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Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms


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Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms - 9/29/2017 6:48:30 AM   
MasterObsidiann


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Status: offline 		The details are more than a little hazy but the key points:
Corporation tax slashed to 20%, and he will budge not one percentage higher.
2.2 Trillion dollars of cuts over the next ten years which will be paid for by the tooth fairy.

I have only seen one of his Tax returns - where he paid $30 million dollars. Under the new legislation he would have paid a mere $5 million dollars. Exactly who would pay for the missing 25 million and 2.2 trillion?
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RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and R... - 9/29/2017 7:01:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		there is no such thing as a tax CUT, its a fantasy, there is only tax SHIFTING to someone else, thats what makes american politics so much fun.

Combine that with every time someone tries to shut down da gubmint or reduce taxes they punish the people by cutting their services first to insure gumbint employees are not affected

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RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and R... - 9/29/2017 7:18:42 AM   
MasterObsidiann


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Status: offline 		One person shifts his tax burden to 10-1000's of others or 10-1000s people shift their tax burden to one singular other?

Spit it out!

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RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and R... - 9/29/2017 7:37:00 AM   
Made2Obey


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Status: offline 		Why do you care? No matter what happens with US taxes it won't affect you.
It's just not your issue.

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RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and R... - 9/29/2017 8:04:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		sorry you dont have any cause to keep non americans out of topics, or from making topics.
learn it.
You can ignore it, you can argue it, you can claim what you wish, it will never or has ever stopped non americans from posting anything.
As a topic it is relevant.



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RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and R... - 9/29/2017 8:10:17 AM   
Made2Obey


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RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and R... - 9/29/2017 8:22:41 AM   
MasterObsidiann


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Status: offline 		Everyone should care about the tax burden in the developed world as it sets a level playing field for the quality of life of humanity. Your Mr Trump brags about this whilst looking to cull 80% of his one tax return.

Tell me, all these millions of jobs and foreign billions of dollars of investments he has created are there any incentives: tax breaks, dodgy loans, trade wars?
(Jobs in Belfast could be at risk after the US opted to impose a 220% import tariff on Bombardier's C-Series jet).

Good to know all your American companies pay the full UK Corp Tax and Tax in the UK.

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RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and R... - 9/29/2017 8:24:42 AM   
Lucylastic


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Its also untrue, but you wont see it.
And it wont stop any of us from posting, no matter what you think or say.
Sorry
But you can hide us, or ignore us.
Its up to you.

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RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and R... - 9/29/2017 8:29:32 AM   
MasterObsidiann


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RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and R... - 9/29/2017 8:36:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterObsidiann

The details are more than a little hazy but the key points:
Corporation tax slashed to 20%, and he will budge not one percentage higher.
2.2 Trillion dollars of cuts over the next ten years which will be paid for by the tooth fairy.

I have only seen one of his Tax returns - where he paid $30 million dollars. Under the new legislation he would have paid a mere $5 million dollars. Exactly who would pay for the missing 25 million and 2.2 trillion?



Need clearer details. But I think this is inline with encouraging companies to come back to the USA.

The problem is US is in so much debt. My country always tax companies very low. And basically, everyone is tax low. Even the rich! It worked out. But we have the surpluses. The low corporate tax is to make sure companies chose us as base in Asia. And the low income tax makes expats from western countries laughing like hell here as it's like peanuts compared to what they pay at home. Makes them pretty much, over all, more money in their pocket and companies also don't get tax much. Everyone wins when the country is in healthy surpluses by the multi billions.

I am unsure how will Trump balance the cut tax to finding a way to reduce debt though. We will see. They got the debt problem to solve.


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RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and R... - 9/29/2017 8:47:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Made2Obey

As a commenter on internal US affairs you are irrelevant.


I haven't gone back to check, but I don't remember you ever whining, screaming, or stamping your feet about Greta posting on topics of American politics. Did I miss something, or does she get a pass because she is pro-Trump?

By the way, she has already posted on this thread, so here's your chance to show us you aren't a hypocrite.

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RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and R... - 9/29/2017 9:13:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterObsidiann

One person shifts his tax burden to 10-1000's of others or 10-1000s people shift their tax burden to one singular other?

Spit it out!



and that matters or changes the point how?

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RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and R... - 9/29/2017 9:18:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: igor2003


quote:

ORIGINAL: Made2Obey

As a commenter on internal US affairs you are irrelevant.


I haven't gone back to check, but I don't remember you ever whining, screaming, or stamping your feet about Greta posting on topics of American politics. Did I miss something, or does she get a pass because she is pro-Trump?

By the way, she has already posted on this thread, so here's your chance to show us you aren't a hypocrite.



it should be a standard complaint since we have mobs of brits and brit political posers that take issue with everything that is not constructed brit.

Take those assinine turnabouts someone is lining their pockets building when in 'most' places 4 cheap assed yield signs and slow to 35 would do the same thing.

thank your brit overlords and their pals for that shit.

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RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and R... - 9/29/2017 9:23:28 AM   
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RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and R... - 9/29/2017 9:40:49 AM   
MasterObsidiann


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Status: offline 		You brought it up so you tell us all and I will get back to you and your small shrieking bitch incomplete brain.
I would like that.

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RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and R... - 9/29/2017 12:33:47 PM   
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there is no such thing as a tax CUT, its a fantasy, there is only tax SHIFTING to someone else, thats what makes american politics so much fun.

Combine that with every time someone tries to shut down da gubmint or reduce taxes they punish the people by cutting their services first to insure gumbint employees are not affected

You still making excuses for the zionist bitch, given that?

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RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and R... - 9/29/2017 1:41:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterObsidiann

The details are more than a little hazy but the key points:
Corporation tax slashed to 20%, and he will budge not one percentage higher.
2.2 Trillion dollars of cuts over the next ten years which will be paid for by the tooth fairy.

I have only seen one of his Tax returns - where he paid $30 million dollars. Under the new legislation he would have paid a mere $5 million dollars. Exactly who would pay for the missing 25 million and 2.2 trillion?



I've been waiting for the uneducated to begin espousing their opinions on this subject.

(I haven't been let down...I can't actually think of a time when I have been to date).

First...whether he (or anyone in the entire country, for that matter) passes copies of their (or his) tax return around...it changes nothing as to his tax.....wait for it...."proposal".

Second...(see above)...it's a tax "PROPOSAL".

(It's not law).

THIRD......he has stated UNEQUIVOCALLY.....it is a "PROPOSAL"....that the CONGRESS will fill in the details.

There are NO "Trump's big tax cuts" because there is not YET a new tax LAW. (There isn't even a BILL).

IF...under Trumps auspices....there becomes a new tax LAW....it will be a LAW....that was BUILT by CONGRESS....(including Democrats....Independents and.....Republicans).....who will then place a new tax BILL.....on the presidents desk for him to sign in to LAW....(that....for an extra dose of clarity....he DID NOT WRITE!!!!!).

Get it?

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RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and R... - 9/29/2017 2:28:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterObsidiann

The details are more than a little hazy but the key points:
Corporation tax slashed to 20%, and he will budge not one percentage higher.
2.2 Trillion dollars of cuts over the next ten years which will be paid for by the tooth fairy.

I have only seen one of his Tax returns - where he paid $30 million dollars. Under the new legislation he would have paid a mere $5 million dollars. Exactly who would pay for the missing 25 million and 2.2 trillion?



I've been waiting for the uneducated to begin espousing their opinions on this subject.

(I haven't been let down...I can't actually think of a time when I have been to date).

First...whether he (or anyone in the entire country, for that matter) passes copies of their (or his) tax return around...it changes nothing as to his tax.....wait for it...."proposal".

Second...(see above)...it's a tax "PROPOSAL".

(It's not law).

THIRD......he has stated UNEQUIVOCALLY.....it is a "PROPOSAL"....that the CONGRESS will fill in the details.

There are NO "Trump's big tax cuts" because there is not YET a new tax LAW. (There isn't even a BILL).

IF...under Trumps auspices....there becomes a new tax LAW....it will be a LAW....that was BUILT by CONGRESS....(including Democrats....Independents and.....Republicans).....who will then place a new tax BILL.....on the presidents desk for him to sign in to LAW....(that....for an extra dose of clarity....he DID NOT WRITE!!!!!).

Get it?

You would be quite correct but so what, all presidents propose and the congress turns it into sausage to please the 'associations' that throw enough money...er free speech [sic] at them.

The question is valid even if only partially so because not enough voters will call in or email or whatever...to change this congress around for this vote.

The proposal is testimony to establishment Republicanism 101 and is based on the modern (Reagan) American creed...greed.

What we will see is the congress do all sorts of intellectual gymnastics complete with buzzwords such as dynamic scoring and such bullshit in their feeble attempts to economically justify reducing revenue to a institution that is as we speak...borrowing over $1 billion/DAY.

Makes perfect sense if you have no care for any of the debt this will add (debt IS a profit) of ours, our children and their children and likely...their children too.

However, in this case we will see typical congressional schizophrenia and the oh so righteous, i.e., the truly 'conservative' fiscal hawks...will vote for this.

However, the RINOs who just must be liberal charlatans not wanting to add to the debt via a tax cut, will vote against it and every dem, which means neither this or anything close to it will pass.

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RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and R... - 9/29/2017 2:34:50 PM   
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there is no such thing as a tax CUT, its a fantasy, there is only tax SHIFTING to someone else, thats what makes american politics so much fun.

Combine that with every time someone tries to shut down da gubmint or reduce taxes they punish the people by cutting their services first to insure gumbint employees are not affected

You still making excuses for the zionist bitch, given that?

Well this thread from RO is correct in the truly pragmatic sense in that all of capitalism itself is just the shifting of money around on paper. Meaning, if everybody wanted their money...it isn't there.

In a truly simple mathematical proposition, how many people could cash out until the banks ran out of cash ?

3%. Yes 97% of all wealth 'capital' is debt, either yours or somebody else's.

So yes, it's true meaning, there is NO tax cut ever...without a spending cut with no change in tax revenue. We just relieve some of the payers who can 'spend' more free speech in the bank on congress and not so much the others.

This is what's called state capitalism, the worst of all economic systems. Like I've said, oh yea hey, the middle class can survive and the rest too with $70 trillion in total debt and as long as...you keep borrowing.

Very interesting read: HERE

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RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and R... - 9/30/2017 7:16:41 AM   
MasterObsidiann


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Status: offline 		A proposal (my apologies). The "proposal" does not require a super majority, can you explain why?

Under Trump’s Plan, Tax Cuts Shrink
Over Time for Everyone but the Richest
By ALICIA PARLAPIANO and JASMINE C. LEE SEPT. 29, 2017

The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center (are these uneducated biased people?) released a preliminary analysis of President Trump’s tax plan on Friday, showing that the proposed tax cuts would get smaller over 10 years for all but the top 1 percent of earners. Some major findings: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/09/29/us/politics/trump-tax-plan-analysis.html?mcubz=3

My take on the uneducated article is no-one benefits by anything other than a pittance except for the top 1%, and the top 0.1% more-so. The top 95-99% seem to benefit a little. I see no real benefits for the other 95%.

President Trump himself categorically stated he would not benefit and yet all these changes could be worth $1 Billion to his empire.

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