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bounty44 -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/21/2017 5:00:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV Yeah. Totally not people on the right... quote: In the wake of the report, the Republican National Committee released a statement calling on Democrats and the DNC to return his donations. http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/05/politics/harvey-weinstein-donations/index.html So Nnanji, are you just ignorant, or a fucking liar? the presence of a body on the right calling for the left to return donations from Weinstein does NOT preclude people from the left doing it also. that makes nnanji neither "ignorant" nor a "fucking liar." to your earlier point about "you made the claim, you back it up"---we're a curious mix here of academia and casual conversation. in the former the general rule is, when in doubt, reference. you don't have to reference the sky being blue. you do have to reference a quote that gives support to your thesis. however theres plenty of fuzzy middle ground. in the latter, if youre hanging out in a bar somewhere talking with someone, you just accept certain things as fact/that the person in question is speaking truthfully, especially if the thing is easily verifiable. if the point is esoteric, or outlandish, you might say "where did you get that from?" if its within the easy realm of plausibility, you can more or less accept it on its face with a little bit of skepticism and check on it later. the moving back and forth between the academic and casual creates tension---we don't have a standard set of rules when it comes to supporting statements---and that is heightened all the more so when it comes to the left/right political divide, personality conflicts and the desire to make the other side look bad, or stupid, or whatever. but the short of it is, the alternative reading to your "you made the claim" could very easily be "yeah, i'll be gracious (without even belaboring the point) and take the two seconds to look it up." the other alternative is to be boorish. a search of "returning Weinstein donations" shows all sorts of people form the left calling for, and giving them back.

BoscoX -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/21/2017 7:25:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Can we not call all of them assholes and condemn them? You know rush, trump, and weinstein. I can how about you? Butch In our years of interaction, I have come to realize there are many things you CAN say that I never would. That to the side, I can't put President Trump, Rush Limbaugh and Harvey Weinstein in the same category. Can't do it. Rush called a girl a slut. Poor choice of words, but she WAS trying to make a case that I should pay for her choice of lifestyle which seemed a bit promiscuous to me. He didn't rape, sexually harass, or sexually assault anyone. No sale. President Trump was surreptitiously recorded talking about how "groupies" will "LET you do just about anything ..." Sounds like CONSENT to me. No sale. Weinstain has ADMITTED to touching the breast of a young lady who didn't want him to. Cha-ching! Michael That's a great way of illustrating what is meant by the term "howlers". They place men who have fairly normal dispositions on the level of their own very serious serial creeps purely for political purposes, while all the time really believing their seriously deranged howling that they have whipped up out of half truths and outright lies

BoscoX -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/21/2017 7:31:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NoirMetal Liberals are all about "justice", until it's another liberal doing the crimes. Notice you aren't seeing any protests outside of Humas current abode over him. And how they keep repeating the lie that Bill Clinton's impeachment was over a consensual blowjob They're holy righteous warriors, unless and until the rapist is their own guy then they love and worship him like no other, and will go to any lengths to defend his "honor"

kdsub -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/21/2017 8:08:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Can we not call all of them assholes and condemn them? You know rush, trump, and weinstein. I can how about you? Butch In our years of interaction, I have come to realize there are many things you CAN say that I never would. That to the side, I can't put President Trump, Rush Limbaugh and Harvey Weinstein in the same category. Can't do it. Rush called a girl a slut. Poor choice of words, but she WAS trying to make a case that I should pay for her choice of lifestyle which seemed a bit promiscuous to me. He didn't rape, sexually harass, or sexually assault anyone. No sale. President Trump was surreptitiously recorded talking about how "groupies" will "LET you do just about anything ..." Sounds like CONSENT to me. No sale. Weinstain has ADMITTED to touching the breast of a young lady who didn't want him to. Cha-ching! Michael Ok ...our differing opinions...I just hope you are not trying to say Trump and Rush are virtuous in comparison to Weinstein. Unless you think groping women is acceptable.

Edwird -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/21/2017 8:21:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr You hear that giant sucking sound? Holy Moses. Ross Perot -2.0. This should be interesting. quote: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? Where Have All The Flowers Gone Oh my, even after the election we have to attend to those who still feel hurt about things before The Savior came along. Are you hurt? It still hurts? Somebody call a medic! The country can't thank you enough for your lily-livered bravery.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/21/2017 8:34:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Ok ...our differing opinions...I just hope you are not trying to say Trump and Rush are virtuous in comparison to Weinstein. Unless you think grouping women is acceptable. There you go, again. False equivalency isn't going to help your cause, but let me answer your question: First, a smart-assed response: Yes, I like groUping women. In fact, me and three ladies is about the ratio I like. Okay. Yes, I do think groping women is acceptable. I like groping ladies, in fact. It leads to other fun activities. The difference: I like groping ladies, when they're wanting to groped (or, in the cases, back in the 80s where they were *willing* to let me grope them because they were star-fuckers, looking to get in on the ground floor). I'll spell this out, one more time: (then) candidate Trump was describing what some women will *let* a man (of wealth or position or any kind of what she considers to be desirability, really) do. The key word is "let" which implies (if not *requires* ) consent. "Let". It's a big deal. Then, you have Rush who, to my knowledge, has never been accused of such behavior. Then you have Weinstain who's ADMITTED to it. We have the audio tape in the public domain and the lady clearly didn't "let" him do it. Michael

BoscoX -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/21/2017 8:43:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Can we not call all of them assholes and condemn them? You know rush, trump, and weinstein. I can how about you? Butch In our years of interaction, I have come to realize there are many things you CAN say that I never would. That to the side, I can't put President Trump, Rush Limbaugh and Harvey Weinstein in the same category. Can't do it. Rush called a girl a slut. Poor choice of words, but she WAS trying to make a case that I should pay for her choice of lifestyle which seemed a bit promiscuous to me. He didn't rape, sexually harass, or sexually assault anyone. No sale. President Trump was surreptitiously recorded talking about how "groupies" will "LET you do just about anything ..." Sounds like CONSENT to me. No sale. Weinstain has ADMITTED to touching the breast of a young lady who didn't want him to. Cha-ching! Michael Ok ...our differing opinions...I just hope you are not trying to say Trump and Rush are virtuous in comparison to Weinstein. Unless you think grouping women is acceptable. Amazing how many leftists have become prudish puritan nuns in the last year [image]https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/vgdL73H_6JrX-Y2-4SQ16PQxFi8/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2014/10/20/810/n/1922283/237f054544564a77_tumblr_mhup6s8TXs1r72dfyo1_500/i/When-Gabriel-Continues-Shady-Hell.gif[/image]

Nnanji -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/21/2017 9:00:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker FFS who cares if she returns the money or not? It's money. Weinstein didn't get the money because he raped people, he got it because he is a producer. If my boss was convicted of rape, I know I wouldn't give my salary back. Oh idiot Google boy. It's not people on the right saying give the money back. It's the more moral than thou on the left giving it back to show purity and the Clinton's are declining to do so. We on the right are just laughing at you lefties and watching the Clinton's obvious venal reactions. Who are these people? Google is your friend. Search for actors giving speeches about anything other than acting. I'm not the one making the claim, so it's not mine to back up. And that would be a fairly useless search string. Yeah. Totally not people on the right... quote: In the wake of the report, the Republican National Committee released a statement calling on Democrats and the DNC to return his donations. http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/05/politics/harvey-weinstein-donations/index.html So Nnanji, are you just ignorant, or a fucking liar? Well, lets see. The first couple of paragraphs of your article mention lefties returning donations and then several paragraph down mentions, "In the wake of the report..." the RNC released a report. Ya, I'll admit I wasn't privy to what the RNC released. However, where the boat was (not in the wake) there were lefties a plenty howling about their ill gotten gains. If you want to call missing one pres release ignorance, have at it.

JVoV -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/21/2017 5:35:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV Yeah. Totally not people on the right... quote: In the wake of the report, the Republican National Committee released a statement calling on Democrats and the DNC to return his donations. http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/05/politics/harvey-weinstein-donations/index.html So Nnanji, are you just ignorant, or a fucking liar? the presence of a body on the right calling for the left to return donations from Weinstein does NOT preclude people from the left doing it also. that makes nnanji neither "ignorant" nor a "fucking liar." to your earlier point about "you made the claim, you back it up"---we're a curious mix here of academia and casual conversation. in the former the general rule is, when in doubt, reference. you don't have to reference the sky being blue. you do have to reference a quote that gives support to your thesis. however theres plenty of fuzzy middle ground. in the latter, if youre hanging out in a bar somewhere talking with someone, you just accept certain things as fact/that the person in question is speaking truthfully, especially if the thing is easily verifiable. if the point is esoteric, or outlandish, you might say "where did you get that from?" if its within the easy realm of plausibility, you can more or less accept it on its face with a little bit of skepticism and check on it later. the moving back and forth between the academic and casual creates tension---we don't have a standard set of rules when it comes to supporting statements---and that is heightened all the more so when it comes to the left/right political divide, personality conflicts and the desire to make the other side look bad, or stupid, or whatever. but the short of it is, the alternative reading to your "you made the claim" could very easily be "yeah, i'll be gracious (without even belaboring the point) and take the two seconds to look it up." the other alternative is to be boorish. a search of "returning Weinstein donations" shows all sorts of people form the left calling for, and giving them back. Except you're taking things out of context. Nnanji did say "It's not people on the right saying give the money back". And I provided proof of just that. So the question "Is Nnanji ignorant or a liar?" still seems quite valid. And apparently the answer is ignorant.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/21/2017 7:37:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV Except you're taking things out of context. Nnanji did say "It's not people on the right saying give the money back". And I provided proof of just that. So the question "Is Nnanji ignorant or a liar?" still seems quite valid. And apparently the answer is ignorant. Alfred, we know you're not worried about things like intellectually honesty (in fact, I doubt you could spell it, if I hadn't just done it for you), but if you want to get into a war of minutiae, you're going to regret it. You make many more "mis-speaks" than the average posting bear. Michael

JVoV -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/21/2017 9:48:07 PM)
Really? I suppose you've kept a log of this?

DaddySatyr -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/22/2017 6:14:14 AM)
Anyone with two functioning eyes is well aware of your modus operandi. Michael

CarltheDom -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/22/2017 7:22:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX And how they keep repeating the lie that Bill Clinton's impeachment was over a consensual blowjob... Clinton wasn't impeached over the BJ, he was impeached because he got on national television and told the American people that he didn't have sex with that woman, and then went before a Congressional committee and said the same thing. Sex, consensual or otherwise, is not an impeachable offense, lying to Congress under oath is.

kdsub -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/22/2017 8:25:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CarltheDom quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX And how they keep repeating the lie that Bill Clinton's impeachment was over a consensual blowjob... Clinton wasn't impeached over the BJ, he was impeached because he got on national television and told the American people that he didn't have sex with that woman, and then went before a Congressional committee and said the same thing. Sex, consensual or otherwise, is not an impeachable offense, lying to Congress under oath is. If it was not an impeachable offense then what right did The Congrss have to ask? Butch

DaddySatyr -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/22/2017 8:35:38 AM)
I can't believe I feel compelled to do this, but I must. I have an addendum to: quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr [snip] ... Then you have Weinstain who's ADMITTED to it. We have the audio tape in the public domain and the lady clearly didn't "let" him do it. Michael Had Weinstain been heard on that audio tape saying something akin to: "I'm sorry, honestly. I thought you were okay with what was going on between us. I didn't realize my advance was not appreciated until just now, when you brought it up. I really do apologize." I might be a bit more willing to accept that he isn't a scumbag, piece of shit. I am willing to concede that an older guy, in today's politicized inter-personal climate could absolutely make an advance such as that in grievous error. I shudder to think of some of the incidents in my youth where something like this could have been my lot in life. But, Weinstain *didn't* say anything like that. He seemed (to me) to be trying to chastise the young lady for being too much of a prude or, at least, non-accepting of the privilege he believes his money, power and position should buy him. Michael

BoscoX -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/22/2017 8:36:40 AM)
Nm

DaddySatyr -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/22/2017 8:52:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CarltheDom quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX (Emphasis is by DaddySatyr) And how they keep repeating the *lie* that *Bill Clinton's impeachment was over a consensual blowjob*... Clinton wasn't impeached over the BJ, he was impeached because he got on national television and told the American people that he didn't have sex with that woman, and then went before a Congressional committee and said the same thing. Sex, consensual or otherwise, is not an impeachable offense, lying to Congress under oath is. First off, Carl: Welcome to this side (the forums). I noticed you're new and I hope you'll enjoy your time, here. The emphasis I added to Bosco's quote kind of shows that he knows Clinton's impeachment wasn't about a blowjob. I don't think anyone with two brain cells to rub together believes that, but that is the story that the loony left has been going with for 20+ years As to Butch's question: It was being investigated because of Slick Willy's proclivity, going all the way back to his days as governor of Arkansas, for taking certain "liberties" with ladies. These proclivities were exposed (at least as "hear-say") in his '92 campaign. When congress was investigating the earlier allegations (of RAPE), Lewinski's name came to light. Michael

Nnanji -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/22/2017 4:48:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CarltheDom quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX And how they keep repeating the lie that Bill Clinton's impeachment was over a consensual blowjob... Clinton wasn't impeached over the BJ, he was impeached because he got on national television and told the American people that he didn't have sex with that woman, and then went before a Congressional committee and said the same thing. Sex, consensual or otherwise, is not an impeachable offense, lying to Congress under oath is. Oh jees, really. He was impeached for telling lies under oath in a trial. God you lefties simply must revise history to suit the cartoons that run in your head. It's funny how you guys believe the shit you make up. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton

Nnanji -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/22/2017 5:27:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV Yeah. Totally not people on the right... quote: In the wake of the report, the Republican National Committee released a statement calling on Democrats and the DNC to return his donations. http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/05/politics/harvey-weinstein-donations/index.html So Nnanji, are you just ignorant, or a fucking liar? the presence of a body on the right calling for the left to return donations from Weinstein does NOT preclude people from the left doing it also. that makes nnanji neither "ignorant" nor a "fucking liar." to your earlier point about "you made the claim, you back it up"---we're a curious mix here of academia and casual conversation. in the former the general rule is, when in doubt, reference. you don't have to reference the sky being blue. you do have to reference a quote that gives support to your thesis. however theres plenty of fuzzy middle ground. in the latter, if youre hanging out in a bar somewhere talking with someone, you just accept certain things as fact/that the person in question is speaking truthfully, especially if the thing is easily verifiable. if the point is esoteric, or outlandish, you might say "where did you get that from?" if its within the easy realm of plausibility, you can more or less accept it on its face with a little bit of skepticism and check on it later. the moving back and forth between the academic and casual creates tension---we don't have a standard set of rules when it comes to supporting statements---and that is heightened all the more so when it comes to the left/right political divide, personality conflicts and the desire to make the other side look bad, or stupid, or whatever. but the short of it is, the alternative reading to your "you made the claim" could very easily be "yeah, i'll be gracious (without even belaboring the point) and take the two seconds to look it up." the other alternative is to be boorish. a search of "returning Weinstein donations" shows all sorts of people form the left calling for, and giving them back. Except you're taking things out of context. Nnanji did say "It's not people on the right saying give the money back". And I provided proof of just that. So the question "Is Nnanji ignorant or a liar?" still seems quite valid. And apparently the answer is ignorant. "Was" ignorant. If only your social problems could be fixed as simply.

JVoV -> RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? (10/22/2017 5:36:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr Anyone with two functioning eyes is well aware of your modus operandi. Michael Then they're ahead of me. I never have a fucking clue what I'm going to say until I hit the OK button.

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