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susie10 -> Women "sleep with" minors, men "rape" them. (9/21/2017 11:22:10 PM)

http://nypost.com/2017/09/21/teacher-allegedly-slept-with-4-teen-students-2-in-same-night/

Depending on the gender, most news talks about it differently.




Lucylastic -> RE: Women "sleep with" minors, men "rape" them. (9/21/2017 11:25:26 PM)

I hope she gets a long long prison sentence.




bounty44 -> RE: Women "sleep with" minors, men "rape" them. (9/22/2017 6:40:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: susie10
Depending on the gender, most news talks about it differently.


that would make for a fantastic research project.




NotFiftyShades -> RE: Women "sleep with" minors, men "rape" them. (9/22/2017 7:07:26 AM)

I wonder how many feminists will bring up these cases when talking about "rape culture"?




Awareness -> RE: Women "sleep with" minors, men "rape" them. (9/22/2017 7:35:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I hope she gets a long long prison sentence.
She won't. Women don't.




Awareness -> RE: Women "sleep with" minors, men "rape" them. (9/22/2017 7:37:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: NotFiftyShades

I wonder how many feminists will bring up these cases when talking about "rape culture"?
On the contrary - feminists will assert that it's impossible for a woman to rape a man - as men are granted power by the patriarchy and therefore crimes committed against men simply do not count.

I'm sure they'll find some way to explain this as the students raping the teacher - via patriarchy.

When it comes right down to it, feminists are horrible people.




Lucylastic -> RE: Women "sleep with" minors, men "rape" them. (9/22/2017 8:23:03 AM)

omg the irony/




Lucylastic -> RE: Women "sleep with" minors, men "rape" them. (9/22/2017 9:34:34 AM)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/01/20/more-teachers-are-having-sex-with-their-students-heres-how-schools-can-stop-them/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.271052144b10

A 14-year-old student in Florida wrote his cellphone number on a classroom chalkboard because he wanted a classmate he liked to call him. The student indeed was contacted – not by the girl but allegedly by his 32-year-old teacher. Within days, police said, the two were involved in a sexual relationship.

In Pennsylvania, a 33-year-old teacher approached a 17-year-old student at a school dance and began flirting with him, police said. The married teacher then sent the student sexual text messages and photos, along with a video of herself performing lewd acts, according to news reports. The relationship escalated, and the teacher pleaded guilty last month to institutional sexual assault.

Unfortunately, these kinds of stories are becoming more common across the country. In 2014 alone, there were 781 reported cases of teachers and other school employees accused or convicted of sexual relationships with students. My firm, Drive West Communications, has been tracking news reports of sexual misconduct by educators for more than a year. Every week has brought news of 15 young people, on average, who were sexually victimized by the educators entrusted with protecting them. That’s an abhorrent rate and a trend that deserves far more attention from school leaders and policy makers.

In Texas, home to the largest number of teacher sexual misconduct cases in the country, investigations into alleged inappropriate teacher-student relationships has grown 27 percent over the past three years, to 179. Kentucky schools reported more than 45 sexual relationships between teachers and students in 2011, up from 25 just a year earlier. And a surge has been reported in Alabama, where the state investigated 31 cases during the year ending July 2013, nearly triple the number it had investigated just four years earlier.

That data confirmed the disturbing shift I have witnessed while working in education. In the late 1990s, I was press secretary for the Houston Independent School District, one of the largest districts in the country. In 2001, I served as chief of staff at the U.S. Department of Education. In those roles, I would hear about teachers who became sexually involved with students – but at that time, those cases seemed rare.

Since then, two things have become popular and had a massive effect on the prevalence of sexual misconduct in schools: social media and text messaging. Facebook, Instagram and Snapchat didn’t exist 15 years ago, and the number of teenagers with their own cell phones has ballooned. Nearly 80 percent of youth ages 12 to 17 own a cellphone, and 94 percent now have a Facebook account. Classroom sexual predators have been exploiting these new, unsupervised modes of communication to develop improper relationships with students out of sight of parents and principals.

These instantaneous, omnipresent and discreet connections have created an open gateway for inappropriate behavior. Last year, at least 281 school employees — 36 percent of those accused or convicted of an inappropriate relationship with a student – were reported to have used social media to start or continue those relationships. I suspect the percentage actually is significantly higher, since news accounts don’t always reveal when social media was a factor in these interactions.

There’s no shortage of examples:

In Louisiana, a school vice principal was charged after allegedly soliciting nude pictures from a 15-year-old student on Facebook.
Authorities said a 54-year-old Oregon teacher exchanged more than 1,800 text messages with a 16-year-old student, many of them sexually explicit, before the teacher was convicted and sentenced to prison in August.
A 31-year-old Florida teacher was charged after police said she allegedly used Facebook to solicit sex from at least four students.
A Pennsylvania math teacher offered a student extra credit if she texted him nude pictures. He was sentenced to prison for up to 23 months.
And a 33-year-old counselor in Texas allegedly started talking to a 12th-grade student on Instagram and then had sex with the student, authorities reported.

much more at the link.







DarknessBeloved -> RE: Women "sleep with" minors, men "rape" them. (9/22/2017 10:05:46 AM)

The article omits the ages of the “4” students so what age were they?




Lucylastic -> RE: Women "sleep with" minors, men "rape" them. (9/22/2017 10:20:03 AM)

The first text that art teacher Jessie Goline allegedly sent her student was about class.

Then they started texting more frequently and soon their messages were no longer class-related, according to an affidavit filed in the circuit court of Craighead County, Ark. Sometime early last year, Goline picked up the student — who was not yet 18 — from the small city in northeast Arkansas where she was his teacher and drove him to her home about 45 minutes away in Jonesboro. There, Arkansas State police say, they had sex.

The same night, in the same apartment, Goline, 25, allegedly also had sex twice with another student.

Goline was arrested Wednesday and charged with one count of first-degree sexual assault. Police say that between January 2016 and April 2016, the former teacher had sex with four students from two school districts. One was allegedly dropped off at her apartment by a friend. Another told investigators that Goline commented on “how good he looked” in class and texted him a picture of herself wearing a thong, according to court documents.

She will be charged with one count of first-degree sexual assault because only one of the students was not 18 when they had sex, prosecuting attorney Scott Ellington said.

[She chose to die so she could give birth. Now her newborn is dead, too.]

He believes news of the illicit affairs began to circulate when students started telling others.

Jessie Goline. (Craighead County Sheriff’s Office)
“Boys brag,” Ellington said.

Goline would confess to the improper contact in April at Marked Tree High School, according to the affidavit.

Barbara Wilburn, the men’s basketball coach at a high school in northeast Arkansas, had heard a parent intended to cause “bodily harm” to a teacher who allegedly had sex with multiple students, according to the affidavit.

Wilburn went to the principal, who rushed to alert the superintendent. As Wilburn and the principal were filing the report, Goline herself burst into the principal’s office.

She was crying.

When the principal, Matt Wright, asked Goline what was wrong, she shook her head. “No, no,” she said, according to the affidavit.

Wright pressed Goline, asking her whether there was something she needed to tell him.

“I’m not going to lose my husband,” she tearfully responded.

Goline allegedly told the principal and coach that she had sex with four students — three from the Marked Tree School District and another from the nearby East Poinsett County High School.
Officials at both school districts did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/21/boys-brag-police-say-art-teacher-was-caught-having-sex-with-four-students/?undefined=&utm_term=.dc597cc75659&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1




vincentML -> RE: Women "sleep with" minors, men "rape" them. (9/22/2017 7:07:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I hope she gets a long long prison sentence.

Oh, no. . . . mitigating circumstances. A stressed teacher at the beginning of a new school year obviously suffering from PTDS.

Seriously, will someone explain the extreme damage caused by her actions on the 17 year old. How does this warrant a ten year jail sentence?




MercTech -> RE: Women "sleep with" minors, men "rape" them. (9/22/2017 7:11:55 PM)

Hmmm, checking references; if the boys were 16 or older; it wasn't classed as rape. But, for having intimate contact with a student; the teacher can lose her teaching license.

If the kids were over 16; the D.A. would have to prove coercion to get a rape conviction.

There is an Arkansas law on the books making it a criminal offense for a High School teacher to have sex with a student under the age of 21. But, that has been challenged in court and stricken because the age limit was higher than the age of consent and would constitute an abridgement of the rights of consenting adults.

It looks like the NY Post assumed the laws in Arkansas were identical to the ones in New York when they aren't.
Now I understand why the teacher had such a low bail. She just might not be legally guilty of anything unless one of the boys was younger than 16 at the time they had sex.




Lucylastic -> RE: Women "sleep with" minors, men "rape" them. (9/22/2017 7:37:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I hope she gets a long long prison sentence.

Oh, no. . . . mitigating circumstances. A stressed teacher at the beginning of a new school year obviously suffering from PTDS.

Seriously, will someone explain the extreme damage caused by her actions on the 17 year old. How does this warrant a ten year jail sentence?

Yes, that was my response because teachers just shouldnt fuck their students... sorry thats been hammered into my moral fibre at an early age.

Didnt see the ages of the "boys" until I went searching for less "dramatic facts"






MasterJaguar01 -> RE: Women "sleep with" minors, men "rape" them. (9/22/2017 9:12:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I hope she gets a long long prison sentence.

Oh, no. . . . mitigating circumstances. A stressed teacher at the beginning of a new school year obviously suffering from PTDS.

Seriously, will someone explain the extreme damage caused by her actions on the 17 year old. How does this warrant a ten year jail sentence?

Yes, that was my response because teachers just shouldnt fuck their students... sorry thats been hammered into my moral fibre at an early age.

Didnt see the ages of the "boys" until I went searching for less "dramatic facts"





Just a note...

Mary K Letourneau was first attracted to Vili Fualaau when he was in 2nd grade.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Women "sleep with" minors, men "rape" them. (9/23/2017 1:05:23 AM)

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feminists will assert that it's impossible for a woman to rape a man - as men are granted power by the patriarchy and therefore crimes committed against men simply do not count.

Funny, I am a feminist and I would never assert any of those things. Are you certain you know what you are talking about?




Greta75 -> RE: Women "sleep with" minors, men "rape" them. (9/23/2017 2:00:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: susie10

http://nypost.com/2017/09/21/teacher-allegedly-slept-with-4-teen-students-2-in-same-night/

Depending on the gender, most news talks about it differently.


Um...., let's all remember that President Macron also had sex with his 40 yr old teacher at 15 yr old and then married her anyway, and look at them now. She is his first lady.

I don't see rape in these situation. In France, all this would have been legal.

Now if she drug the boys, kidnapped them and fucked them against their will. I will agree that's rape. It's looking very consensual to me, especially with text message like, "I would like to have sex with you but unfortunately you are too young." Reverse psychology to get the boys to wanna fuck her right?

I mean if a male teacher text a female teenager that he wants to have sex with her but she is too young, chances are, the female teenager will not continue to have sex with him. Unless she wants sex with him.

The fact the First Lady of France is officially an educator who had sex with her teenage student. Has brought a new acceptance to younger males and older ladies sex.

While I am not saying that she shouldn't be punished. Because her role as an educator means, it's unprofessional to have sex with students.

But to say this is rape, still doesn't sound like rape. Sounds very consensual. Teenage boys excited to fuck their teacher.

I'd need to know precisely how is this rape.

On the other hand, in my country, teenage boys have been falsely accusing their male teacher of molestation and rape in revenge against teachers they don't like. Interestingly, it's the teenage boys who are doing it. One teacher recently got acquitted, infact quite a few did. One boy in the past confessed to making it up.





Edwird -> RE: Women "sleep with" minors, men "rape" them. (9/23/2017 2:03:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
feminists will assert that it's impossible for a woman to rape a man -


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick[
Funny, I am a feminist and I would never assert any of those things. Are you certain you know what you are talking about?


It's not just that.

The whole mantra from from annoyness and his ilk is that women are inferior in every regard. So he and his cohort are way ahead of the feminists in claiming that it's impossible for a woman to do any harm to a man, even as the feminists never claimed such in the first place.






bounty44 -> RE: Women "sleep with" minors, men "rape" them. (9/23/2017 4:02:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
I'd need to know precisely how is this rape.


greta we often use the word "rape" to refer to "statutory rape" also.

the latter refers to sexual contact with someone below the age of consent. by legal definition, a minor cannot give consent and therefore any sexual contact with an adult is rape.




Greta75 -> RE: Women "sleep with" minors, men "rape" them. (9/23/2017 11:21:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75
I'd need to know precisely how is this rape.


greta we often use the word "rape" to refer to "statutory rape" also.

the latter refers to sexual contact with someone below the age of consent. by legal definition, a minor cannot give consent and therefore any sexual contact with an adult is rape.


Oh, you are talking about 'statutory rape', which is not really real rape. Underage consensual sex.

I think people need to insert "statutory rape" in all such consensual cases to make a clear point that, it wasn't real rape.

I often pondered if two 13 yr olds have sex with each other. Who gets in trouble?




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