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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/19/2017 7:08:49 AM   
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Care to supply a link or 12. I mean if E VERY lib writer is doing articles on it, there must be bunches of them.

Or are you just full of crap as usual?

Oh please, it's in the mainstream news. I don't have to link anything that is such a big news right now, that every lib media is writing about. The angle they are portraying.

BULLSHIT.
It's not even on FOX, much less mainstream.

Maybe it's on the news in your little backwater but not the rest of the world.

Now show me where EVERY lib media is writing about it.

Or just stop lying.



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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/19/2017 8:13:01 AM   
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Let's examine a few facts - something I know most of you cannot do and something the feminists amongst you will decry as a "patriarchal imposition of reality" into your "safe space".

Myanmar has been torn by internal conflict since gaining independence from British rule in 1948. Typically, it's the communists who started the violence after deciding that for some reason they deserved to be part of the government. The post-British history of Myanmar is littered with constant infighting between various insurgencies and whatever government was active at the time.

Since the 1962 socialist coup d'etat, Myanmar has been ruled by a brutal leftist military junta. In 1988 that military junta was replaced with another one. During many decades of socialist rule, Burma has been engaged in ethnic cleansing and war with insurgent forces and it's only NOW with Aung San Suu Kyi having a central role in the government that the Leftist journalists suddenly discover a distaste for the ongoing violence within Myanmar. Naturally for the Muslims - because fuck everyone else, right?

There are multiple ethnic minorities within Myanmar who've been participants in internal strife - but at the very least you could argue they have a valid claim to being part of the country. The Rohingya on the other hand are not only invaders who refuse to abide by the country's laws, but have actively been involved in attacks upon military border posts. And given the military (again, need I remind you, SOCIALIST military) has ruled Burma for over 50 years, the fact that the military are responding with extreme prejudice should not be a surprise.

And yet, all these leftist pseudo-journalists SUDDENLY discover a need to report on human rights abuses within Myanmar when a paltry set of Muslims is involved. Where were these fuckers when Myanmar was persecuting other ethnic minorities? Or is it only newsworthy when the Islamic allies of the Left are threatened?

Oh, I forgot. Leftists are just fine with terrorism - as per Days of Rage. Never mind, Leftist fruitcakes. As you were.



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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/19/2017 8:17:12 AM   
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The unfortunate fact is that unrestrained Leftism has effectively left the Fourth Estate in tatters. There are almost no writers of any note who generate anything more than left-wing propaganda and whose commitment to partisan politics makes them unfit to act as a commentator, let alone a journalist.

Quite. News International is notorious for its heavy left wing bias.

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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/19/2017 8:38:09 AM   
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The unfortunate fact is that unrestrained Leftism has effectively left the Fourth Estate in tatters. There are almost no writers of any note who generate anything more than left-wing propaganda and whose commitment to partisan politics makes them unfit to act as a commentator, let alone a journalist.

Quite. News International is notorious for its heavy left wing bias.
The credibility of the partisan right-wing organs hardly requires attention does it? Nor do they even bother pretending impartiality.

It's the Left-wing media who are still attempting to lay claim to a level of journalistic integrity. A claim which they themselves have pretty effectively debunked over the span of the last election cycle.


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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/19/2017 10:37:51 AM   
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The unfortunate fact is that unrestrained Leftism has effectively left the Fourth Estate in tatters. There are almost no writers of any note who generate anything more than left-wing propaganda and whose commitment to partisan politics makes them unfit to act as a commentator, let alone a journalist.

Quite. News International is notorious for its heavy left wing bias.
The credibility of the partisan right-wing organs hardly requires attention does it? Nor do they even bother pretending impartiality.

It's the Left-wing media who are still attempting to lay claim to a level of journalistic integrity. A claim which they themselves have pretty effectively debunked over the span of the last election cycle.


Fox News, of course, doesn't have a tagline claiming to be fair and balanced, then.

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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/19/2017 11:21:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, after a bit of research, I have to agree that Greta is right, the Rohingya people are, according to the Burmese government illegal immigrants, and point out that they only arrived in the Arakan region in what is now Burma sometime AFTER 3000BCE. The British colonial government acknowledged that they were living in the Arakan region in what is now Burma since they began administering the Indian subcontinent and Burma.

Now then around 1430, the Burmese invaded the region and the leader of the kingdom the Rohingya had established fled to the Bengal Sultanate.

So, on a strictly historic basis, these people have a longer claim to the area than the Burmese, by about 4000 years.

But since a lot of them converted to Islam around the 8th century, who the fuck cares if the current Burmese military is hell bent on exterimating them, or chasing out of the region they have been living in for 4000 years, the did invade the region...

But so did the Burmese, the Bengal sultanate, and a half dozen minor kingdoms in the region.

But they have been illegally occupying the region known as Arakan for 4000 years plus or minus a century.

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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/19/2017 2:29:49 PM   
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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/19/2017 2:40:03 PM   
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So they did live there without problems until several dozens of generations - about six hundred years - after they started circumcising their male offsprings. That is what I expected; though it took a bit longer than I thought.

Is it monomaniac day or something?

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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/19/2017 2:52:18 PM   
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The unfortunate fact is that unrestrained Leftism has effectively left the Fourth Estate in tatters. There are almost no writers of any note who generate anything more than left-wing propaganda and whose commitment to partisan politics makes them unfit to act as a commentator, let alone a journalist.

Quite. News International is notorious for its heavy left wing bias.
The credibility of the partisan right-wing organs hardly requires attention does it? Nor do they even bother pretending impartiality.

It's the Left-wing media who are still attempting to lay claim to a level of journalistic integrity. A claim which they themselves have pretty effectively debunked over the span of the last election cycle.


Fox News, of course, doesn't have a tagline claiming to be fair and balanced, then.
Yes and the Washington Posts's "Democracy dies in darkness" is somehow less a statement of complete and utter bullshit?


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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/19/2017 2:53:43 PM   
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The unfortunate fact is that unrestrained Leftism has effectively left the Fourth Estate in tatters. There are almost no writers of any note who generate anything more than left-wing propaganda and whose commitment to partisan politics makes them unfit to act as a commentator, let alone a journalist.

Quite. News International is notorious for its heavy left wing bias.
The credibility of the partisan right-wing organs hardly requires attention does it? Nor do they even bother pretending impartiality.

It's the Left-wing media who are still attempting to lay claim to a level of journalistic integrity. A claim which they themselves have pretty effectively debunked over the span of the last election cycle.


Fox News, of course, doesn't have a tagline claiming to be fair and balanced, then.
Yes and the Washington Posts's "Democracy dies in darkness" is somehow less a statement of complete and utter bullshit?


I was pointing out that you were farting through your teeth about right wing media not pretending to impartiality. Was that not clear?

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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/19/2017 2:54:14 PM   
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Well, after a bit of research, I have to agree that Greta is right, the Rohingya people are, according to the Burmese government illegal immigrants, and point out that they only arrived in the Arakan region in what is now Burma sometime AFTER 3000BCE.
So Rohingya Muslims are somehow older than Islam itself?

You're not the full quid.


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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/19/2017 3:19:46 PM   
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Well, after a bit of research, I have to agree that Greta is right, the Rohingya people are, according to the Burmese government illegal immigrants, and point out that they only arrived in the Arakan region in what is now Burma sometime AFTER 3000BCE.
So Rohingya Muslims are somehow older than Islam itself?

You're not the full quid.



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Well, after a bit of research, I have to agree that Greta is right, the Rohingya people are, according to the Burmese government illegal immigrants, and point out that they only arrived in the Arakan region in what is now Burma sometime AFTER 3000BCE. The British colonial government acknowledged that they were living in the Arakan region in what is now Burma since they began administering the Indian subcontinent and Burma.

Now then around 1430, the Burmese invaded the region and the leader of the kingdom the Rohingya had established fled to the Bengal Sultanate.

So, on a strictly historic basis, these people have a longer claim to the area than the Burmese, by about 4000 years.

But since a lot of them converted to Islam around the 8th century, who the fuck cares if the current Burmese military is hell bent on exterimating them, or chasing out of the region they have been living in for 4000 years, the did invade the region...

But so did the Burmese, the Bengal sultanate, and a half dozen minor kingdoms in the region.

But they have been illegally occupying the region known as Arakan for 4000 years plus or minus a century.



If you would have read the entire post, you half witted moron, you would have seen that Islam showed up there in the 8th century.

But as usual, you decided to show just how challenged you are at comprehending and reading an entire post.


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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/19/2017 5:45:07 PM   
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If you would have read the entire post, you half witted moron, you would have seen that Islam showed up there in the 8th century.

But as usual, you decided to show just how challenged you are at comprehending and reading an entire post.

No, you're just wrong again. The earliest references to the Rohingya as an ethnic group date to the 8th century - certainly not 3000 BC. And they were never anything other than Muslims. Basically Arabs who brought their murderous culture with them and married local women.

Essentially it's the usual story of Islam spreading to a region and bringing hate, murder and suicide bombings with them. As a creed, it needs to be exterminated before it plunges the world into an abyss from which it can never recover.


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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/19/2017 6:59:54 PM   
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If you would have read the entire post, you half witted moron, you would have seen that Islam showed up there in the 8th century.

But as usual, you decided to show just how challenged you are at comprehending and reading an entire post.

No, you're just wrong again. The earliest references to the Rohingya as an ethnic group date to the 8th century - certainly not 3000 BC. And they were never anything other than Muslims. Basically Arabs who brought their murderous culture with them and married local women.

Essentially it's the usual story of Islam spreading to a region and bringing hate, murder and suicide bombings with them. As a creed, it needs to be exterminated before it plunges the world into an abyss from which it can never recover.



Pick up a goddamn history book dealing with the Indian subcontinent cultures, because, you ignorant ass, you will find that the people that are presently known as the Rohingya have been in the goddamn region since the year I gave.

Your line of islamophobic bullshit is just as out of touch with reality as Greta's, if it does not fit with your way of thinking or your bigoted philosophy, even if accepted by historians the world over, you throw it out.

By the way, if you had the ability to comprehend a few subtle, yet important facts, you would discover that their language has been spoken in the region far longer than any other.

Think of it this way, the are the same as the Apache, which is not their name for the people, but one adopted by and used to describe them which is a Navajo word meaning 'the enemy.' They refer to themselves as the Nde.

As far as the Rohingya, it too is a label placed on the people by late comers to the region. Invaders do that you know.

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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/20/2017 4:54:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		It is well known that among populations that have practised circumcision for a fair number of generations the incidence of congenital diseases is extremely high.

Naturally we may expect the same to be true in the circumcising Rohingya population. By raping the non-Muslim Myanmar females the Rohingya males therefore may be expected to increase the frequency of congenital diseases in the non-Muslim population of Myanmar. This is genetic warfare.

Unfortunately I could not find any mention of congenital diseases among the Rohingya. I therefore looked at the situation in the circumcising population in the neighbouring Bangladesh.

I found this article about congenital heart disease in newborn children in a hospital in Bangladesh. We may assume that it is indicative for the frequency of the many other congenital diseases in the Bangladesh and Rohingya populations.

"Incidence of Congenital Heart Disease among Hospital Live Birth in a Tertiary Hospital of Bangladesh"
https://www.banglajol.info/index.php/CARDIO/article/view/8199

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Incidence of congenital heart disease is 8-10/1000 live birth which is established by many studies carried out in many centers worldwide. ...
One hundred forty two babies out of 5668 live birth had CHD, ie, 25/1000 live births. Incidence of CHD was higher in pre terms as compared to full term live birth. ...


Whereas some people may be of the opinion that it is quite all right for Rohingya circumcised males to rape the Myanmar non-muslim females, I can well imagine that the Myanmar non-muslim population objects to the genetic warfare they are subjected to by the Rohingya population.

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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/20/2017 5:59:26 AM   
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The unfortunate fact is that unrestrained Leftism has effectively left the Fourth Estate in tatters. There are almost no writers of any note who generate anything more than left-wing propaganda and whose commitment to partisan politics makes them unfit to act as a commentator, let alone a journalist.

Let's examine a few facts - something I know most of you cannot do and something the feminists amongst you will decry as a "patriarchal imposition of reality" into your "safe space".

Myanmar has been torn by internal conflict since gaining independence from British rule in 1948. Typically, it's the communists who started the violence after deciding that for some reason they deserved to be part of the government. The post-British history of Myanmar is littered with constant infighting between various insurgencies and whatever government was active at the time.

Since the 1962 socialist coup d'etat, Myanmar has been ruled by a brutal leftist military junta. In 1988 that military junta was replaced with another one. During many decades of socialist rule, Burma has been engaged in ethnic cleansing and war with insurgent forces and it's only NOW with Aung San Suu Kyi having a central role in the government that the Leftist journalists suddenly discover a distaste for the ongoing violence within Myanmar. Naturally for the Muslims - because fuck everyone else, right?

There are multiple ethnic minorities within Myanmar who've been participants in internal strife - but at the very least you could argue they have a valid claim to being part of the country. The Rohingya on the other hand are not only invaders who refuse to abide by the country's laws, but have actively been involved in attacks upon military border posts. And given the military (again, need I remind you, SOCIALIST military) has ruled Burma for over 50 years, the fact that the military are responding with extreme prejudice should not be a surprise.

And yet, all these leftist pseudo-journalists SUDDENLY discover a need to report on human rights abuses within Myanmar when a paltry set of Muslims is involved. Where were these fuckers when Myanmar was persecuting other ethnic minorities? Or is it only newsworthy when the Islamic allies of the Left are threatened?

Oh, I forgot. Leftists are just fine with terrorism - as per Days of Rage. Never mind, Leftist fruitcakes. As you were.



Where was Myanmar when Bush laid out his Axis of Evil?

And journalism is a mess everywhere -- including very much the right wing media with the liberal media.

You know things are bad when people would rather flee to Bangladesh.

I'm disappointed in Aung San Suu Kyi. I don't know whether this was simply a political necessity, or whether she has her head in the sand, but I don't understand the instance of pretending her speech was saintly.

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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/20/2017 6:11:43 AM   
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https://youtu.be/JZl0z7aMVeg

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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/20/2017 8:05:01 AM   
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Something to ponder...

https://youtu.be/JZl0z7aMVeg

This dude forgot that Muhammad himself indulge in violence. So is he saying Muhammad, the Founder of Islam, is not a true Muslim? *Gasp*!!!

I don't think the Dalai Lamai have studied Islam.

I mean let's compare Buddha and Muhammad.

Buddha = Rich Prince, inline to be King, could be living in luxury, have loads of women dying to fuck him, gave up all his riches and wealth to live in poverty, giving up all worldly desires and just spend his life being harmless to others and meditate, no sex, no wife, celibate, no life, no fun. He didn't even want followers. People just felt inspired by him and just decided to follow him. Zero killings, Zero war mongering. (Military of Myammar are not attacking the Rohingyas in the name of Buddhism too! They are doing it as authority of the country, getting rid of illegal immigrants who were causing trouble and have raped and pillage their people's villages.)

Mohammad = Man with hallucinations that grew up in a city of Pagans, where he kept claiming that Angel Gabriel of Christianity is talking to him, so the Pagans mock him and make fun of him, he got angry and left, married a rich wife 30 yrs older than him to be his sugar mommy. After she died, inherit her wealth, married a 6 yr old, had sex with her at 9 yr old and then start waging war against the Pagans who made fun of him in the past. Started killing those who refuse to convert to Islam.

Right...., the role models are like world's apart. Mohammad was sex hungry and had many wives. Thought so mighty of himself sexually that he teaches men that to refuse sex to his wife is a form of appropriate punishment for her. Buddha won't even fuck or touch a woman.

That's why I am so annoyed people use Buddhism as an excuse to why even peaceful people can be violent, to make excuses of Islamic violence. BUT neglecting the fact that, none of these Myanmar military is killing in the name of Buddhism.

They are enforcing authorities of their country to get rid of illegal immigrants from Bangladesh. Their way of chasing them back to where they come from is very heavy handed, as most Asian Armies are like that. China is EXACTLY the same. And Japan and Korea would be too! It's a different world out here. No mercy to illegals.

It's like, US and Canada, Jails have beds, TV, some even keys to their own cell. So much luxury. Jails in Asia is like, there is no bed. Sleep on hard concrete floor. No pillows. Nothing. No TV. Seriously, like no comfort at all. We aren't kind to criminals.

Buddha himself probably lived in less luxury by CHOICE than people in jail in the US or Canada. I mean, he walks around begging for food, so he eats whatever scraps people give him. He does not accept money. Only food. And he sleeps anywhere on the streets. No bed, No shelter. So you know when the person they look up to, lived so basic and simple, like people below poverty line. Their idea of what is acceptable living conditions is like Buddha's life.

This is why Buddhism is not attractive to most in the world. To be a Buddhist is like self-inflicted poverty.

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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/20/2017 8:14:01 AM   
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RE: Myammar Situation - 9/21/2017 4:59:54 AM   
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/pence-presses-burma-u-n-end-rohingya-violence-173341241.html

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