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Marini -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/20/2017 10:33:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Danemora

I agree with you as well on this. I voted for my cat as a write-in since my actual vote didnt mean anything anyway. My state's electoral votes went to HRC and Id have rather stabbed myself in the eye with my pen than blacken in the Chump bubble


The Democrats had this one to lose, and they did.
From day one, I could not believe they were putting HRC in my face.




Danemora -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/20/2017 10:38:05 PM)

Preaching to the choir here. As soon as the Primaries were all over, they might as well have just called the election there and donated both POTUS campaign war chests to charity. HRC or Trump? Might as well have just asked us regular old Americans to choose between a bullet to the head or chest. Its gonna hurt either way. Artie msy puff up his chest and crow, but the rest of us are just hiding our heads and whispering apologies to the rest of the world for our current Governmental carnival




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 2:41:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LTE

1) The Dems lost the Presidency even though she beat Bernie and he is not even dead.

2) The Dems lost the Congress even though she had nothing to do with that.




Not that I am a big fan of the Democratic party but...

1) Thanks to the Electoral College (one BIG gerrymander of what should be a national election)
2) In the House, thanks to massive gerrymandering...




bounty44 -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 4:29:50 AM)

the sort of binary you and marini are engaging in is just plain false.

there are indeed a lot of people who see elections as the choice between the lesser of two evils and for sure there were plenty of people in the "anyone but Hillary" camp but at the same time, each candidate did, and still does, have ardent followers who preferred them from the very beginning.

and danemora, you keep sounding all gloom and doom concerning trump---what has he done that has actually affected YOUR life in a harmful way?

additionally, what has he done to ACTUALLY harm the country? by that I mean, don't quote a nebulous "he abolished some regulation" but rather, "he did X, and Y occurred as a direct result of it" and not only that, but also that "X and Y" cannot be interpreted as acceptable given some other set of values or premises.





JstAnotherSub -> RE: Yet another Trump lie. (10/21/2017 6:17:46 AM)

someone called him a cock womble in the replies to that tweet. Gawd you Brits have some awesome fucking slang! It is my new favorite word for that orange idiot.




BoscoX -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 7:07:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Edwird

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ORIGINAL: LTE

He also won when he was not supposed to. There's a pattern here.


Hitler's highest vote total was ~ 30-33%.

Trump's total was, more accurately, 26%.

So, tell us more about this 'pattern' you are seeing, here.

You started, so you first.



[image]https://2static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Good+hitler+chucklea+hickle_4f22f1_6071594.jpg[/image]

Howler.




Edwird -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 7:36:58 AM)

When another poster inquired about your constant use of the term "howler" in every other post, I explained that it was a matter of projection (we have online dictionaries now, look it up), and that the person doing that was a mental midget who ran all up and down the hallways of collar P&R with his hair on fire, screaming at everything.

So now you've latched on to the latest thing you could never think of on your own, using the "hair on fire" thing in every other post.

What you lack in original thought, or any thought process at all, you more that make up for in decibel level by way of incessant and repetitive drivel.




Danemora -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 8:50:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

the sort of binary you and marini are engaging in is just plain false.

there are indeed a lot of people who see elections as the choice between the lesser of two evils and for sure there were plenty of people in the "anyone but Hillary" camp but at the same time, each candidate did, and still does, have ardent followers who preferred them from the very beginning.

and danemora, you keep sounding all gloom and doom concerning trump---what has he done that has actually affected YOUR life in a harmful way?

additionally, what has he done to ACTUALLY harm the country? by that I mean, don't quote a nebulous "he abolished some regulation" but rather, "he did X, and Y occurred as a direct result of it" and not only that, but also that "X and Y" cannot be interpreted as acceptable given some other set of values or premises.




The thoughts being exchanged between Marini and I are just plain false in your opinion, Bounty. But as a Trump supporter, I wouldnt expect you to think we were correct anyway. The only way our exchange would gain any sort of legitimacy in your head is if we just became Trump rah rah cheerleaders like you. Lets just cut through the bullshit and get down to brass tacks

Im one of the folks who face losing ACA insurance due to Trump's changes. If that wont affect my life in a harmful way...Im not sure what would qualify

Next...Im not one of the upper 1%, so those big tax cuts at the top are going to come at my expense since Im further down the socioeconomic ladder.

Lastly, I just think Trump is an embarrassing, highly unstable, unmitigated asshole.




BoscoX -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 8:54:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Danemora


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

the sort of binary you and marini are engaging in is just plain false.

there are indeed a lot of people who see elections as the choice between the lesser of two evils and for sure there were plenty of people in the "anyone but Hillary" camp but at the same time, each candidate did, and still does, have ardent followers who preferred them from the very beginning.

and danemora, you keep sounding all gloom and doom concerning trump---what has he done that has actually affected YOUR life in a harmful way?

additionally, what has he done to ACTUALLY harm the country? by that I mean, don't quote a nebulous "he abolished some regulation" but rather, "he did X, and Y occurred as a direct result of it" and not only that, but also that "X and Y" cannot be interpreted as acceptable given some other set of values or premises.




Im one of the folks who face losing ACA insurance due to Trump's changes. If that wont affect my life in a harmful way...Im not sure what would qualify

Next...Im not one of the upper 1%, so those big tax cuts at the top are going to come at my expense since Im further down the socioeconomic ladder.

Lastly, I just think Trump is an embarrassing, highly unstable, unmitigated asshole.



Obamascam was failing on its own before President Trump even won the Republican nomination

And how does allowing people to keep the money they have earned harm you? You should really investigate moving to Cuba or Venezuela or North Korea, if you get excited about government confiscating wealth




Danemora -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 8:57:41 AM)

Hush, Bosco. Grown folks are talking. If we need the "howler" town crier, I'll call on you. Until then, your lips are so far up Trump's ass that I cant tell where his ass ends and your face begins, love. No one expects you to look at the situation from another's perspective...unless that perspective tows the party line.




susie -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 9:36:35 AM)

What a shame the Orange Bloater was allowed to escape Trumpton

[image]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Chix4NLWIAAt3bX.jpg[/image]

This will probably only make sense to those of us from the UK




BoscoX -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 9:48:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Danemora

Hush, Bosco. Grown folks are talking. If we need the "howler" town crier, I'll call on you. Until then, your lips are so far up Trump's ass that I cant tell where his ass ends and your face begins, love. No one expects you to look at the situation from another's perspective...unless that perspective tows the party line.


How to spot leftist trash... They rarely argue against the substance of the post. Due to mental deficiencies they are forced to rely almost exclusively on cartoonish memes that reflect the cartoonish alternate reality they exist in, or childish insults that are totally lacking in real substance

Debate fallacies etc, with very rare exceptions




Marini -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 10:11:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

the sort of binary you and marini are engaging in is just plain false.

there are indeed a lot of people who see elections as the choice between the lesser of two evils and for sure there were plenty of people in the "anyone but Hillary" camp but at the same time, each candidate did, and still does, have ardent followers who preferred them from the very beginning.

There have ALWAYS been people that support any candidate that runs.
People supported Hitler, and I could list 30 other horrific leaders, that "people" supported.
The point is, many people did not like HRC and did not Trump, that has not changed.

Those of us, that DISLIKED BOTH candidates in the last Presidential election, have a right to speak our opinions, like everyone else.


You offer up 2 people who many find UNSATISFACTORY, and ask/us to choose, and what do you get?
[;)]







Edwird -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 11:26:25 AM)

Well there you go, Marini.

There's "train spotting" and then there's "train wreck spotting."




Danemora -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 11:49:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: Danemora

Hush, Bosco. Grown folks are talking. If we need the "howler" town crier, I'll call on you. Until then, your lips are so far up Trump's ass that I cant tell where his ass ends and your face begins, love. No one expects you to look at the situation from another's perspective...unless that perspective tows the party line.


How to spot leftist trash... They rarely argue against the substance of the post. Due to mental deficiencies they are forced to rely almost exclusively on cartoonish memes that reflect the cartoonish alternate reality they exist in, or childish insults that are totally lacking in real substance

Debate fallacies etc, with very rare exceptions



Right wing trash is equally easy to spot, love. Here is an example. A guy (in this case...you are male, yes?)shows up only to call those who oppose his opinions "crazy," "insane," etc or running around screaming "howler" when he has nothing of intellectual quality to add to the conversation. If you picture a monkey who flings handfuls of his own shit around his enclosure, you can get the image of what a right wing trash looks like.

Bounty is a Trump supporter just like you, yet he (hope you are a dude) actually engages in discussions without being a total douchebag. You, not so much. Rise up, Bosco...no one likes a guy who limboes in all half-assed




LadyConstanze -> RE: Yet another Trump lie. (10/21/2017 11:53:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LTE


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

The fuckwit is at it again, this time linking Islam to crime with another disingenuous and scaremongering claim.

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Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Just out report: "United Kingdom crime rises 13% annually amid spread of Radical Islamic terror." Not good, we must keep America safe!
3:31 am - 20 Oct 2017



There's no point in being charitable any more, is there? He's a cretin, or he knows his supporters are cretins and won't know any better ... or maybe a combination. Whatever. This is just brainless bollocks.



We won.


I always love it when the dude who was exposed as a bit of a fraud by his own "slave" dabbles in politics, I guess those type of people voted for Agent Orange...




bounty44 -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 12:06:26 PM)

no, its not merely "my opinion." i gave you logical evidence for the reasoning. what you said may be true for you and marini, its not true for many millions of others.

and no, im not a trump supporter. he was last on my list in the republican primary, i didn't vote for him and i don't think ive ever said anything here that can be legitimately construed as me being a "trump supporter."

what i am is a supporter of making sound arguments no matter who is being talked about. apart from that, I do get a little tired of all the incessant trump bashing.

your "brass tacks" ultimately don't deliver danemora. both things you said are nebulous in general and in particular how they will affect you personally, and in actuality, have to do with congress, not trump.




PeonForHer -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 12:08:28 PM)

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How to spot leftist trash... They rarely argue against the substance of the post. Due to mental deficiencies they are forced to rely almost exclusively on cartoonish memes that reflect the cartoonish alternate reality they exist in, or childish insults that are totally lacking in real substance

Debate fallacies etc, with very rare exceptions


Bit rich coming from you who, along with your usual team-mates, tried to turn this into a discussion about the UK's crime rates in general rather than the topic of the OP, isn't it?

The fact is that Trump has shown himself to be either a cretin, a dribbling liar, or both - once again. For god's sake, no politician here, on either the left or the right, respects the big lump of sunburnt lard any more.




Danemora -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 12:11:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

no, its not merely "my opinion." i gave you logical evidence for the reasoning. what you said may be true for you and marini, its not true for many millions of others.

and no, im not a trump supporter. he was last on my list in the republican primary, i didn't vote for him and i don't think ive ever said anything here that can be legitimately construed as me being a "trump supporter."
what i am is a supporter of making sound arguments no matter who is being talked about.

your "brass tacks" ultimately don't deliver danemora. both things you said are nebulous in general and in how they will affect you personally, and in actuality, have to do with congress, not trump.


It delivered just fine, Bounty. Just because you dislike or disagree with it, it doesnt make it wrong




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