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MasterJaguar01 -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 5:57:25 AM)
SO now we know it is Manafort (we all suspected) and Rick Gates. They will have Manafort on money laundering and a few other things. Drip, drip, drip, will become gush, gush, gush... This will be a tough November for this administration. One of them is probably going to give them enough info to get Carter Page. Once they get Carter Page and turn him... Game over.

BoscoX -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 6:32:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 SO now we know it is Manafort (we all suspected) and Rick Gates. They will have Manafort on money laundering and a few other things. Drip, drip, drip, will become gush, gush, gush... This will be a tough November for this administration. One of them is probably going to give them enough info to get Carter Page. Once they get Carter Page and turn him... Game over. You're not real bright [:D] quote: Manafort, 68, joined the Trump campaign in March 2016 as the campaign’s convention manager and was promoted to campaign chairman two months later. He stepped away from the campaign in August 2016 amid questions about his foreign business ties. Gates, 45, worked for Manafort’s international firm, Davis Manafort Partners, between 2006 and 2007. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/paul-manafort-trump-campaign-manager-surrender-feds-connection/story?id=50807954 And quote: Manafort’s suspicious financial transactions were flagged as far back as 2012 and forwarded to the FBI’s International Corruption Unit and the Department of Justice, a former Treasury official told reporters. Law enforcement officials said they found red flags in his banking records going back to 2004. Four of the transfers originated with Manafort’s political consulting firm Global Endeavour, which was hired by Yanukovych to consult and lobby on his behalf. Manafort was working with the former Ukrainian president to lobby the U.S. and other Western countries to support for Ukraine’s entry into the European Union. Tony Podesta and the Podesta Group’s involvement in Ukrainian politics is also complicating the situation. Mueller expanded the investigation to focus on Podesta and his Democratic-leaning lobbying firm with connections to Clinton, sources told NBC in an Oct. 24 report. Manafort organized a public relations campaign for a group called European Centre for a Modern Ukraine (ECMU), which lobbied the U.S. to support Ukraine’s EU push. Podesta’s company was one of many firms that worked on the campaign. http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/29/fbis-focus-on-manafort-doesnt-have-anything-to-do-with-russian-collusion-in-the-election/ The leftist media is trying to make a big deal of Manafort's extremely short time working with president Trump while doing it's best to ignore Manafort's dealings with the Democrats But any trials here in the real world will not be judged by your propaganda feeds

MasterJaguar01 -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 6:34:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 SO now we know it is Manafort (we all suspected) and Rick Gates. They will have Manafort on money laundering and a few other things. Drip, drip, drip, will become gush, gush, gush... This will be a tough November for this administration. One of them is probably going to give them enough info to get Carter Page. Once they get Carter Page and turn him... Game over. Lucky guess in my post above... :) From CNN: The indictment against the two men contains 12 counts: conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading US Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts. The faucet is opening.

BoscoX -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 6:46:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 quote: ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 SO now we know it is Manafort (we all suspected) and Rick Gates. They will have Manafort on money laundering and a few other things. Drip, drip, drip, will become gush, gush, gush... This will be a tough November for this administration. One of them is probably going to give them enough info to get Carter Page. Once they get Carter Page and turn him... Game over. Lucky guess in my post above... :) From CNN: The indictment against the two men contains 12 counts: conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading US Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts. The faucet is opening. How much of that do you know for a fact occurred in the two months that Manafort was with the Trump campaign, before Trump fired him? Anyone home over there?

MasterJaguar01 -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 7:02:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 quote: ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 SO now we know it is Manafort (we all suspected) and Rick Gates. They will have Manafort on money laundering and a few other things. Drip, drip, drip, will become gush, gush, gush... This will be a tough November for this administration. One of them is probably going to give them enough info to get Carter Page. Once they get Carter Page and turn him... Game over. Lucky guess in my post above... :) From CNN: The indictment against the two men contains 12 counts: conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading US Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts. The faucet is opening. How much of that do you know for a fact occurred in the two months that Manafort was with the Trump campaign, before Trump fired him? Anyone home over there? Well.... The money laundering largely happened before Manafort was Trump's campaign Manager, but Trump hired him anyway. The conspiracy against the US - probably happened before as well, but may be during. THAT could be Treason, as he was working for a group that ATTACKED US Troops in Ukraine. The rest had to have happened during that time. On another note... Mueller is good! Read the indictment! He lists ALL the shell companies and offshore accounts. That was some serious money laundering! https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download

MasterJaguar01 -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 7:14:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 SO now we know it is Manafort (we all suspected) and Rick Gates. They will have Manafort on money laundering and a few other things. Drip, drip, drip, will become gush, gush, gush... This will be a tough November for this administration. One of them is probably going to give them enough info to get Carter Page. Once they get Carter Page and turn him... Game over. You're not real bright [:D] quote: Manafort, 68, joined the Trump campaign in March 2016 as the campaign’s convention manager and was promoted to campaign chairman two months later. He stepped away from the campaign in August 2016 amid questions about his foreign business ties. Gates, 45, worked for Manafort’s international firm, Davis Manafort Partners, between 2006 and 2007. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/paul-manafort-trump-campaign-manager-surrender-feds-connection/story?id=50807954 And quote: Manafort’s suspicious financial transactions were flagged as far back as 2012 and forwarded to the FBI’s International Corruption Unit and the Department of Justice, a former Treasury official told reporters. Law enforcement officials said they found red flags in his banking records going back to 2004. Four of the transfers originated with Manafort’s political consulting firm Global Endeavour, which was hired by Yanukovych to consult and lobby on his behalf. Manafort was working with the former Ukrainian president to lobby the U.S. and other Western countries to support for Ukraine’s entry into the European Union. Tony Podesta and the Podesta Group’s involvement in Ukrainian politics is also complicating the situation. Mueller expanded the investigation to focus on Podesta and his Democratic-leaning lobbying firm with connections to Clinton, sources told NBC in an Oct. 24 report. Manafort organized a public relations campaign for a group called European Centre for a Modern Ukraine (ECMU), which lobbied the U.S. to support Ukraine’s EU push. Podesta’s company was one of many firms that worked on the campaign. http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/29/fbis-focus-on-manafort-doesnt-have-anything-to-do-with-russian-collusion-in-the-election/ The leftist media is trying to make a big deal of Manafort's extremely short time working with president Trump while doing it's best to ignore Manafort's dealings with the Democrats But any trials here in the real world will not be judged by your propaganda feeds The indictment doesn't mention Russian collusion with the campaign. True. That is the right wing talking point right now. We will hear that over and over. "NOTHING to do with the campaign, or the administration. He was only here a short time." Of course, those of us who see the bigger picture know, that the Manafort indictment is a means to an end.

Lucylastic -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 7:17:12 AM)
thanks for the link MJ:) You would think they would be happy he is gonna be charged...wether or not trump is involved:)

heavyblinker -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 7:36:36 AM)
Trump's own ties to Russian money laundering through real estate deals are probably the best way to get at the truth and take the piece of shit down. This is a very positive development. I wonder if the RWNJs will start trying to pass Manafort off as a lifelong Democrat, despite having worked on multiple GOP presidential campaigns since Ford.

DaddySatyr -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 7:43:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX The leftist media is trying to make a big deal of Manafort's extremely short time working with president Trump while doing it's best to ignore Manafort's dealings with the Democrats But any trials here in the real world will not be judged by your propaganda feeds Ray Charles could have seen this move coming. It never ceases to amaze me how low someone of Mueller's ilk will go to hide their own involvement in dirty dealings. While I don't doubt that Manafort is probably on the hook for a few things (failing to register as a foreign "agent" or whatever they call a lobbyist for a foreign country/company is probably one, also), I doubt that this is anything but a distraction from the incident involving the she-cunt and slick willy and Dumbo ears Obummer giving aid to their good friends (who couldn't possibly be a threat to America, according to Dumbo ears in '12) the Russkia. That that incident isn't receiving more attention (partially as a result of this arrest) is troubling to me. I'll go further: Some of the people that President Trump surrounded himself with made no sense to me. Sessions? I think he's a plant by the establishment to "keep an eye" on President Trump. I believe that's evidenced by him, recusing himself from any investigation having to do with Russia. Lastly, I believe I read Manafort's length of service with Fusion 1 far outdistances his time with the Trump Campaign. Any chance he was "sent" by the DNC (ultimately) or the she-cunt to torpedo the campaign? There are many questions to be answered, here. There are a few Dems that aught to be worrying about how much Manafort knew about the Uranium deal (and the CGI involvement with it) and how much he is willing to share with Federal prosecutors to shave some time off his money-laundering sentence. Hillary for Prison '18 Michael

heavyblinker -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 7:46:25 AM)
Wow, now I guess the investigation by the FBI is a distraction. It's amazing how much power the Democrats have now that the entire government is being run by the GOP. They're even more powerful now than when Obama was in the white house.

Lucylastic -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 7:46:45 AM)
this just from TPM http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/george-papadopoulos-pleads-guilty-lying-to-fbi Former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty earlier this month to making false statements to FBI agents. The case was unsealed Monday, the same day a federal indictment was unsealed against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his partner, Rick Gates, alleging a $75 million money-laundering conspiracy. Read Papadopoulos’ statement of offense below:(full overview) George was a foreign policy advisor for Trump... interesting reading... heh

Lucylastic -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 7:48:29 AM)
"but but hillary"

Lucylastic -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 7:55:17 AM)
WASHINGTON — A professor with close ties to the Russian government told an adviser to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in April 2016 that Moscow had “dirt” on Hillary Clinton in the form of “thousands of emails,” according to court documents unsealed Monday. The adviser, George Papadopoulos, has pleaded guilty to lying to the F.B.I. about that conversation. The plea represents the most explicit evidence connecting the Trump campaign to the Russian government’s meddling in last year’s election. Mr. Papadopoulos repeatedly tried to arrange a meeting between the Trump campaign and Russian government officials, court records show. Mr. Papadopoulos told the F.B.I. in January that the professor was “a nothing.” But Mr. Papadopoulos now acknowledges that he knew the professor had “substantial connections to Russian government officials.” The United States government has concluded that Russia hacked Democratic email accounts and released thousands of embarrassing emails related to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign. The emails began appearing online in the summer of 2016 and the Trump campaign has repeatedly denied any inside knowledge about that. Mr. Papadopoulos was one of a small group of foreign policy advisers that Mr. Trump announced in March 2016. Another of the advisers, Carter Page, has met with the F.B.I. about his own meetings with Russians. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/us/politics/george-papadopoulos-russia.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=b-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news The thot plickens.

BoscoX -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 7:57:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 Of course, those of us who see the bigger picture know, that the Manafort indictment is a means to an end. In your almost cartoonish fantasies Compared to Manafort's dealings with the Democrats, Manafort did virtually nothing with the Trump campaign. I have proven that above, and you refuse to see it

tweakabelle -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 7:58:16 AM)
There will be a few sleepless nights in the White House as the implications of these arrests and charges sink in. Of particular concern will be: 'Who's going to be the first to roll over and rat on those above them in order to save their own necks?' I wonder if US bookmakers are running a book on this? I'm sure there would be lots of interested punters out there ...

BoscoX -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 8:00:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic The United States government has concluded that Russia hacked Democratic email accounts The Obama administration's crooked DoJ did, despite having no access to the "hacked" server

Lucylastic -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 8:06:54 AM)
we arent discussing obama, sorry dood, go fap somewhere else not obama, not hillary, not the DNC fap fap fap

BoscoX -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 8:18:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic we arent discussing obama, sorry dood, go fap somewhere else not obama, not hillary, not the DNC fap fap fap You're the one who made the false assertion, howler [:D]

Lucylastic -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 8:24:17 AM)
what false assertion? quote: The United States government has concluded that Russia hacked Democratic email accounts ??? how is that false??? If you wanna quibble talk to the NYT... again with deflection but it aint gonna work fap fap fap you sad sack

heavyblinker -> RE: First charges filed in Mueller investigation (10/30/2017 8:48:35 AM)
He is talking about the fact that Crowdstrike handed over their info to the FBI, who didn't conduct their own inspection. Crowdstrike was apparently hired by the DNC to make up a lie about Russians being responsible, or maybe the FBI is simply refusing to investigate the case properly. It's a conspiracy theory, and he thinks it's real... but it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. If it were true, then that would mean that the DNC, Crowdstrike and/or the FBI are intentionally concealing the identity of whoever actually hacked the servers, released the info through WikiLeaks and undermined Hillary's campaign. I guess this makes sense because Trump is just so awful that it would be worth letting him win the election and ruin America so they could surprise him later and tell him the joke's on him.

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