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nd whom did Clooney blame? He hasn’t said that much, but he gave an interview to the Daily Beast this week. It was mostly about his movie, but somehow his fundraising and endorsements for a failed presidential candidate came up: “Do you feel like history will look kindly on Hillary Clinton?”

And just as he’d done in his letter backing the candidate, more than a year ago, Clooney expressed his disappointment briefly and bluntly.

“She was more qualified than even her husband was when he was elected president,” he said. “But she’s not as good at communicating things. That’s simply true. When she got up and gave a speech, it didn’t soar.”

Clooney called Clinton “the right person to side with.” But he admitted: “It was frustrating because I never saw her elevate her game. I never saw it. And I had a lot of liberal friends who were like, ‘She’s not good at this.’ And I see that, and I understand it.”
Hillary Clinton blames many things for her loss. George Clooney blames her ‘frustrating’ speeches.

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George Clooney pulls no punches as to who is really to blame.

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nd whom did Clooney blame? He hasn’t said that much, but he gave an interview to the Daily Beast this week. It was mostly about his movie, but somehow his fundraising and endorsements for a failed presidential candidate came up: “Do you feel like history will look kindly on Hillary Clinton?”

And just as he’d done in his letter backing the candidate, more than a year ago, Clooney expressed his disappointment briefly and bluntly.

“She was more qualified than even her husband was when he was elected president,” he said. “But she’s not as good at communicating things. That’s simply true. When she got up and gave a speech, it didn’t soar.”

Clooney called Clinton “the right person to side with.” But he admitted: “It was frustrating because I never saw her elevate her game. I never saw it. And I had a lot of liberal friends who were like, ‘She’s not good at this.’ And I see that, and I understand it.”
Hillary Clinton blames many things for her loss. George Clooney blames her ‘frustrating’ speeches.

You have to admit, when Trump gave a speech, he evoked passion.

Hillary on the other hand gave a speech and evoked.... heh.

Even when he endorsed her run, he didnt call here a great or even good politician.

Donald Trump at least was passionate, albeit wrongly directed in some cases, in his run for the oval office.

Hillary, well while good at pointing out what she saw as wrong with the GOP, did not really have something to get passionate about. It was basically, they are wrong, this is wrong, that is wrong....

Lets face it, the American voter looks for the 'gotcha' hook when they decide who to vote for.

They vote for whoever can make the most convincing 'good ol days' case and who is to blame for those days being gone, or the person that promises some new 'change' or better days to come.

The problem is that since Reagan, there has not been anyone that could actually make their plan work. Trump has crashed and burned on the GOP healthcare repeal and reform, pissed off god knows how many of his own base and a number of countries, and the dems in response can only point fingers without offering anything to prove their way is better.

Its still polarized politics as usual.

Washington and every state capital for that matter is in dire need of a political enema.

This country needs a change, and it is not a change on party lines, but we need to leave the extreme right and find a middle ground that allows things to get done. It wont be perfect, but it will be a working solution to the shit going on in our capitals today.

Making a compromise is not a failure, it is a solution. A failure is when you try to do something and have half the people you need to get it done so pissed off they wont talk to you so it sits and lingers in limbo.

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George Clooney pulls no punches as to who is really to blame.

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nd whom did Clooney blame? He hasn’t said that much, but he gave an interview to the Daily Beast this week. It was mostly about his movie, but somehow his fundraising and endorsements for a failed presidential candidate came up: “Do you feel like history will look kindly on Hillary Clinton?”

And just as he’d done in his letter backing the candidate, more than a year ago, Clooney expressed his disappointment briefly and bluntly.

“She was more qualified than even her husband was when he was elected president,” he said. “But she’s not as good at communicating things. That’s simply true. When she got up and gave a speech, it didn’t soar.”

Clooney called Clinton “the right person to side with.” But he admitted: “It was frustrating because I never saw her elevate her game. I never saw it. And I had a lot of liberal friends who were like, ‘She’s not good at this.’ And I see that, and I understand it.”
Hillary Clinton blames many things for her loss. George Clooney blames her ‘frustrating’ speeches.

You have to admit, when Trump gave a speech, he evoked passion.

Hillary on the other hand gave a speech and evoked.... heh.

Even when he endorsed her run, he didnt call here a great or even good politician.

Donald Trump at least was passionate, albeit wrongly directed in some cases, in his run for the oval office.

Hillary, well while good at pointing out what she saw as wrong with the GOP, did not really have something to get passionate about. It was basically, they are wrong, this is wrong, that is wrong....

Lets face it, the American voter looks for the 'gotcha' hook when they decide who to vote for.

They vote for whoever can make the most convincing 'good ol days' case and who is to blame for those days being gone, or the person that promises some new 'change' or better days to come.

The problem is that since Reagan, there has not been anyone that could actually make their plan work. Trump has crashed and burned on the GOP healthcare repeal and reform, pissed off god knows how many of his own base and a number of countries, and the dems in response can only point fingers without offering anything to prove their way is better.

Its still polarized politics as usual.

Washington and every state capital for that matter is in dire need of a political enema.

This country needs a change, and it is not a change on party lines, but we need to leave the extreme right and find a middle ground that allows things to get done. It wont be perfect, but it will be a working solution to the shit going on in our capitals today.

Making a compromise is not a failure, it is a solution. A failure is when you try to do something and have half the people you need to get it done so pissed off they wont talk to you so it sits and lingers in limbo.

All great points....

I ask the question.... When does Hilary EVER NOT blame everyone else for her campaign loss.

Even Sean Hannity, who can't seem to articulate anything beyond a second grade level, articulated the long list of people to blame other than herself.

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He gave legitimacy to anger hate, violent rhetoric, and racism.

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“Evoked passion” I think not! His monosyllabic rhetoric of hate riled up his gatherings of the-pure (google that), waifs, strays, supremacists, the bitter and twisted minds.
I further believe a vast army or Russian troll-bots on facebook and twitter cost HRC millions of votes.

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As for the Russians. If they were campaigning so hard against her, then how did she win the popular vote? More likely that they were campaigning on her behalf since Democrats traditionally are Socialist leaning slightly to Communist. In spirit Hillary should have been Putin's favorite once Bernie didn't get the nomination.

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As for the Russians. If they were campaigning so hard against her, then how did she win the popular vote? More likely that they were campaigning on her behalf since Democrats traditionally are Socialist leaning slightly to Communist. In spirit Hillary should have been Putin's favorite once Bernie didn't get the nomination.

How could you possibly think that posting this insanity was a good idea?

So the Russians gave the Hillary and DNC emails to WikiLeaks to help Hillary?
They created fake news tying her to a pedophile ring because pedophilia wins votes?
Trump was gushing over Putin, stopping just short of full on sexual innuendo for an entire year because he was helping Hillary?

THINK.

Russia hasn't been communist OR socialist for decades now... where exactly have you been?
They're now an oligarchy mostly run by the mafia. The people tolerate Putin's fascism and in turn he improves the economy-- that's the deal.

There is absolutely nothing socialist, communist, liberal or even left-moderate about Russia.

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So the Russians were pro Trump, and Hillary got the popular vote? If so then they obviously weren't very effective and we can just stop worrying about the Russians entirely.

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So the Russians were pro Trump, and Hillary got the popular vote? If so then they obviously weren't very effective and we can just stop worrying about the Russians entirely.

Sort of like if someone tries to kill you and fails, then they didn't commit a crime?
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He gave legitimacy to anger hate, violent rhetoric, and racism.
Passionate is the last word I would call it, even tho it fits the term
Re Hillary, She did take blame, LOL she blamed everyone else too. PS. WHen has the scrotus ever taken blame for something ONLY he did.
You missed the misogyny, disinformation, and decades of hate against her, thats "passion" of a sort, but its not pleasant "passion"

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As for the Russians. If they were campaigning so hard against her, then how did she win the popular vote? More likely that they were campaigning on her behalf since Democrats traditionally are Socialist leaning slightly to Communist. In spirit Hillary should have been Putin's favorite once Bernie didn't get the nomination.

How could you possibly think that posting this insanity was a good idea?

So the Russians gave the Hillary and DNC emails to WikiLeaks to help Hillary?
They created fake news tying her to a pedophile ring because pedophilia wins votes?
Trump was gushing over Putin, stopping just short of full on sexual innuendo for an entire year because he was helping Hillary?

THINK.

Russia hasn't been communist OR socialist for decades now... where exactly have you been?
They're now an oligarchy mostly run by the mafia. The people tolerate Putin's fascism and in turn he improves the economy-- that's the deal.

There is absolutely nothing socialist, communist, liberal or even left-moderate about Russia.

So the Russians were pro Trump, and Hillary got the popular vote? If so then they obviously weren't very effective and we can just stop worrying about the Russians entirely.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
This country needs a change, and it is not a change on party lines, but we need to leave the extreme right and find a middle ground that allows things to get done. It wont be perfect, but it will be a working solution to the shit going on in our capitals today.

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Making a compromise is not a failure, it is a solution. A failure is when you try to do something and have half the people you need to get it done so pissed off they wont talk to you so it sits and lingers in limbo.

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ORIGINAL: Made2Obey


So the Russians were pro Trump, and Hillary got the popular vote? If so then they obviously weren't very effective and we can just stop worrying about the Russians entirely.