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RE: Kasich gonna resign from GOP - 10/4/2017 10:18:39 AM   
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And when Democrats championed Civil Rights in the sixties, those KKK members ran to the Republican Party.

That's a fact. Praising the Dixiecrats is what took down Trent Lott.



You'll have to provide links for the KKK running to the Republicans. Perhaps you'll start with the voting tabulations from the Senate and House that voted for the Civil Rights Act.

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RE: Kasich gonna resign from GOP - 10/5/2017 5:56:50 PM   
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And when Democrats championed Civil Rights in the sixties, those KKK members ran to the Republican Party.

That's a fact. Praising the Dixiecrats is what took down Trent Lott.



You'll have to provide links for the KKK running to the Republicans. Perhaps you'll start with the voting tabulations from the Senate and House that voted for the Civil Rights Act.


Links, from a wild-eyed howler...

Good one

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RE: Kasich gonna resign from GOP - 10/5/2017 10:19:23 PM   
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It was a vote on enhancing stem cell research among comments about how if Strom Thurmond had been elected pres, we'd be better off. That had Lott resign the senate 12/2007.

In fact, both parties have reversed their roles since reconstruction. The repubs were the progressives, favored big govt. before the dems caught on and it was to 'win' the west.

First, it has been said that Lincoln rushed to get Nevada a US territory in 1861, admitted as a state in Oct. 1864 just in time to vote for him.

The repubs did this by becoming the party of big govt. and the social justice warriors.

[They] dominating the northern states and Lincoln also:

.....orchestrated an ambitious expansion of federal power.
.....helping to fund the transcontinental railroad.
.....the state university system.
.....and the settlement of the West by homesteaders. (give 'real' Americans Indian land...and get their votes)
.....instating a national currency.
.....and protective tariffs.

To paraphrase:

Democrats, who dominated the South, opposed these measures. After the Civil War, Republicans passed laws that granted protections for African Americans and advanced social justice. Again, Democrats largely opposed these expansions of power.

For 20 years prior to FDR, both parties tried to foster a larger role for the federal govt. Both parties saw how policies had benefited the bankers, railroads and manufacturers. Then tried to exploit the discontent this generated in rural America by promising the little guy some of the federal largesse that had hitherto gone to the business sector.

From this point on, Democrats stuck with this stance favoring federally funded social programs and benefits while Republicans were gradually driven to the counterposition of hands-off government.

As one professor tells it...from a business perspective, the loyalties of the parties did not really switch. "Although the rhetoric and to a degree the policies of the parties do switch places," he wrote, "their core supporters don't which is to say, the Republicans remain, throughout, the party of bigger businesses; it's just that in the earlier era bigger businesses want bigger government and in the later era they don't." (and big business gets what it wants)

In other words, earlier on, businesses needed things that only a bigger government could provide, (for them in their interest) such as infrastructure development, a currency and tariffs. Once these things were in place, a small, hands-off government became better for business.

HERE

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RE: Kasich gonna resign from GOP - 10/6/2017 1:46:26 AM   
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And when Democrats championed Civil Rights in the sixties, those KKK members ran to the Republican Party.

That's a fact. Praising the Dixiecrats is what took down Trent Lott.



You'll have to provide links for the KKK running to the Republicans. Perhaps you'll start with the voting tabulations from the Senate and House that voted for the Civil Rights Act.


It wasn't the Civil Rights Act that drove the racists to the GOP, it was Nixon's Southern Strategy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

But the Southern Strategy wouldn't have been possible with the Civil Rights Act.
They've been courting the racists ever since.

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RE: Kasich gonna resign from GOP - 10/6/2017 6:09:17 AM   
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And when Democrats championed Civil Rights in the sixties, those KKK members ran to the Republican Party.

That's a fact. Praising the Dixiecrats is what took down Trent Lott.



You'll have to provide links for the KKK running to the Republicans. Perhaps you'll start with the voting tabulations from the Senate and House that voted for the Civil Rights Act.

Read a book.

Hell, go large -- read two or three books.

Learn something about the country in which you live.


https://www.google.com/search?q=civil+rights+drove+kkk+to+the+republican+party&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

https://medium.com/everyvote/how-the-republicans-and-democrats-switched-on-civil-rights-in-5-racist-steps-92c1b41480b

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RE: Kasich gonna resign from GOP - 10/6/2017 4:17:04 PM   
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Kasich is a worthless liar who is only changing parties because he knows his Republican base hates his guts and won't ever put him up for office again. He campaigned for governor on a platform of not expanding state Medicaid benefits, and immediately after taking office did just that, betraying the very people who voted him in.


Considering how Kasich was first elected in November of 2010, expanded Medicaid in 2013, and was even re-elected afterwards, I think we know who the liar actually is.


Well I am sure the poor uninsured Ohioans looked right down their noses at all of those federal million$ to expand Medicare. They as usual can always pass the buck and go to the ER.

I mean after all, the red states only gobble up all of the federal money they can grab. I'd have to see some sources to believe that he ran on a platform of no expansion.

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RE: Kasich gonna resign from GOP - 10/6/2017 4:19:29 PM   
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Good,now he can start "the whiner party"

I played this gleefully for days after the witch lost. Watching the lefties melting down during those days was so fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXH0c2Bxfog


To be honest, this is the only thing I think a lot of Trump voters really care about.

A dead cat would still be a better president than Hitlery Cunton. And stink less.

Well how did the US get so choosy about their presidents after W ? He and again with Trump, leave it to the repubs...anybody but anybody...can be pres., especially if he has an R after his name.

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RE: Kasich gonna resign from GOP - 10/6/2017 4:29:23 PM   
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I think both parties need real leadership. And a colon cleansing.


Yet the voters only rejected the status quo in one of the parties. The other went with a known lying criminal, big banker whore elitist (Hillary Clinton)

And instead voted in one of the most corrupt, financial whores in modern times. 3500 lawsuits for fucking over his contractors, a serial cheater on his 3rd wife and a man who has admitted to making million$ off borrowed money and from lenders he walked away from and now won't touch him on a bet and...then went to corrupt Russian oligarchs for even more debt.

What a keen symbol of righteousness from the repubs and to call Hillary corrupt by his supporters is flat-out hilarious...worse than calling the kettle black.

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RE: Kasich gonna resign from GOP - 10/6/2017 4:30:56 PM   
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theres also the idea that the libertarian candidate took more votes away from trump than from Clinton.



The pro choice party that wants to end the war on drugs and thinks that gay marriage should be legal took votes from Mr. Trump?


Suuuuuuure

Am I the only one who feels old because they can remember when it was the people who lost the election* who'd spent the next term of office whining about their vote being split by rival parties?

*(Winning the popular vote is not the same as winning the election in the 'States: the founding fathers were careful to set up an electoral college in order to prevent the election of any presdent who campaigning by tagetting the mentally ill, deeply stupid, or poutily entitled by spouting locomdenom populist horseshit based on personal attacks and personality politics. Good job those guys who set up the electoral were worried about that one and took steps to prevent it, eh?)

.....and with Trump, an absolutely epic fail.

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RE: Kasich gonna resign from GOP - 10/6/2017 4:35:01 PM   
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The other went with a known lying criminal, big banker whore elitist

Actually both parties did, the only real difference is the nationality of the bankers they were sucking on. Clinton was sucking off U.S. bankers and Trump was sucking off Russian and German bankers. Other than that they were pretty much the same - two sides of the same coin.



Except Trump got a whole lot richer in the process fucking his lenders, investors and his contractors. Please tell me how many lawsuits against Hillary, how much is she in debt now and how many bankruptcies ?

Trump is the poster boy for sleaze and is absolutely nothing more than greedy, capitalist scum.

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RE: Kasich gonna resign from GOP - 10/6/2017 7:30:11 PM   
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Well I am sure the poor uninsured Ohioans looked right down their noses at all of those federal million$ to expand Medicare. They as usual can always pass the buck and go to the ER.
I mean after all, the red states only gobble up all of the federal money they can grab. I'd have to see some sources to believe that he ran on a platform of no expansion.


Then, by all means, request it of the one that made the claim.


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