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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
I took out the part of the quote about how Muslim women dress because not every thread in this section has to be about a particular poster's issue with them. I'd rather focus on this self control thing.
If you're up to it, I would like to hear your perspective on exactly why any human can exhibit SELF control in practically every other area of life until it comes to sexual urges. You can exhibit SELF control over things like how much you eat, what you drink, where you go, how you conduct yourself in all of your interactions with other human beings, until an attractive woman happens to wear a low cut evening gown. Suddenly, you want to make this internal thing (self control) an external responsibility?
what your positing doesn’t fit what im saying, so its not really a right question. Giving someone attention, especially when attention is being sought, is not a matter, or at least solely a matter of self control. It’s a matter of navigating the very unsure waters of what attention is appropriate.
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
I will absolutely cop to being a person who 'dresses for the occasion'. What I am wearing right now is not the same thing I would wear to a five star restaurant, a formal wedding, or any place where I knew the press would be there, (if I happened to be famous) and there would be pictures plastered all over the internet of me.
I wouldn’t equate “dressing for the occasion” as necessarily being the same as “dressing for attention” though there is some overlap I suppose.
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
I'm willing to bet good money that the whole 'getting attention' thing from your perspective wouldn't be so rockin' if it came in your direction from males who happen to have a different sexual orientation than you. When is the last time a gay man grabbed your @ss because you looked fine in a tailored suit? You wanted the attention, right?
It’s a bit difficult to figure out why you posed that question to me, but im nevertheless going to suggest I have already addressed that in my post to greta when I said:
“…the distinction of wanted attention and unwanted attention. some of that might be a factor of the type of attention, but I suspect, more often than not, its not the type of attention, its WHO is bringing the attention.”
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Exactly how many women of your casual acquaintance have 'rubbed their p^ssy' in front of you?
The same amount of my casual acquaintances who have dressed their women head to toe. Why are you even asking me that?? that picture is simply there as one end of an extreme continuum, opposite the other end of the extreme continuum. the point being, again, that the answer is somewhere in the middle.
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Please. Do continue about how your 'base nature' dictates your life.
This was the final phrase that put me over the edge into saying “pissing match.” You very easily could have just asked me to elaborate, instead you went with combatively snarky for no reason I can tell.
In any event, I trust you have seen the proverbial devil on one shoulder and angel on the other shoulder depicted in tv, movies, etc., trying to influence the actions of the person in the middle. That skit resonates because it accurately depicts humanity and we all identify with it.
Law, education, parenting, social convention, church, etc---all those things and more help mankind exist in a state of civilization as opposed to a state of nature.
Regardless, It does not follow from anything ive said that my “’base nature’ dictates my life.”
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
It's not a man vrs women thing. What you are clearly missing is it is the receiver of the attention thing, and yes, believe it or not, that's the person who gets to decide if the attention is wanted or not. It's really not that difficult of a concept.
No, its not a man VS woman thing but in the context of the conversation, ive used man as the attention giver and woman as the attention receiver. Sooooooooooo….
At the same time, if you want to posit that women are as visually oriented as men, and find men’s physical parts as immediately sexually stimulating as men do women’s, have at it.
Lastly, I believe I also addressed your point about the “receiver”, again, with this:
”…the distinction of wanted attention and unwanted attention. some of that might be a factor of the type of attention, but I suspect, more often than not, its not the type of attention, its WHO is bringing the attention.”
so I wasn't "clearly" missing it.
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I do have to wonder if the reaction in the photo was staged in the attempt of a joke, that might have been discussed before the picture was taken. 
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