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bounty44 -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 12:19:29 PM)

when I ask what has he done that has hurt you, what you wrote doesn't really answer that question.

and again, the things you mentioned are not trump per se, they are congress.




Danemora -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 12:42:05 PM)

Bounty, the beauty of it is that I dont need to have your approval as to how I think and feel regarding our POTUS. Im not quite sure where you got the opinion you are entitled to that level of power in anyone else's life as it is anyway, but no one has to dance to your tune. I dont have to explain or justify my feelings regarding Trump being unstable, highly immature, and very un-POTUSlike.




LTE -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 1:23:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LTE

1) The Dems lost the Presidency even though she beat Bernie and he is not even dead.

2) The Dems lost the Congress even though she had nothing to do with that.




Not that I am a big fan of the Democratic party but...

1) Thanks to the Electoral College (one BIG gerrymander of what should be a national election)
2) In the House, thanks to massive gerrymandering...



Of course. Don't forget the Russians.




LTE -> RE: Yet another Trump lie. (10/21/2017 1:26:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

The fuckwit is at it again, this time linking Islam to crime with another disingenuous and scaremongering claim.

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Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Just out report: "United Kingdom crime rises 13% annually amid spread of Radical Islamic terror." Not good, we must keep America safe!
3:31 am - 20 Oct 2017



There's no point in being charitable any more, is there? He's a cretin, or he knows his supporters are cretins and won't know any better ... or maybe a combination. Whatever. This is just brainless bollocks.



We won.


I always love it when the dude who was exposed as a bit of a fraud by his own "slave" dabbles in politics, I guess those type of people voted for Agent Orange...



Women do spout off, it's a characteristic of submissive women and those who should be.




Lucylastic -> RE: Yet another Trump lie. (10/21/2017 1:36:32 PM)

yes because you have no idea how to deal with non submissive women(and not even submissives very often)
such winning, poor artie




PeonForHer -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 1:52:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

when I ask what has he done that has hurt you, what you wrote doesn't really answer that question.

and again, the things you mentioned are not trump per se, they are congress.


You mean, 'What has he done to you, personally, that affects you, personally'. Yes, well, I'm not selfish right wing shit, Bounty. I *do* think in terms of what he's done for, or against, the world in general, and I can't see why I should apologise for doing so.

That being taken into account: quite aside from everything else he's already fucked up (like relations with Mexico and indeed the rest of the world, plus relations between the races at home), and not to mention that I'm not even American ... he's pulled the USA out of very, very hard-won, globally-agreed, climate control measures. On that latter basis *alone* I despise the great, ignorant, bullshitting, repulsive sociopathic turd - as does almost everyone in the First World who isn't a stuffed-up, smug, chronically stodge-brained American Republican. I hope that helps.




Edwird -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 2:15:32 PM)


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no, its not merely "my opinion." i gave you logical evidence for the reasoning.


You have never in any instance presented anything remotely resembling 'logical evidence,' nor ever displayed the slightest capacity for understanding such in the first place.










Danemora -> RE: Yet another leftist lie. (10/21/2017 2:19:14 PM)

What Bounty doesnt understand is that every single time a Republican like Trump takes office, they make sweeping tax cuts for those in the higher tax brackets. Our POTUS is one of those upper bracket guys...along with his family, friends, associates, cronies, etc. Sadly a great deal of our Congressional representation also find themselves in that upper bracket.

So while everyone at the top is raking in the dough, there becomes a gap between what taxes brings into the coffers and what the Government has to pay out. To make up for what he gives to guys like himself has to be made up for by budget cuts towards other areas. Cant be Defense because the GOP has a hard on for that. So they pick on the weak by targeting programs like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, the environment, etc. Someone has to pay for it...and it sure as shit isnt going to be the upper class.




Edwird -> RE: Yet another Trump lie. (10/21/2017 2:24:44 PM)

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Women do spout off, it's a characteristic of submissive women and those who should be.


Overstuffed white males wearing their Daisy Dukes for the corporatocracy is not a pretty sight, but that's who you vote for anyway.

Just out of curiosity . . . the 48" waist Daisy Dukes you're wearing; did you get those on clearance at Goodwill?

Modern day Republican septic spewing brings all the fat male subs out of the woodwork, so it seems.




Lucylastic -> RE: Yet another trump lie. (10/21/2017 2:27:36 PM)

congress, republicans and trump will affect all women of childbearing years.


http://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/354364-the-trump-administration-is-coming-for-womens-health-and-bodies


Ask a dozen women across the country why they use birth control, and their answers will be anything but uniform. Some will simply cite not wanting to be pregnant, while others may bring up serious medical conditions such as endometriosis or polycystic ovarian syndrome.

But no matter who they are or what their reasons, there’s one theme that runs through every answer: women use birth control because it is fundamental to their place in this world.


That’s why when the Trump administration announced a sweeping new rule that eliminates the requirement that all health insurance plans cover birth control, it was met with an outpouring of fury. Women took to Twitter to share their birth control stories. Employees called on their bosses to not put their access to birth control at risk.


It’s clear to the rest of the country, even if the message hasn’t gotten through to politicians in D.C.: Access to birth control is more than just a health issue. It’s about health, rights and economic equality.

For those of us who have been following along closely, this move from the administration, while shocking, isn’t exactly surprising. In every way imaginable, Trump has turned back the clock on women’s health and rights.

This administration has undermined the nation’s family planning program, rolled back safeguards for transgender people, threatened DACA recipients, revoked Obama's Fair Pay and Safe Workplaces Orders, and spent months attempting to block millions from accessing preventive care at Planned Parenthood.

Over the last six months, the administration has appointed radical, anti-birth control extremists to top positions in federal agencies and departments. And in case there was any doubt where his priorities lie, on his first full workday in office, Trump eliminated funding for programs that fight global maternal mortality.

Now the Trump administration has just taken direct aim at a woman’s fundamental right to decide whether and when she has children. The rule means that any employer can decide that a woman can no longer have birth control covered by her health insurance. They can object for religious reasons, or for a more nebulous “moral” objection standard.

Let’s be clear: This has nothing to do with religion. Under the Affordable Care Act religious organizations already had the ability to opt out of providing birth control, but the ACA still ensured their employees could get coverage through other means. Instead, this rule is about taking away women’s fundamental health care, plain and simple.

Access to birth control has been key for women’s progress. The Affordable Care Act’s birth control provision saved women an estimated $1.4 billion on birth control pills in its first year alone.

In 2014, Bloomberg Businessweek ranked the invention of the pill as one of the top 10 most transformative moments in the business sector over the last 85 years. Access to birth control has not just opened up educational and career opportunities for women, but it has catapulted women into more management roles. In fact, a study showed that the pill is responsible for one-third of women’s wage gains relative to men since the 1960s.

Whether women in this country can take part in the progress we’ve made should not depend on who their bosses are. And an employer’s ideas about proper behavior for women should not determine their ability to plan their futures. Every day, Planned Parenthood doctors and clinicians see women for whom birth control makes school, a career, and providing for their families possible.

Do you know what happens when you come after women, and squarely after the progress they’ve fought for? They don’t leave it unanswered. After all, nearly nine out of 10 women of reproductive age will use birth control at some point in their lives. One in five women will go to Planned Parenthood for care. And nearly one in three women will need access to safe and legal abortion.

That’s why women are organizing in cities and states across the country to take back control of their own lives. Women defeated the disastrous TrumpCare, in all of its forms. And now women will stand up and fight back the same way against this attack on access to birth control.

You can’t un-liberate half the population of this country. We won’t let you.




Danemora -> RE: Yet another Trump lie. (10/21/2017 2:33:28 PM)

Please tell me they are at least not cut as high as hers are though. Ive heard as a man ages, his...well...um...berry pouch start hanging a bit lower and lower on the vine with each passing year. And isnt ol' Artie kinda getting up there in age? What is seen in that ol' berry patch cannot be unseen 😉




Edwird -> RE: Yet another Trump lie. (10/21/2017 3:00:20 PM)

Some people are just natural-born peasants and don't understand why not everybody else wants to be that way.

Democratic voters have nothing to crow about, and should feel some large bit of shame right now.

But in this day, anybody voting Republican is indisputably submissive at heart, all these fat white guys who are afraid to admit that the dreams they experience are of of being a 4 yr. old girl crawling out of the mine pit with a bucket of coal around her neck.




Edwird -> RE: Yet another Trump lie. (10/21/2017 3:05:22 PM)

And yes, that very thing with the 4-5 yr. olds in the mine pit was going on in Newcastle and Wales contemporaneously with them yelling at the US for having slavery.




Edwird -> RE: Yet another Trump lie. (10/21/2017 3:22:27 PM)

The Victorian era, as explicated by Dave Davies in the '60s . . .

Victoria





longwayhome -> RE: Yet another Trump lie. (10/22/2017 4:03:40 AM)

The crime statistics indicate that certain types of violent and sexual crimes have risen in England and Wales.

It seems likely that part of this is due to increased reporting as the crime survey (which reports a higher rate of crime because it asks people to self-report) figures) stats suggest. There has been a fairly unambiguous rise in knife crime, with this rising higher than it was in 2011 (but not higher than in some previous years). Sexual offences and fraud have increased, especially in Police stats, but these figures are definitely also inflated by increased reporting and Police detection rates.

More controversially there has been a rise in hate crime (against minorities, not hate crime caused by Islamic Extremists) but this is hard to pin down as the rise after the Brexit vote has also been accompanied by arise in reporting based on people also being less willing to put up with bigotry.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/june2017

The overall picture of violent crime over the last twenty years has been that of decline. UK citizens experience significantly less crime than in the 1990s and less violent crime than people in the US by a long way. The murder rate in the UK and the EU as a whole is much lower than in the US.

With regard to terrorism, even with the recent attacks, deaths are significantly lower than in the 70s and 80s.

All this has happened at a time when Trump supposes that there has been a significant rise in crime and that the UK has been swamped with mainly Muslim immigrants.

Both are untrue. Crime appears to have been rising over the past two years against a wider picture of twenty years of declining crime. Immigrants into the UK have come from a variety of backgrounds, mainly white Europeans recently, and we are long way from the peak of Muslim immigration, whatever Trump's fantasy is about that.

There is nothing to be complacent about in the recently published Police figures for crime in England and Wales, but the ability of a man who claims to have a huge IQ to blame everything on the Muslims only reveals his cognitive or moral shortcomings.

Trump either has trouble distinguishing the difference between lies, inaccuracies, truth and facts. Or he just lies most of the time he opens his mouth.

But he did win the presidential election so that's okay.




Politesub53 -> RE: Yet more leftist ignorance. (10/23/2017 4:51:06 AM)


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things don't seem to be going well in the uk crime wise.



And it takes an American president to enlighten the ignorant little islanders regarding their own crime spree



Neither of you two halfwits could enlighten anyone. Bounty is just deflecting from trumps own words, he (Trump) is trying to blame it all on Radical Islam. I quoted his tweet ffs.





Politesub53 -> RE: Yet another Trump lie. (10/23/2017 5:04:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MercTech


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

The fuckwit is at it again, this time linking Islam to crime with another disingenuous and scaremongering claim.

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Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Just out report: "United Kingdom crime rises 13% annually amid spread of Radical Islamic terror." Not good, we must keep America safe!
3:31 am - 20 Oct 2017



One of real world conceptual icebergs that crashed into public consciousness scattering the "Islam immigrants bring crime" meme all over the civilized world was Rotheram.

At least 1,400 children were subjected to appalling sexual exploitation in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013, a report has found.


http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089

More recently, the huge wave of itinerant immigration has created serious issues in the EU.
Tell the people of Marseilles that a major influx of Islamic immigrants doesn't have an effect on the crime rate.

https://www.thetoptens.com/most-dangerous-cities-europe/marseille-france-551937.asp

https://www.thelocal.fr/20150917/marseille-murder-capital-or-must-see

https://www.smartertravel.com/2017/02/22/tips-marseille-warnings-dangers-stay-safe/

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/214086/french-city-40-muslim-population-most-dangerous-daniel-greenfield


More racist bullshit. hardly surprising you think its true when you are linking to a scum based right wing rag like frontpage.

You are also so stupid that you didnt work out that most of those involved in Rotherham were of British Pakistani origin, not radical islam as claimed by Trump. The figures also include the 96 killed in the Hillsborough football stadium disaster, as the police were found to have been negligent in crowd control.




MercTech -> RE: Yet another Trump lie. (10/23/2017 1:56:07 PM)

@Politesub53
A> Islam is a religious and circuital item and not a race.
B> The rampant migration of Islamic people out of the war torn middle east has increased crime rates everywhere they have landed. Period. Dot. End. Well documented.
C> The head in the sand attitude is why crazy howlers opposed a moratorium on immigration to the U.S. from countries known to sponsor terrorism. Until a process to verify the immigrants did not have a criminal record or terrorist ties; wholesale immigration from terrorist countries puts our people at risk.

So you think one link to FrontPage invalidates linking BBC, and an English language local newspaper from Marseilles?

How about Reuters?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-germany-crime/migrants-linked-to-69000-would-be-or-actual-crimes-in-germany-in-first-three-months-of-2016-police-idUSKCN0YT28V

Sheesh.
Ad Hominem like crazy. The EU is dealing with high crime with a vengeance with middle eastern culture being incompatible with EU values. Putting the fingers in the ears and going "LaLaLa" doesn't halt it. Attacking anyone who points it out provides no solution.




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