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MrRodgers -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/28/2017 7:27:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 here's your first one fool---that manafort's activities with Ukraine, or Russia or whoever prior to being associated with the trump campaign, so far as anyone can tell at the moment, have nothing to do with the whole leftist charge of trump's "Russian collusion." the whole "trump jr meeting with a Russian lawyer" is a very big "so what?" both of those things have been said repeatedly, well before your breathless "charges filed" news. what that means is, anything damning exists only so far in your wet dreams. but then of course, any refutation, no matter how sound, is a "denial or downplay" right? interesting that you get to be the sole arbiter of truth here no matter how absurd your thinking. and as to this: "rwnj"---right, everyone who disagrees with or thinks differently than you is a "nutjob"---the word juvenile comes to mind. so does this... [sm=runaway.gif][sm=runaway.gif][sm=runaway.gif][sm=runaway.gif] Yes, we all see...sounds like a RWNJ. Liberals are traitors.

MasterJaguar01 -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/28/2017 7:49:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic No, you stated quote: here's your first one fool---that manafort's activities with Ukraine, or Russia or whoever prior to being associated with the trump campaign, so far as anyone can tell at the moment, have nothing to do with the whole leftist charge of trump's "Russian collusion." Your wet dreams are dry Isn't there a cream for that? let it rot.... Wet Dream dryness is a serious and CHRONIC problem for Trump sycophants. I am shocked and apalled by your callous attitude..

heavyblinker -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/28/2017 7:58:00 AM)
WTF Trump isn't a central figure in an investigation that includes potential obstruction of justice charges against Trump over the Comey firing? If the RWNJs didn't have minds like goldfish, maybe FOX would be less effective?

WhoreMods -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/28/2017 8:00:51 AM)
Myself, I just wonder how you can tel that somebody's a right winger from the way they suck your balls: a "nut job" is some sort of cutesy term for teabagging, right?

MrRodgers -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/28/2017 8:07:53 AM)
We think it's about time but be patient now. After all of the months of previous investigating and with the firing of the spec. pros. (Archibald Cox)...after all of that, it still took 8 mos. for articles of impeachment were passed charging Nixon. July 72 break-in, and over 2 years altogether Aug. 74 POTUS resignation.

Lucylastic -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/28/2017 8:15:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic No, you stated quote: here's your first one fool---that manafort's activities with Ukraine, or Russia or whoever prior to being associated with the trump campaign, so far as anyone can tell at the moment, have nothing to do with the whole leftist charge of trump's "Russian collusion." Your wet dreams are dry Isn't there a cream for that? let it rot.... Wet Dream dryness is a serious and CHRONIC problem for Trump sycophants. I am shocked and apalled by your callous attitude.. heh im a fluffy bunny

sissificationsub -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/28/2017 8:19:13 AM)
Junior! Forgot about him. And from that article “In fact, Manafort had alerted authorities to a controversial meeting on June 9, 2016, involving Trump’s son Donald Jr., other campaign representatives and a Russian lawyer promising damaging information on Hillary Clinton, according to people familiar with the matter. The president and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, were dragged into the matter in July as details repeatedly emerged that contradicted the initial accounts of that meeting.” Might put a fiver on Jared Kushner and halfpenny on some horse called Hillary Someone. I better check with Bill Maher The Kremlin Konnection Real Time with Bill Maher

Lucylastic -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/28/2017 8:28:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods Myself, I just wonder how you can tel that somebody's a right winger from the way they suck your balls: a "nut job" is some sort of cutesy term for teabagging, right? as a teabagger, I can only hope....I dont have balls, but yanno....[:D][:D][:D][:D]

Lucylastic -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/28/2017 8:30:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers We think it's about time but be patient now. After all of the months of previous investigating and with the firing of the spec. pros. (Archibald Cox)...after all of that, it still took 8 mos. for articles of impeachment were passed charging Nixon. July 72 break-in, and over 2 years altogether Aug. 74 POTUS resignation. patience..im so not good with it. Its the first monday I have ever looked forward to, even if it doesnt work out the way Im hoping. Im floating around some live chats right now and the trumpers are desperate...quoting trump, shammity and others. Ive heard just this morning 7 versions of uranium one. Im not making any guesses on what or who it is, its been left out there to fester over the weekend, Im reading everything I can right now and listening to news, from both sides. I kinda hope it is hillary...because it wont be the first indictment...

heavyblinker -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/28/2017 8:45:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 here's your first one fool---that manafort's activities with Ukraine, or Russia or whoever prior to being associated with the trump campaign, so far as anyone can tell at the moment, have nothing to do with the whole leftist charge of trump's "Russian collusion." the whole "trump jr meeting with a Russian lawyer" is a very big "so what?" both of those things have been said repeatedly, well before your breathless "charges filed" news. what that means is, anything damning exists only so far in your wet dreams. but then of course, any refutation, no matter how sound, is a "denial or downplay" right? interesting that you get to be the sole arbiter of truth here no matter how absurd your thinking. and as to this: "rwnj"---right, everyone who disagrees with or thinks differently than you is a "nutjob"---the word juvenile comes to mind. so does this... [sm=runaway.gif][sm=runaway.gif][sm=runaway.gif][sm=runaway.gif] Yes, we all see...sounds like a RWNJ. Liberals are traitors. I am frankly amazed that after all of the shit that has been slung on this forum, I am still capable of hurting poor sensitive bounty44's tender feelings. It's really telling that he automatically interprets as hysteria any post that might further undermine Trump's already ridiculously flawed character. I wasn't at all angry or excited when I posted it... more like caught up in the perverse thrill of potentially watching a total fucking scumbag have his whole life ruined. The neofascist movement Trump has allied himself with is far more objectionable than any crime that any individual associated with it could have possibly committed, and the sooner it is stopped the better... but while a public disgrace like Trump in jail for money laundering and conspiracy would be a huge PR win, it really has no bearing on whether or not his talking points survive. It's not like it says anything about his moronic supporters that we didn't already know, and his personal dealings have absolutely no bearing on whether or not you're still allowed to mindlessly parrot traditional conservative talking points. So why exactly are the RWNJs so oblivious to what is going on here? An attack on Trump's dodgy business dealings and dodgy political associates has nothing to do with what you believe in, so why is it so necessary to cling desperately to the belief that he did nothing wrong? How can anyone actually look at this guy and think 'no way he did anything wrong' or 'I am so proud that he is the leader of my country'? I get arguing politics from conservative perspectives, but defending Trump??? Why???? It's supposed to be about the IDEAS, not the PEOPLE or the PARTY. This is why we will never get along, ever. If you have an argument to make, fine... but all of this 'this isn't about Trump, stop saying it's about Trump, Trump is fine, it's not about Trump... it's HILLARY and ONLY Hillary' BS is what keeps the whole RWNJ name alive.

BoscoX -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/28/2017 9:15:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 here's your first one fool---that manafort's activities with Ukraine, or Russia or whoever prior to being associated with the trump campaign, so far as anyone can tell at the moment, have nothing to do with the whole leftist charge of trump's "Russian collusion." the whole "trump jr meeting with a Russian lawyer" is a very big "so what?" both of those things have been said repeatedly, well before your breathless "charges filed" news. what that means is, anything damning exists only so far in your wet dreams. but then of course, any refutation, no matter how sound, is a "denial or downplay" right? interesting that you get to be the sole arbiter of truth here no matter how absurd your thinking. and as to this: "rwnj"---right, everyone who disagrees with or thinks differently than you is a "nutjob"---the word juvenile comes to mind. so does this... [sm=runaway.gif][sm=runaway.gif][sm=runaway.gif][sm=runaway.gif] Leftist media howlers are all using the same “Trump Russia collaboration” talking points, though tere is far more evidence pointing to team Hillary and their work with Manafort being indicted

sissificationsub -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/28/2017 9:15:30 AM)
Why indeed? If that was a Democrat in charge I would be saying the exact same things as I have said in all my time on all forums and all sites. Do you understand that bounty44? Cast your memory back in all time bounty44. Have you ever seen me attack a "Republican" President? I will attack the Republican establishment for enabling his every move and people who deny the events that have been unfolding in America. I will also attack the Democrat establishment for not speaking out for fear of being viewed as hysterical snowflakes or for political gain – perhaps they think reality will not appeal to to the Rights core base. Trump is not a Republican. America is divided and all that one does is fan those flames with napalm. As for Trump I am not really quite sure what he is. But I know he is not a good person. edit that goes for you too Boscox Cast your mind back have you ever seen me attack an American President before? PS nice debate as always.

MasterJaguar01 -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/28/2017 9:41:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX Leftist media howlers are all using the same “Trump Russia collaboration” talking points, though tere is far more evidence pointing to team Hillary and their work with Manafort being indicted Why do you keep repeating that same lie over and over? I will speculate that Hillary engaged in pay-for-play with many Foundation donors, and direct donors (i.e. Speech customers)... NONE of that has anything to do with the 2016 election. However, there is certainly not FAR more evidence of anything. We know: Manafort was on the payroll of the Party of Regions - An anti-American / Pro Russian group in Ukraine whose members attacked a bus full of American troops. Manafort was made Campaign chairman of the Trump campaign while this was well-known. Trump, after the primaries, changed the Republican platform to soften language on Ukraine. And NOW: http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/25/politics/trump-russia-sanctions/index.html He is delaying enforcing the very sanctions that he signed and Congress voted on - DIRECTLY related to Ukraine. (recalling bounty's inane comment that Manafort's past relationship with Ukraine has NOTHING to do with the investigation) Trump correctly predicted the release of emails on 3 separate occasions from WikiLeaks WikiLeaks was the outlet for Russian hackers. The Russians created fake news stories and bots to promote them which were also promoted by Michael Flynn (including Pizzagate), who BTW received speaking fees from RT. Michael Flynn was made "National Security Advisor" by the Trump Administration. The fake news stories were VERY targeted and had many very regional references. Dozens of experts agree that they had to been guided by American help. Roger Stone was seen at Julian Assange's house The Attorney General, Jeff Sessions lied repeatedly about his Russian connections. Carter Page, the person identified as an intermediary with the Russians in the Steele dossier has repeatedly lied about his Russian connections. Russians were intercepted talking to each other SPECIFICALLY about Carter Page as an intermediary (and a stooge). Carter Page was named as Foreign Policy Advisor by Trump. Compared to... The Hillary campaign, the DNC, and a Fusion GPS attorney paid for perfectly legal Oppo research and lied about it. The Podestas were working with Manafort and a Pro Russian Ukranian group to influence US Policy while Hillary was Sos. Geez... get in line! FAR more evidence? Not even close.

heavyblinker -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/28/2017 10:20:29 AM)
Why does the fact that all of these Hillary-related controversies appear as a direct response by RWNJ news to the Trump controversies never seem to set off any alarm bells?

MasterJaguar01 -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/28/2017 10:52:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker Why does the fact that all of these Hillary-related controversies appear as a direct response by RWNJ news to the Trump controversies never seem to set off any alarm bells? I would say... The answer to that question is fairly obvious. The base... The Fox News crowd will eat it up like catnip. It's well-timed since they knew the Mueller team was ready to indict. Hence the completely non-factually based claims that the Mueller's team's interest in Manafort is SOLELY in the context of Hillary, the DNC, and the Podestas. And that "scandal" is somehow mutually exclusive of anything the Trump campaign has done. Their guilt = Trump's innocence. Bosco posts that line ad infinitum. (I still say he should have his own show, and would be a better Sean Hannity). His posts are 100% identical to Hannity's TV and radio show.

CheriStevens -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/28/2017 12:34:54 PM)
Fucking Idiots. And you enable them all you sick fuker

JVoV -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/28/2017 4:27:55 PM)
Quite frankly, I doubt this first indictment will be against any of the bigger fish in this scandal, as it is still very early in the investigation. I find it much more likely that Mueller has targeted someone that has information valuable to the case, but hasn't been as forthcoming as he wants. An immunity deal will be worked out, and then they'll testify against whatever others are indicted later.

Wayward5oul -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/28/2017 4:33:06 PM)
That's my guess too.

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/29/2017 6:33:06 AM)
quote: My guesses: Manafort and YES That's my guess as well

Nnanji -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/29/2017 10:46:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX Leftist media howlers are all using the same “Trump Russia collaboration” talking points, though tere is far more evidence pointing to team Hillary and their work with Manafort being indicted Why do you keep repeating that same lie over and over? I will speculate that Hillary engaged in pay-for-play with many Foundation donors, and direct donors (i.e. Speech customers)... NONE of that has anything to do with the 2016 election. However, there is certainly not FAR more evidence of anything. We know: Manafort was on the payroll of the Party of Regions - An anti-American / Pro Russian group in Ukraine whose members attacked a bus full of American troops. Manafort was made Campaign chairman of the Trump campaign while this was well-known. Trump, after the primaries, changed the Republican platform to soften language on Ukraine. And NOW: http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/25/politics/trump-russia-sanctions/index.html He is delaying enforcing the very sanctions that he signed and Congress voted on - DIRECTLY related to Ukraine. (recalling bounty's inane comment that Manafort's past relationship with Ukraine has NOTHING to do with the investigation) Trump correctly predicted the release of emails on 3 separate occasions from WikiLeaks WikiLeaks was the outlet for Russian hackers. The Russians created fake news stories and bots to promote them which were also promoted by Michael Flynn (including Pizzagate), who BTW received speaking fees from RT. Michael Flynn was made "National Security Advisor" by the Trump Administration. The fake news stories were VERY targeted and had many very regional references. Dozens of experts agree that they had to been guided by American help. Roger Stone was seen at Julian Assange's house The Attorney General, Jeff Sessions lied repeatedly about his Russian connections. Carter Page, the person identified as an intermediary with the Russians in the Steele dossier has repeatedly lied about his Russian connections. Russians were intercepted talking to each other SPECIFICALLY about Carter Page as an intermediary (and a stooge). Carter Page was named as Foreign Policy Advisor by Trump. Compared to... The Hillary campaign, the DNC, and a Fusion GPS attorney paid for perfectly legal Oppo research and lied about it. The Podestas were working with Manafort and a Pro Russian Ukranian group to influence US Policy while Hillary was Sos. Geez... get in line! FAR more evidence? Not even close. http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/29/obamas-campaign-gave-972000-law-firm-funneled-money-fusion-gps/ quote: The Washington Post reported last week that Perkins Coie, an international law firm, was directed by both the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to retain Fusion GPS in April of 2016 to dig up dirt on then-candidate Donald Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Christopher Steele, a former British spy, to compile a dossier of allegations that Trump and his campaign actively colluded with the Russian government during the 2016 election. Though many of the claims in the dossier have been directly refuted, none of the dossier’s allegations of collusion have been independently verified. Lawyers for Steele admitted in court filings last April that his work was not verified and was never meant to be made public. ... The timing and nature of the payments to Perkins Coie by Obama’s official campaign arm raise significant questions about whether OFA was funding Fusion GPS, how much Obama and his team knew about the contents and provenance of the dossier long before its contents were made public, and whether the president or his government lieutenants knowingly used a partisan political document to justify official government actions targeting the president’s political opponents named in the dossier. According to the Washington Post, Fusion GPS was first retained by Perkins Coie on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign in April of 2016.

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