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bounty44 -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/31/2017 7:03:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MercTech
Wait for facts, report the facts, and quit faking up unsupported conclusions to support a narrative.


THAT, is going on here in spades.




Lucylastic -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/31/2017 7:04:18 PM)

Yoou mean like the right wanted obama to fail...and especially hilaries guilt to be real,
Partisan hack




Danemora -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/31/2017 7:05:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bounty44


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ORIGINAL: Danemora

Exactly. Start at the bottom of the cesspool and Mueller is working his way up the chain. Loving it!


in a very real way, this is a very sad statement. there is no evidence of trump doing anything illegal, and yet, if my assumption is right in regards to who you are thinking of---you want him to have done something illegal, you want him to fail.



Read my post #196. I specifically said I dont think Trump will be indicted. If it touched on your sad place even after that, Im afraid you might officially be too sensitive for the internet. Or you can quit reading shit that isnt there. Either. Or. Your choice




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/31/2017 7:08:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech
Wait for facts, report the facts, and quit faking up unsupported conclusions to support a narrative.


THAT, is going on here in spades.




Agreed.

See my post #193




Danemora -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/31/2017 7:08:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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I need to quit working out because Lucy babe never saw a guy with a real chest

Those saggy assed tits are from working out?

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Lifting donuts to his yammering maw? That can be a workout, right? [:)]




stef -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/31/2017 7:22:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Danemora


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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I need to quit working out because Lucy babe never saw a guy with a real chest

Those saggy assed tits are from working out?

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Lifting donuts to his yammering maw? That can be a workout, right? [:)]

Poor deluded Artie. Flabby man-jugs are not pecs, as much as he wishes to believe they are.




Lucylastic -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/31/2017 7:27:07 PM)

I just thought he had a magnificent meltdown. Moobs is just being moobs




Lucylastic -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/31/2017 7:34:00 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech
Wait for facts, report the facts, and quit faking up unsupported conclusions to support a narrative.


THAT, is going on here in spades.


hillary and her emails.....benghazi....uranium one....she is guilty without any charges, evidence or proof
fact is that George P has plead guilty, to lying to the FBI who had the information about WHAT he was lying about and its directly tied to russians and the campaign.
PS while trump may not get jailed...like hillary and her "team" you believe she is guilty of everything... On much lighter evidence, plausible deniability? right.





MasterJaguar01 -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/31/2017 7:43:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Danemora

Exactly. Start at the bottom of the cesspool and Mueller is working his way up the chain. Loving it!


We'll find out what Clovis said to the Grand Jury soon.

My prediction is that Clovis has already folded.




BoscoX -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/31/2017 8:31:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/31/politics/manafort-3-passports/index.html




One of your main go-to sources for disinformation, CNN:

CNN’s Undisclosed Ties To Fusion GPS

CNN’s reporting on the Trump-Russia dossier has left out at least one crucial fact: the close ties between the network and the opposition research firm at the center of the dossier controversy.

CNN’s reporting on the dossier, led by justice correspondent Evan Perez, has been favorable to the firm, Fusion GPS, and hyped the dossier’s credibility. Left out of Perez’s reporting, which has relied largely on unnamed sources, is his personal closeness to Fusion GPS’ operatives. Fusion has repeatedly been described in Senate testimonies as a smear-for-hire operation that manufactures misleading or false media narratives for its clients.

Glenn Simpson, the Fusion co-founder most often associated with the dossier, is used to working on stories with Perez. As reporters at The Wall Street Journal, Perez and Simpson regularly co-authored stories on national security.

Another Fusion founder, Tom Catan, worked as a reporter for the Journal at the same time as Perez and Simpson. The third Fusion co-founder, Peter Fritsch, worked above Perez and Simpson as the senior national security editor.

Simpson and Fritsch left the WSJ in 2011 to launch Fusion. Perez jumped from the paper to CNN in 2013. Another longtime Journal reporter, Neil King, left the paper to join Fusion in December 2016.

Photos posted to Facebook underscore the personal closeness between Perez and the Fusion GPS operatives. One photo posted by Perez shows King, who left the Journal for Fusion in December 2016, and another man posing for a picture at The Bullpen, an outdoor bar right outside of the Washington Nationals’ stadium.

The Bullpen is a popular fan destination before baseball games. King is shown wearing a shirt with the Nationals name and logo across the front. The photo was posted in August 2016, four months before King joined Fusion GPS.

Neil King is seen on the left, in a photo posted by CNN reporter Evan Perez. (Screenshot/Facebook)

Another photo, from September 2015, shows Perez, King and Fusion co-founder Peter Fritsch.

In 2011, the same year that Fritsch co-founded Fusion, Perez posted two photos on Facebook from an apparent fishing trip with Fritsch. The photos show the Wall Street Journal alum holding a fishing rod and standing ankle-deep in a lake. In one of the photos, Fritsch can be seen flipping the camera his middle finger.

At no point in Perez’s reporting did he disclose his close ties to the Fusion GPS operatives.

The Wall Street Journal’s editorial board sounded the alarm about its former reporters in a remarkable editorial earlier this month, accusing Beltway media of being complicit in a coverup with Fusion. “Americans don’t need a Justice Department coverup abetted by Glenn Simpson’s media buddies,” the editors wrote in a scathing takedown of the firm.

Simpson’s wife, Mary Jacoby, bragged about his role in the dossier in a lengthy June 2017 Facebook post reviewed by The Daily Caller.

Jacoby claimed that “some people still don’t realize what Glenn’s role was in exposing Putin’s control of Donald Trump,” referencing the dossier’s thesis. The dossier claimed that Russians had evidence of damaging information on Trump that they would use to blackmail him, an explosive accusation for which there remains no public evidence.

CNN’s coverage of the dossier has been relatively soft. CNN anchor Jake Tapper, usually known for his aggressive coverage, gave Fusion a pass while reporting on the story Wednesday evening.

“Certainly some of the more lurid charges in that dossier remain uncorroborated, but some of the details have been proven accurate,” Tapper said. But the newsman failed to mention reporting he did back in January that called the dossier’s credibility into question.

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Lucylastic -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/31/2017 8:42:28 PM)

try being on topic..
more deflection




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (11/1/2017 3:41:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/31/politics/manafort-3-passports/index.html




One of your main go-to sources for disinformation, CNN:

CNN’s Undisclosed Ties To Fusion GPS

CNN’s reporting on the Trump-Russia dossier has left out at least one crucial fact: the close ties between the network and the opposition research firm at the center of the dossier controversy.

CNN’s reporting on the dossier, led by justice correspondent Evan Perez, has been favorable to the firm, Fusion GPS, and hyped the dossier’s credibility. Left out of Perez’s reporting, which has relied largely on unnamed sources, is his personal closeness to Fusion GPS’ operatives. Fusion has repeatedly been described in Senate testimonies as a smear-for-hire operation that manufactures misleading or false media narratives for its clients.

Glenn Simpson, the Fusion co-founder most often associated with the dossier, is used to working on stories with Perez. As reporters at The Wall Street Journal, Perez and Simpson regularly co-authored stories on national security.

Another Fusion founder, Tom Catan, worked as a reporter for the Journal at the same time as Perez and Simpson. The third Fusion co-founder, Peter Fritsch, worked above Perez and Simpson as the senior national security editor.

Simpson and Fritsch left the WSJ in 2011 to launch Fusion. Perez jumped from the paper to CNN in 2013. Another longtime Journal reporter, Neil King, left the paper to join Fusion in December 2016.

Photos posted to Facebook underscore the personal closeness between Perez and the Fusion GPS operatives. One photo posted by Perez shows King, who left the Journal for Fusion in December 2016, and another man posing for a picture at The Bullpen, an outdoor bar right outside of the Washington Nationals’ stadium.

The Bullpen is a popular fan destination before baseball games. King is shown wearing a shirt with the Nationals name and logo across the front. The photo was posted in August 2016, four months before King joined Fusion GPS.

Neil King is seen on the left, in a photo posted by CNN reporter Evan Perez. (Screenshot/Facebook)

Another photo, from September 2015, shows Perez, King and Fusion co-founder Peter Fritsch.

In 2011, the same year that Fritsch co-founded Fusion, Perez posted two photos on Facebook from an apparent fishing trip with Fritsch. The photos show the Wall Street Journal alum holding a fishing rod and standing ankle-deep in a lake. In one of the photos, Fritsch can be seen flipping the camera his middle finger.

At no point in Perez’s reporting did he disclose his close ties to the Fusion GPS operatives.

The Wall Street Journal’s editorial board sounded the alarm about its former reporters in a remarkable editorial earlier this month, accusing Beltway media of being complicit in a coverup with Fusion. “Americans don’t need a Justice Department coverup abetted by Glenn Simpson’s media buddies,” the editors wrote in a scathing takedown of the firm.

Simpson’s wife, Mary Jacoby, bragged about his role in the dossier in a lengthy June 2017 Facebook post reviewed by The Daily Caller.

Jacoby claimed that “some people still don’t realize what Glenn’s role was in exposing Putin’s control of Donald Trump,” referencing the dossier’s thesis. The dossier claimed that Russians had evidence of damaging information on Trump that they would use to blackmail him, an explosive accusation for which there remains no public evidence.

CNN’s coverage of the dossier has been relatively soft. CNN anchor Jake Tapper, usually known for his aggressive coverage, gave Fusion a pass while reporting on the story Wednesday evening.

“Certainly some of the more lurid charges in that dossier remain uncorroborated, but some of the details have been proven accurate,” Tapper said. But the newsman failed to mention reporting he did back in January that called the dossier’s credibility into question.

MORE



So, CNN reporters had ties to Fusion GPS and failed to disclose them (according to the Daily Caller!)

Therefore, Mueller charged Manafort, Gates, and Popadopoulous????

Jake Tapper states 100% factually: “Certainly some of the more lurid charges in that dossier remain uncorroborated, but some of the details have been proven accurate,” because some CNN people went fishing with people with Fusion GPS founders?

So, if they didn't go fishing, he would inaccurately deride the dossier as "phony" or "dirty" as the right wing media does? Maybe Jake Tapper should just read the Daily Caller, to learn what to report??


Bosco, I love ya man... Really... But besides being incredibly off-topic, this article is just ridiculous.




Lucylastic -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (11/1/2017 3:43:34 AM)

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/veteran-spy-gave-fbi-info-alleging-russian-operation-cultivate-donald-trump/

October last year....DAVID CORN OCT. 31, 2016 11:52 PM

On Friday, FBI Director James Comey set off a political blast when he informed congressional leaders that the bureau had stumbled across emails that might be pertinent to its completed inquiry into Hillary Clinton’s handling of emails when she was secretary of state. The Clinton campaign and others criticized Comey for intervening in a presidential campaign by breaking with Justice Department tradition and revealing information about an investigation—information that was vague and perhaps ultimately irrelevant—so close to Election Day. On Sunday, Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid upped the ante. He sent Comey a fiery letter saying the FBI chief may have broken the law and pointed to a potentially greater controversy: “In my communications with you and other top officials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government…The public has a right to know this information.”

Reid’s missive set off a burst of speculation on Twitter and elsewhere. What was he referring to regarding the Republican presidential nominee? At the end of August, Reid had written to Comey and demanded an investigation of the “connections between the Russian government and Donald Trump’s presidential campaign,” and in that letter he indirectly referred to Carter Page, an American businessman cited by Trump as one of his foreign policy advisers, who had financial ties to Russia and had recently visited Moscow. Last month, Yahoo News reported that US intelligence officials were probing the links between Page and senior Russian officials. (Page has called accusations against him “garbage.”) On Monday, NBC News reported that the FBI has mounted a preliminary inquiry into the foreign business ties of Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chief. But Reid’s recent note hinted at more than the Page or Manafort affairs. And a former senior intelligence officer for a Western country who specialized in Russian counterintelligence tells Mother Jones that in recent months he provided the bureau with memos, based on his recent interactions with Russian sources, contending the Russian government has for years tried to co-opt and assist Trump—and that the FBI requested more information from him.

“This is something of huge significance, way above party politics,” the former intelligence officer says. “I think [Trump’s] own party should be aware of this stuff as well.”
Does this mean the FBI is investigating whether Russian intelligence has attempted to develop a secret relationship with Trump or cultivate him as an asset? Was the former intelligence officer and his material deemed credible or not? An FBI spokeswoman says, “Normally, we don’t talk about whether we are investigating anything.” But a senior US government official not involved in this case but familiar with the former spy tells Mother Jones that he has been a credible source with a proven record of providing reliable, sensitive, and important information to the US government.

In June, the former Western intelligence officer—who spent almost two decades on Russian intelligence matters and who now works with a US firm that gathers information on Russia for corporate clients—was assigned the task of researching Trump’s dealings in Russia and elsewhere, according to the former spy and his associates in this American firm. This was for an opposition research project originally financed by a Republican client critical of the celebrity mogul. (Before the former spy was retained, the project’s financing switched to a client allied with Democrats.) “It started off as a fairly general inquiry,” says the former spook, who asks not to be identified. But when he dug into Trump, he notes, he came across troubling information indicating connections between Trump and the Russian government. According to his sources, he says, “there was an established exchange of information between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin of mutual benefit.”

This was, the former spy remarks, “an extraordinary situation.” He regularly consults with US government agencies on Russian matters, and near the start of July on his own initiative—without the permission of the US company that hired him—he sent a report he had written for that firm to a contact at the FBI, according to the former intelligence officer and his American associates, who asked not to be identified. (He declines to identify the FBI contact.) The former spy says he concluded that the information he had collected on Trump was “sufficiently serious” to share with the FBI.

Mother Jones has reviewed that report and other memos this former spy wrote. The first memo, based on the former intelligence officer’s conversations with Russian sources, noted, “Russian regime has been cultivating, supporting and assisting TRUMP for at least 5 years. Aim, endorsed by PUTIN, has been to encourage splits and divisions in western alliance.” It maintained that Trump “and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his Democratic and other political rivals.” It claimed that Russian intelligence had “compromised” Trump during his visits to Moscow and could “blackmail him.” It also reported that Russian intelligence had compiled a dossier on Hillary Clinton based on “bugged conversations she had on various visits to Russia and intercepted phone calls.”

The former intelligence officer says the response from the FBI was “shock and horror.” The FBI, after receiving the first memo, did not immediately request additional material, according to the former intelligence officer and his American associates. Yet in August, they say, the FBI asked him for all information in his possession and for him to explain how the material had been gathered and to identify his sources. The former spy forwarded to the bureau several memos—some of which referred to members of Trump’s inner circle. After that point, he continued to share information with the FBI. “It’s quite clear there was or is a pretty substantial inquiry going on,” he says.

“This is something of huge significance, way above party politics,” the former intelligence officer comments. “I think [Trump’s] own party should be aware of this stuff as well.”

The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment regarding the memos. In the past, Trump has declared, “I have nothing to do with Russia.”

The FBI is certainly investigating the hacks attributed to Russia that have hit American political targets, including the Democratic National Committee and John Podesta, the chairman of Clinton’s presidential campaign. But there have been few public signs of whether that probe extends to examining possible contacts between the Russian government and Trump. (In recent weeks, reporters in Washington have pursued anonymous online reports that a computer server related to the Trump Organization engaged in a high level of activity with servers connected to Alfa Bank, the largest private bank in Russia. On Monday, a Slate investigation detailed the pattern of unusual server activity but concluded, “We don’t yet know what this [Trump] server was for, but it deserves further explanation.” In an email to Mother Jones, Hope Hicks, a Trump campaign spokeswoman, maintains, “The Trump Organization is not sending or receiving any communications from this email server. The Trump Organization has no communication or relationship with this entity or any Russian entity.”)

According to several national security experts, there is widespread concern in the US intelligence community that Russian intelligence, via hacks, is aiming to undermine the presidential election—to embarrass the United States and delegitimize its democratic elections. And the hacks appear to have been designed to benefit Trump. In August, Democratic members of the House committee on oversight wrote Comey to ask the FBI to investigate “whether connections between Trump campaign officials and Russian interests may have contributed to these [cyber] attacks in order to interfere with the US. presidential election.” In September, Sen. Dianne Feinstein and Rep. Adam Schiff, the senior Democrats on, respectively, the Senate and House intelligence committees, issued a joint statement accusing Russia of underhanded meddling: “Based on briefings we have received, we have concluded that the Russian intelligence agencies are making a serious and concerted effort to influence the U.S. election. At the least, this effort is intended to sow doubt about the security of our election and may well be intended to influence the outcomes of the election.” The Obama White House has declared Russia the culprit in the hacking capers, expressed outrage, and promised a “proportional” response.

There’s no way to tell whether the FBI has confirmed or debunked any of the allegations contained in the former spy’s memos. But a Russian intelligence attempt to co-opt or cultivate a presidential candidate would mark an even more serious operation than the hacking.

In the letter Reid sent to Comey on Sunday, he pointed out that months ago he had asked the FBI director to release information on Trump’s possible Russia ties. Since then, according to a Reid spokesman, Reid has been briefed several times. The spokesman adds, “He is confident that he knows enough to be extremely alarmed.”




Lucylastic -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (11/1/2017 3:46:43 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01


So, CNN reporters had ties to Fusion GPS and failed to disclose them (according to the Daily Caller!)

Therefore, Mueller charged Manafort, Gates, and Popadopoulous????

Jake Tapper states 100% factually: “Certainly some of the more lurid charges in that dossier remain uncorroborated, but some of the details have been proven accurate,” because some CNN people went fishing with people with Fusion GPS founders?

So, if they didn't go fishing, he would inaccurately deride the dossier as "phony" or "dirty" as the right wing media does? Maybe Jake Tapper should just read the Daily Caller, to learn what to report??


Bosco, I love ya man... Really... But besides being incredibly off-topic, this article is just ridiculous.


Not to mention that Buzzfeed was the first to break the story, Not CNN
But then we are talking about tucker carlsons website proposing this. And he hasnt been deflecting or lying much at all(HAHAHHA)




NoGutsNoGlory -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (11/1/2017 4:42:08 AM)

The takeaway is that every member of trumps campaign is being indicted or under a cloud for cause, and as a typical republican idiot he is truly unaware of the facts of this matter, it is the ONLY possible explanation.

Niger! Niger! Niger!
Emails! Emails! Emails!
Collusion! Collusion! Collusion!
Conspiracy! Conspiracy! Conspiracy!
Communism! Communism! Communism!






tweakabelle -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (11/1/2017 4:53:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

So, CNN reporters had ties to Fusion GPS and failed to disclose them (according to the Daily Caller!)

Therefore, Mueller charged Manafort, Gates, and Popadopoulous????



Omitted from your forensic examination of the ties linking Fusion GPS and CNN operativesreporters is a crucial piece of information that proves beyond any doubt the malignant conspiracy between these parties that succeeded in hoodwinking the FBI into charging these fine upstanding Americans, whose loyalty to the flag the Constitution Mum apple pie and all that is irreproachable :

Occasionally they go to baseball games together

I'm sure you will agree that this important revelation seals the deal with irrefutable finality. It is the icing on the cake, the kind of thing only liberal purveyors of fake news would do ... no red blooded American would allow themselves to be caught in such conpromising circumstances, would they? I mean really it just couldn't be any clearer or more obvious, could it?




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (11/1/2017 5:04:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle


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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

So, CNN reporters had ties to Fusion GPS and failed to disclose them (according to the Daily Caller!)

Therefore, Mueller charged Manafort, Gates, and Popadopoulous????



Omitted from your examination of the ties linking Fusion GPS and CNN operativesreporters is a crucial piece of information that proves beyond any doubt the malignant conspiracy between these parties:

Occasionally they go to baseball games together

I'm sure you will agree that this important revelation seals the deal with irrefutable finality. It is the icing on the cake, the kind of thing only liberal purveyors of fake news would do ... no red blooded American would allow themselves to be caught in such conpromising circumstances, would they? I mean really it just couldn't be any clearer or more obvious, could it?



All kidding aside, any CNN reporter with ties to Fusion GPS founders who reported on the story simply should have handed off the story to another reporter.

Point taken.

1. What about all the other media outlets who are reporting on the story, that have NO ties to Fusion GPS?
2. What does this have to do with Mueller?
3. Also, the criticism of Jake Tapper's factual description of the dossier as being "soft" is rather ridiculous.




BoscoX -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (11/1/2017 5:17:17 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

try being on topic..
more deflection


The fake dossier was the grounds for every part of this coup attempt




NoGutsNoGlory -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (11/1/2017 5:18:27 AM)

Apparently, the staid tried and true right wing has ties to Fusion GPS, they originated the oppo research that was resold to the democrats.
Looks like Faux and Townhall is untrustworthy Fake News now. (oh no, comrades!)




Lucylastic -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (11/1/2017 5:24:43 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

try being on topic..
more deflection


The fake dossier was the grounds for every part of this coup attempt

evidence???? because that has been argued, please do your worst...LOL




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