's face, and demand legislation.

You want him to ignore Congress and write his own laws like Obama? What law do you want? Outlaw anyone the president declares to be extreme?
Under Obama everyone who disagreed with him was a racist.

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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 2:40:44 PM   
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RE: Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacists - 9/15/2017 3:42:27 PM   
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He's definitely alienating his base.

I wonder if his zionist daughter and the jews in his administration and business have finally had a word with him about this?

Maybe he's trying to head off those wicked Jews from calling his loans due. It could be a new comedy special, see a chapter 7 on his ass.

Could be that the Jews in Germany's Deutsche bank, and you know, those communist Jews in China and of course all of those Jewish Russian oligarchs...are getting worried.

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