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Its a good news story... - 9/29/2017 9:07:28 AM   
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Secretary of Homeland Security Elaine Duke's words at a news conference outside the white house...

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“Well, maybe from where she's standing, it's a good news story. When you’re drinking from a creek, it's not a good news story. When you don't have food for a baby, it's not a good news story,” Cruz told CNN’s “New Day,” referring to the plight of Puerto Ricans, many of whom have received little or no aid thus far. “When you have to pull people down from their buildings — I'm sorry, but that really upsets me and frustrates me. You know, I would ask her to come down here and visit the towns, and then make a statement like that, which frankly, it is an irresponsible statement.”

“Damn it, this is not a good news story. This is a people are dying story. This is a life-or-death story. This is a 'there's a truck load of stuff that cannot be taken to people story.' This is a story of a devastation that continues to worsen because people are not getting food and water,” she continued. “It is not a good news story when people are dying, when they don't have dialysis, when their generators aren't working and their oxygen isn’t providing for them. Where is there good news here? ... I’m really sorry, but you know when you have people out there dying, literally, scraping for food, where is the good news?”


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Despite what Cruz relayed as the realities on the ground in Puerto Rico, President Donald Trump has praised the work of his administration in responding to the needs of the devastated island, writing on Twitter Friday morning that “Puerto Rico Governor Ricardo Rossello just stated: ‘The Administration and the President, every time we've spoken, they've delivered.’” Cruz, too, said she had been in contact with the White House, but made a personal appeal to Trump to do more.

“I know the FEMA people are working hard and they’re doing their best, so this is a message for President Trump, thank you for calling San Juan yesterday and listening for our mayday call,” the mayor said. “But sir, there’s 77 other towns that are waiting. They’re waiting anxiously and will be very grateful to you and to the American people if you continue to step up to the moral imperative that you’ve taken on all over the world to help those in need. So help us.”


Yup, its a good news story.


Of course, it is their own damn fault really, according to one member here, they didnt stock up on a month's supply of food and water, or oxygen or grab battery operated dialysis machines, or better yet the whole 3 million plus population should have left the island when the storm was predicted to hit...

Why should the president be held accountable for not rushing aid, or using every means at the government's disposal to get aid to the island of American citizens who pay taxes but cant vote in national elections.

Yes, it is a great news story.

So far, the present response effort is much slower than the relief effort the US performed for Haiti after the earthquake.

3 days after the quake, the USS Carl Vinson was off shore (and sorry, but a US carrier can handle a cat 3 hurricane at sea, so they could have sailed on the day after the storm)

The day after the quake, US Air Force combat air controllers were on the ground and had the airport handling flights at a rate of one every five minutes using VFR rules, a card table and post it notes, and after the rest of the equipment arrived, they basically were running a modern international airport with all the modern tech associated with it.

Hell, the president couldnt get any slower if he were sleeping.

And the kicker is that we have people on the board blaming the people of Puerto Rico for the problem.

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RE: Its a good news story... - 9/29/2017 9:11:53 AM   
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it had to be worked into the budget no?

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RE: Its a good news story... - 9/29/2017 9:16:15 AM   
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Every pres has had his"natural disaster" response
This is the ugliest one ever.
But trumpers gotta defend their messiah emperor tang.


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RE: Its a good news story... - 9/29/2017 9:21:38 AM   
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and you had your kenyan and his failed hc, on your knees biatch

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RE: Its a good news story... - 9/29/2017 9:27:58 AM   
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and you had your kenyan and his failed hc, on your knees biatch

katrina, sandy, haiti and now trump
or did you forget bush?
Are you saying you think his reaction was better than katrina or haiti?(which isnt even an american state to start with)


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RE: Its a good news story... - 9/29/2017 9:44:31 AM   
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A story started by RWNJs and fake news and people like you eager to toilet lick their crevasses, Tastes of shit don't it pox being?

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RE: Its a good news story... - 9/29/2017 4:32:43 PM   
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Let's be honest here. There can be a better ending now than if the US had delayed any further. However, our honesty must include the fact that there is nothing like any public or private response to PR like there is/was for Houston or Florida.

There is no lecture or advice we would have for PR that wouldn't also apply to the mainland US.

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RE: Its a good news story... - 9/30/2017 4:28:39 AM   
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quote:

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And the kicker is that we have people on the board blaming the people of Puerto Rico for the problem.


really---and you wonder why people call you/think of you as a liberal?

because no one who lives in the midst of hurricane territory has any personal responsibility to be prepared for when a hurricane hits right??

imagine everyone there had indeed done so---how much easier the current problem would be. but nooooooooooo.

while im here, I just posted this in the other Puerto rico/lets bash trump and the USA thread:

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These are the resources deployed by the United States to Puerto Rico as of Friday:

MILITARY RESPONSE

- There are about 4,500 U.S. troops on the ground in Puerto Rico, including active duty and national guard. An additional 1,400 National Guard members are expected to arrive in Puerto Rico in four days

- Forty-three FEMA officials, teams of U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and more than 1,600 National Guard members had sheltered in place during the storm.

- The U.S. military has the USS Kearsarge and Oak Hill, amphibious assault ships, assisting in relief efforts. The USS Wasp, which has completed relief efforts off the coast of Dominica, will soon be joining them.

- The USNS Comfort, a hospital ship, is en route to Puerto Rico. The Comfort is equipped to carry up to 1,000 hospital beds, 12 operating room and one of America's largest trauma units.

- Fifty-two tilt/rotary-wing aircraft are taking part in efforts, according to the Pentagon.

- A Defense Logistics Agency shipment of 100 trucks with diesel and fuel will arrive in next few days.

- The Defense Logistics Agency is preparing to distribute potentially 160 million meals in 30 days.

- By Friday, 15,000 gallons of propane were expected to arrive in Puerto Rico.

- On Thursday, a C-5C aircraft landed with a generator to help radar approach operations, the Pentagon said.

POWER AND WATER

- There are 4,000 people working to restore electricity and private U.S. companies will be bringing in 1,000 additional workers this weekend, the Puerto Rico Electric Power Authority (PREPA) said...

- The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has completed a damage assessment at the Guajataca dam and are consulting on repairs.


https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2017-09-29/factbox-relief-efforts-in-puerto-rico-after-hurricane-maria

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President Donald J. Trump is actively engaged in monitoring the recovery efforts in Puerto Rico, and the full weight of the United States government is engaged to ensure that food, water, healthcare, and other lifesaving resources are making it to the people in need. At the request of the Governor of Puerto Rico, Ricardo Rossello, the President authorized Acting Secretary Duke to waive the Jones Act to ensure that ample resources are making it to the island, and we will continue to focus on the challenge of distributing those resources. The island setting presents logistical hurdles that do not exist on the mainland where trucks from around the country can converge on disaster areas. Ten thousand federal government relief workers are there, including 7,200 troops that are now on the island and working tirelessly to get people what they need. Lifesaving resources to hospitals have been prioritized, and 57 of the island's 69 hospitals are now operational. The Army Corps of Engineers is spearheading a massive mobilization to restore power, and this began with providing the diesel fuel necessary for sustainable emergency power generation. They're also working to restore long-term power generation and distribution around the island. There's a long way to go, but we will not rest until everyone is safe and secure. Our message to the incredible people of Puerto Rico is this: The President is behind you. We all are -- the entire country. Your unbreakable spirit is an inspiration to us all. We are praying for you, we are working for you, and we will not let you down.

FEMA Update
Yesterday, FEMA announced that all municipalities in Puerto Rico have been reached by search and rescue thanks to the joint efforts of multiple federal agencies. President Trump and Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Elaine Duke received a comprehensive briefing from
FEMA on Thursday morning on disaster relief. Points of this briefing included:

•FEMA and its federal partners continue 24-hour operations to reach inaccessible areas of Puerto Rico to reach survivors, provide fuel to hospitals, and re-open.

•The travel distance to the Islands as well as substantial impacts to air and sea ports, has presented complex challenges requiring a phased approach to the delivery of personnel, resources, equipment to move the resources, and lodging for responders.

•There are thousands of federal staff, including more than 600 FEMA personnel, on the ground in Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands engaged in response and recovery operations from Hurricanes Maria and Irma. Hundreds of additional federal personnel are supporting response and recovery operations through mainland coordination centers and logistics facilities.

Acting Secretary of DHS Elaine Duke and Homeland Security Advisor Tom Bossert Provide Hurricane Update
Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Elaine Duke is on the ground in Puerto Rico today. She and Homeland Security Advisor Tom Bossert provided an update on the ongoing hurricane relief efforts in Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands yesterday. Our response is, and has been from day one, people first. The focus is on immediate relief and gaining access to all areas of the island. 4 ports and 8 airports are now open, which allows for supplies to get on the island.


http://unityfeed.com/doc/13289/recovery-efforts-in-puerto-rico?grp_id=0

but yeah, "the president's incompetent" or "he's a raaaaaaaaaaaaaacist" or any other opportunity to bash is just too good for the comrades to pass up.

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RE: Its a good news story... - 9/30/2017 4:48:30 AM   
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and the woman's actual words, since you didn't bother to put them directly in your post:

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Duke said she is “very satisfied” with the federal response since Maria made landfall eight days earlier, calling it “a good news story in terms of our ability to reach people and the limited number of deaths that have taken place in such a devastating hurricane.”


nah---context doesn't matter.

meanwhile,

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Tom Bossert, Trump’s homeland security adviser, who joined Duke in addressing reporters, said some of the media reports about the island’s condition had been based on outdated images and data.

“I understand the coverage, in some cases, is giving the appearance that we're not moving fast enough,” Bossert said.

“I think that there's kind of two responses I'd have to that,” he said. “First, there's an understandable degree of devastation on the island, and for anybody that needs food and water, power, lifesaving needs and commodities, health care, there's nothing that can help fast enough. … But what I will tell you is that we are mobilizing and marshaling the resources of the United States of America in a way that is absolutely professional, fast and adequate to meet the needs.”

After saying little publicly about the devastation in the days after Maria’s landfall, Trump has in recent days been promising a robust response.

“The people of Puerto Rico have every bit of support from President Trump that he gave to the citizens of every other state in this country, and I think you’re going to see that continue in a very positive way,” Bossert said.

He later joined the White House press secretary in the briefing room to answer questions about the administration’s response.

“Right now, we've seen 16 fatalities confirmed from the state authorities,” Bossert said. “No fatality's acceptable. If that number increases significantly, that will be a devastating blow. We are doing everything we can to prevent that. Loss of life from the storm is one thing. Loss of life that's preventable is another. And that's why we're trying to marshal our resources.”


http://us.pressfrom.com/news/us/-87311-trump-lauds-amazing-response-in-puerto-rico-criticizes-coverage-by-media/

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RE: Its a good news story... - 9/30/2017 9:48:10 AM   
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Bounty, answer one fucking simple question.

Why the fuck was US response to the Earthquake in Haiti and the tsunami in the Indian ocean faster than getting relief to Puerto Rico?

Hell, Bush ordered a fucking carrier group on combat operations in the Persian gulf to India for that effort.

It was five fucking days before Trump ordered the USS Mercy dispatched and that was after Hillary Clinton and a number of congressmen of both parties called on him to do so.

In the case of Haiti, it was dispatched within 36 hours.

And do not say it was because Maria was still messing with the east coast. That is the lamest excuse on the book, if the US navy ships cannot deal with a category 2 hurricane at sea, then we need to scrap every fucking ship in the fucking fleet and start over.

Hell, we blew the fuck out of Baghdad airport when we invaded Iraq, but as soon as it was taken, the US air force moved combat air control teams in there and had the airport operating at a level comparable to JFK international within 12 hours, and that included patching the goddamn runways.

Are you going to sit there and say that a hurricane fucked up an airport worse than repeated air strikes with runway cratering bombs?

What about the fact that the Army and Navy have units with the only job of purifying water, complete with portable water purification equipment, have not been dispatched to Puerto Rico, is it really cheaper to send plane loads of bottled water?

Or lets address the fact that every military branch has units that can set up very large portable power generators to run hospitals and could be sent in, and the hospitals are still running on back up power and starting to run out of fuel for those generators.

And then of course there are the trump supporters on this board that say this is all Puerto Rico's fault, they should have stocked up on a month's supply of food and water or the entire 3.1 million of them should have evacuated.

But hey, the whole thing is a democrat party propaganda party.

FYI, the US Air Force has nine active duty Combat Air Control squadrons, there are nine air ports on Puerto Rico, 8 regional that could handle C130 Hercules aircraft, and I can attest that none of those units have been deployed and the large number of 130's are sitting idle. The base 15 miles from my house has four 130 squadrons shooting touch and goes and have been since the day after Maria hit.

Another point, before you try and claim the smaller 130's would not be enough, a 130 can land, unload a full cargo and be back in the air in less than 15 minutes, and in a hot combat zone, they can shave it to 10 (falling mortars and arty tend to be a great motivator for fast work.)

So, 8 airports running nothing but VFR daylight ops, with even half the 130 fleet operating can easily move and deliver 1,120,000 pounds of cargo per day per field.

So, tell me again, why our esteemed president has not utilized the fleet of 130's? or even part of them?

Shit they were used after the tsunami and the Haiti quake.

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RE: Its a good news story... - 9/30/2017 9:59:37 AM   
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The Defense Department has not sent enough troops and vehicles to hurricane-ravaged Puerto Rico but will soon send more, according to the three-star general newly in charge of coordinating the military response.

Army Lt. Gen. Jeff Buchanan said Friday morning that the Pentagon has 10,000 people helping with the response after Hurricanes Irma and Maria ripped through Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands earlier this month.

“We're certainly bringing in more [troops]," Buchanan said on CNN’s “New Day.”

"For example, on the military side, we're bringing in both Air Force, Navy, and Army medical capabilities in addition to aircraft, more helicopters. ... [But] it's not enough, and we're bringing more in.”


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Tom Bossert, the President Trump’s homeland security adviser, has defended the wait time in between the end of the storm and appointing Buchanan.

“It didn’t require a three-star general eight days ago,” Bossert said of the government response.

When asked whether it was a mistake to not have Buchanan on the ground in Puerto Rico earlier, Bossert replied, “No, not at all.”

“In fact, that doesn’t affect the way that we stage equipment and the way we area command and field operational command. This is textbook and it’s been done well,” Bossert told reporters Thursday at the daily White House press briefing.



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RE: Its a good news story... - 9/30/2017 10:22:14 AM   
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and you had your kenyan and his failed hc, on your knees biatch

I need details on that.

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RE: Its a good news story... - 9/30/2017 10:22:48 AM   
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How long did it take the French president Macron and King Willem Alexander of the Netherlands to visit St Martin island together after it got hit?

4 days after the airport was operational again

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RE: Its a good news story... - 9/30/2017 10:26:59 AM   
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Golfing is more important that PR

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RE: Its a good news story... - 9/30/2017 10:28:06 AM   
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Golfing is more important that PR

Seems golf is more important than a lot of things he should be doing.

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RE: Its a good news story... - 9/30/2017 12:53:18 PM   
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Golfing is more important that PR

Seems golf is more important than a lot of things he should be doing.

I cant disagree with that in any way Mr R

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RE: Its a good news story... - 9/30/2017 1:20:46 PM   
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Yes, I seem to remember golfing barely being interrupted by the beheading of a journalist by DAESH.

Golfing is important, obviously.



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RE: Its a good news story... - 9/30/2017 1:31:43 PM   
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3 million puerto ricans..one beheading
All american citizens, and isnt PR christian? they arent mooselambs are they?
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RE: Its a good news story... - 9/30/2017 1:35:37 PM   
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CNN anchor Christi Paul asked Lt. Gen. Russel Honore, who's in charge of the U.S. hurricane relief efforts in Puerto Rico, to react to the crazy tweets by Trump.

He was... restrained.

After talking about all that the citizens of Puerto Rico were doing to recover, to help themselves, Lt. Gen. Russel Honore said the best thing that could be done to spur recovery is to "give everybody a tank of gas to get the trucks moving, stores opened, streets clean. Until that happens, we're at a standstill. That would be my recommendation."

"What is your reaction to the president's tweets this morning?"

"I have no reaction," he said tersely. "The mayor is living on a cot. I hope the president has a good day at golf."

http://crooksandliars.com/2017/09/general-puerto-rico-recovery-i-hope

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RE: Its a good news story... - 9/30/2017 2:20:30 PM   
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CNN anchor Christi Paul asked Lt. Gen. Russel Honore, who's in charge of the U.S. hurricane relief efforts in Puerto Rico, to react to the crazy tweets by Trump.

He was... restrained.

After talking about all that the citizens of Puerto Rico were doing to recover, to help themselves, Lt. Gen. Russel Honore said the best thing that could be done to spur recovery is to "give everybody a tank of gas to get the trucks moving, stores opened, streets clean. Until that happens, we're at a standstill. That would be my recommendation."

"What is your reaction to the president's tweets this morning?"

"I have no reaction," he said tersely. "The mayor is living on a cot. I hope the president has a good day at golf."

http://crooksandliars.com/2017/09/general-puerto-rico-recovery-i-hope


(Gotta admit....that's gold).

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