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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 2:18:51 PM   
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Tayvon Martin, who never showed intent of doing harm to anyone, got killed because scared little girls like you and bama and George Zimmerman are just scared bitches.

People like you are the far greater danger to 'the general public.'

If you don't fire away at the least instigation (like our modern police) you certainly cheer every instance of it.

Everyone knows that having you head beaten in the ground never hurt anyone.

And everyone knows that Zimmerman wouldn't have got attacked if he hadn't been stalking the kid in the first place.


Hello! Zimmerman was neighborhood watch. Everyone knows that neighborhood watch is going to check up on anyone they don't know to be from the neighborhood. That's what they do.



No, what they normally do is inform the police when they see something funny going on, rather than intervening directly.

He called the police and kept his distance, he was returning to his car when Martin doubled back and he ambushed Zimmerman.
Why are you still conducting an argument you lost almost a decade ago.
While we are doing this why wasn't there a guard on Lincolns box, I know the reason, lets see what you make up.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 2:25:23 PM   
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Tayvon Martin, who never showed intent of doing harm to anyone, got killed because scared little girls like you and bama and George Zimmerman are just scared bitches.

People like you are the far greater danger to 'the general public.'

If you don't fire away at the least instigation (like our modern police) you certainly cheer every instance of it.

Everyone knows that having you head beaten in the ground never hurt anyone.

And everyone knows that Zimmerman wouldn't have got attacked if he hadn't been stalking the kid in the first place.
(Not to mention the fact that Zimmerman's behaviour since suggests that his head is solid bone and he was thus unlikely to suffer a concussion or any other damage from cranial trauma. Now if the dead thug had kicked him the arse instead, that would likely have caused brain damage...)

The trial, even the prosecution showed that Zimmerman was not stalking Martin. and that Martin doubled back and ambushed him.
Have you repeated how you wanted it be so many times you believe it or are you deliberately lying?

No, I'm just not cherry-picking in order to suggest that a cop wannabe who'd bit off more than he could chew the second he got out of his car was justified in shooting an unarmed man.

He was the victim of assault and battery who the media and Obama tried to frame.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 2:27:26 PM   
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You are not far wrong.

Seems like a good clean shoot murder to me. Over here we taser them. We almost never shoot them for we are a civil lot not a race of barbarians and a nation whipped up unto a frenzy of fear, hate, long division and denominators. They could have at least pepper sprayed her, tasered her, introduced her to the delights of a truncheoning, or wounded her a little but not to the state of death itself.

Right take a baton to a knife fight which you have been informed can turn into a gunfight.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 2:29:48 PM   
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Tayvon Martin, who never showed intent of doing harm to anyone, got killed because scared little girls like you and bama and George Zimmerman are just scared bitches.

People like you are the far greater danger to 'the general public.'

If you don't fire away at the least instigation (like our modern police) you certainly cheer every instance of it.

Everyone knows that having you head beaten in the ground never hurt anyone.

And everyone knows that Zimmerman wouldn't have got attacked if he hadn't been stalking the kid in the first place.


Hello! Zimmerman was neighborhood watch. Everyone knows that neighborhood watch is going to check up on anyone they don't know to be from the neighborhood. That's what they do.



No, what they normally do is inform the police when they see something funny going on, rather than intervening directly.


Hello! Zimmerman had already called the police when Martin double-backed on him.
You really need to stop buying into Urban Myth.


Yes, and the police dispatcher he spoke to told him to stay in his car and not do anything about the [word removed]thug he didn't like the look of. That is well documented and was mentioned at the trial, rather than an urban myth.

Wrong again. the dispatcher told him he didn't have to keep track of Martin and the whole conversation after that was about where he would meet the cops. You haven't gotten one thing right.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 2:32:33 PM   
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And the transcript of his call shows he did not follow after he was told not to.

Really? So why was he flat on his back nowhere near his car when he shot the thug?

He was returning to his car and only about half a block from his car, wrong again.


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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 2:34:18 PM   
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The transcript makes it clear he was waiting for the cops near the clubhouse.
He was flat on his back because Martin jumped him, no other reason.


The transcript makes the opposite of that clear, but enjoy your urban myths.

You read a forgery or you are lying.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 2:35:53 PM   
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Transcripts? Were they awash with tippex?
You know they differ from digital recordings?

You're thinking of Dubya's military records, where they blacked out the name of one of his colleagues who was then working (possibly still is) for the Saudis back in the noughties.

That was a proven forgery, created on a typewriter that didn't even exist at the time.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 2:38:26 PM   
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I agree too, but its scenes like this, that seem to be repeated with some frequency, that make me wish the police were better at non-lethal takedowns.

Most department abandon non-lethal when the suspect does.


I am all for police protecting themselves, and safeguarding the lives of the public nearby...I suspect theres still a way to do it.


Flash bangs come to mind. Do not forget that the police had been told he had a gun, which changes the
situation.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 2:50:36 PM   
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Her sten gun must have terrified them.

But that will teach the mental bitch for taking her individuality into a fight

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 3:01:16 PM   
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sure, and I trust that heightens sensitivity and caution before getting there, but upon arrival, and seeing a knife, one would hope that opens up the avenue for more non-lethal options.


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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 3:02:22 PM   
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lemme guess, wickedsdesire in yet another attempt to circumvent moderation?

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 3:21:54 PM   
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Her sten gun must have terrified them.

But that will teach the mental bitch for taking her individuality into a fight

Nobody said anything about a Sten, but then you have to go to the absurd in the hopes of making your position seem reasonable.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 3:23:21 PM   
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sure, and I trust that heightens sensitivity and caution before getting there, but upon arrival, and seeing a knife, one would hope that opens up the avenue for more non-lethal options.



That is why I mentioned flash bangs.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 5:35:58 PM   
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I don't think ive ever read of an instance of police using them in a situation like this. or for that matter, apart from tasers, we hardly ever hear stories of cops using unique and specially designed non-lethal methods to subdue mortal threats. I don't doubt they happen but itd be good to hear how.

I wonder about net guns, tranquilizers, or in this instance, why not tasers?

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 5:43:15 PM   
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I don't think ive ever read of an instance of police using them in a situation like this. or for that matter, apart from tasers, we hardly ever hear stories of cops using unique and specially designed non-lethal methods to subdue mortal threats. I don't doubt they happen but itd be good to hear how.

I wonder about net guns, tranquilizers, or in this instance, why not tasers?

Not sure, they were campus cops so they most likely don't have as much equipment as a city department.
To many people are terrified of flash bangs, they are often the first piece of "military equipment" whined about.
OBamas ban of such things are one of the reasons you don't hear about them.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 6:23:58 PM   
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From what I read, including witness statements to the reporters, this person dared the police to shoot them, and witnesses even said that the officer was backing up away from the individual when they were rushed.

Suicide by cop, and the surviving family members have a nice, winnable lawsuit, thanks to an American legal system where an idiot can sue a fast food chain because the coffee in a Styrofoam cup they got in a drive through and then put between their legs spilled and burned their crotch.

But the police are to be blamed for not handling a person with emotional problems better.

He was told a number of times to put the knife down, officers were backing away from him when he decided to rush him. What the fuck were they supposed to do, give him a hug while he cut them with the knife?


The OP wasn't about whether the guy deserved to be shot or whether the police were right to do it.

Read the OP:

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Georgia Tech Student Scout Shultz was shoot and killed by campus police but I guess it is ok
since he was white
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He made it strictly a racial issue from the outset, the implication being that police street execution of unarmed blacks is okay because they do the same to armed and wacky white people too.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 6:32:15 PM   
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Georgia Tech Student Scout Shultz was shoot and killed by campus police but I guess it is ok
since he was white.

www.thecount.com/2017/09/17/scout-schultz-shooting-video-georgia-tech...



I started to start a thread on this, what a tragic story.
Have the police collectively lost their minds?

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 6:42:01 PM   
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Suicide by cop

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 6:42:39 PM   
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Killing mentally ill people is what they are good at.


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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/18/2017 7:28:22 PM   
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Georgia Tech Student Scout Shultz was shoot and killed by campus police but I guess it is ok
since he was white.

www.thecount.com/2017/09/17/scout-schultz-shooting-video-georgia-tech...



I started to start a thread on this, what a tragic story.
Have the police collectively lost their minds?


What are they supposed to do when a madman is charging at them with a knife?

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