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tweakabelle you should understand that our starting point of view determines how we look at facts. We can arrive at different conclusions by assigning more or less weight to the facts and more than one result can be valid. Very seldom do I agree with the likes of Bosco but I can understand how he arrives at his conclusions... sometimes...lol

Butch

If the "facts" are interpreted differently are they really true facts?

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

tweakabelle you should understand that our starting point of view determines how we look at facts. We can arrive at different conclusions by assigning more or less weight to the facts and more than one result can be valid. Very seldom do I agree with the likes of Bosco but I can understand how he arrives at his conclusions... sometimes...lol

Butch

If the "facts" are interpreted differently are they really true facts?

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

tweakabelle you should understand that our starting point of view determines how we look at facts. We can arrive at different conclusions by assigning more or less weight to the facts and more than one result can be valid. Very seldom do I agree with the likes of Bosco but I can understand how he arrives at his conclusions... sometimes...lol

Butch

If the "facts" are interpreted differently are they really true facts?

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Is the glass half full or half empty? Yes.
Is Obama half black or half white? Yes.
Is Schrodenger's cat dead or alive? Yes.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

tweakabelle you should understand that our starting point of view determines how we look at facts. We can arrive at different conclusions by assigning more or less weight to the facts and more than one result can be valid. Very seldom do I agree with the likes of Bosco but I can understand how he arrives at his conclusions... sometimes...lol

Butch

If the "facts" are interpreted differently are they really true facts?

What we call "facts" are items of general agreement or consensus that are the products of interpreting data through perception and certain forms and structures of thinking/analytic modes, that are then said to describe 'reality'. Human perception, cultural and ideological bias, langauge, personal and cultural experiences and a vast array of interests, needs and desires are all at play during these processes, selecting the data to be processed, influencing the manner in which it is processed and therefore the conclusions of those processes.

Perhaps rather than using the term "fact(s)" at all, might it be preferable to agree that it is all interpetation(s)? And when considering whether it might be preferable or not, one ought to keep in mind that in doing so, we are ourselves engaging in a process of determining what a "fact" might or might not be ....

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If you are, say, Jessica McClure and fall into a well there is no question regarding facts, there is nothing to interpret. If you are the people of midland Texas and you hear about a child that has fallen into a well, there is nothing to interpret, as Mencius noted.

If you are a miner who was underground during the August 2010 mining collapse in Chile, there is very little to interpret. If you are an engineer that just designed and built a water purification plant, when you push the start button either the plant works or it does not, as many people in Flint might testify.

Your interpretation is BS. Oh sure a lot of current philosophers, feminists, critical race theorists and what not would agree with you, but they are pretty much BS as well.