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JVoV -> Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa (11/2/2017 1:17:02 PM)
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/02/rick-perry-fossil-fuels-sex-assault-africa-244459 Perry: Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa By DARIUS DIXON 11/02/2017 11:23 AM EDT Energy Secretary Rick Perry suggested on Thursday that increasing fossil fuel use to spread electricity across Africa would help prevent sexual assaults there. Perry, who traveled to South Africa last week to tout the Energy Department’s partnerships there, said he spoke with a young girl who wanted electricity so she could read without relying on the light of a fire “and have those fumes literally killing people. But also from the standpoint of sexual assault.” Story Continued Below “When the lights are on, when you have light that shines — the righteousness, if you will — on those types of acts,” he told an Axios event. Perry was implicitly responding to a protester who yelled that fossil fuels were causing climate change and killing people in poor countries. “Let me tell you, where people are dying in Africa is because of the lack of energy they have there, and it’s going to take fossil fuels to push power out into those villages in Africa.” Since taking the helm at the Energy Department, Perry has said he doubted the scientific consensus that carbon dioxide was causing climate change, and he has sought to promote the use of fossil fuels, including pushing a plan to financially support coal-fired power plants in the U.S. That access to fossil fuels that the U.S. has would also benefit Africa, he said. “From the standpoint of how you really affect people’s lives, fossil fuels is going to play a role in that. I happen to think it’s going to play a positive role, and I wish we could understand it’s not just about us living here in the comfort and confines that we’re in.”

blnymph -> RE: Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa (11/4/2017 5:15:37 AM)
so for that simpleton burning fossil fuels is the only way to get electricity in Africa - and where should those fossil fuels come from (oh the US - well of course shipped across the Atlantic for free for sure ...)? and what money should pay for all that? simple question: if US coal is not competitive on the world market compared to Chinese or Australian already, why should African countries buy it? btw South Africa might be the only one of the few countries in Africa with sufficient coal deposits to have no need for imports

bounty44 -> RE: Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa (11/4/2017 5:55:26 AM)
"'Slightly Clumsy,' But Not Sinister: Rick Perry's Fossil Fuel Remarks" quote: You may have seen headlines over the past 24 hours reporting that Energy Secretary Rick Perry said fossil fuels can prevent rape in Africa. "Energy Secretary Rick Perry Says Fossil Fuels Prevent Sexual Assault," according to NBC News. That headline was only slightly tweaked by the likes of the BBC, USA Today, and the Chicago Tribune. The Federalist's Julie Kelly is here to tell you that those headlines are misleading and simply not true. First, the secretary's remarks, which he made at an energy summit on Thursday: quote: I just got back from Africa…I think I heard a lady say that there are people dying. Let me tell you where people are dying…in Africa because of the lack of energy that they have there. And it’s gonna take fossil fuels to push power out to those villages in Africa, where a young girl told me to my face ‘One of the reasons that electricity is so important to me is not only because I won’t have to try to read by the light of a fire, and have those fumes literally killing people, but also from the standpoint of sexual assault.’ When the lights are on, when you have light, it shines the righteousness, if you will, on those types of acts. So from the standpoint of how you really affect people’s lives, fossil fuels is going to play a role in that. I happen to think it’s going to play a positive role. Perry's comments were "slightly clumsy," Kelly acknowledges, but hardly sinister. Liberal journalists ignored his clearly compassionate tone, she argues. What's more, he actually made some sense. Of course, turning the lights on will not directly stop cases of sexual harassment and rape, but a lack of electricity is a major problem in Africa that is certainly not helping the epidemic. "It is also just common sense to suggest the light generated via electricity is desperately needed throughout this dark continent for a number of humanitarian purposes, including keeping vulnerable populations such as young girls safe at night," Kelly writes. Nevertheless, groups like the Sierra Club are demanding Perry resign over his "twisted remarks." https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/11/03/clearing-up-rick-perrys-fossil-fuel-remarks-n2404472 quote: so for that simpleton burning fossil fuels is the only way to get electricity in Africa - and where should those fossil fuels come from (oh the US - well of course shipped across the Atlantic for free for sure ...)? and what money should pay for all that? simple question: if US coal is not competitive on the world market compared to Chinese or Australian already, why should African countries buy it? btw South Africa might be the only one of the few countries in Africa with sufficient coal deposits to have no need for imports there is nothing in the politico article that suggests any of what you just wrote.

blnymph -> RE: Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa (11/4/2017 6:44:52 AM)
where to begin? ... well someone might have been able to brief that simpleton before leaving his office that South Africa is for sure not short of fossil fuels but the 7th largest coal producer on the planet so the last thing they need there is US coal to produce electricity ... SA is exporting fossil fuels and the low price of coal is part of the economic crisis there is that grade of overall ignorance a general symptom or just specific for that one?

BoscoX -> RE: Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa (11/4/2017 7:01:55 AM)
"Street lights are only for white people" (gotta save the rock, you know).

JVoV -> RE: Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa (11/4/2017 10:11:19 AM)
I didn't add commentary to the article, because it has taken some time to get over the stupidity of the remark. I don't disagree with bringing Africa into the 21st century. Further, I believe it would be a debt the US owes to the continent. But to equate a lack of electricity to rape is fucking ignorant, and blind to what happens even in our own country.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa (11/4/2017 9:28:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV I don't disagree with bringing Africa into the 21st century. Further, I believe it would be a debt the US owes to the continent. Why does the US owe Africa anything?

bounty44 -> RE: Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa (11/5/2017 1:03:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV But to equate a lack of electricity to rape is fucking ignorant, and blind to what happens even in our own country. um, he's not "equating" a lack of electricity to rape---he's saying, actually he's being in agreement with what an African woman said---that a lack of electricity contributes to sexual assault. that some rape here occurs in daylight, or in the presence of electricity is irrelevant.

Edwird -> RE: Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa (11/5/2017 1:00:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV I don't disagree with bringing Africa into the 21st century. Further, I believe it would be a debt the US owes to the continent. Why does the US owe Africa anything? Exactly. That's the point of being the most powerful nation in the world. You don't owe anybody anything, you just bomb the fuck out of them if they get in the way. And all the other country's oil companies get to tag along when administering 'oil democracy,' how convenient. This allows them to stand in 'righteous indignation!' to the US, while reaping the benefits themselves. So it's not like Japan or Germany with their great industrial output and near zero native energy resources are relying on imported energy for any of this (chuckles). So anyway, here is Shell Oil democracy in practice in Nigeria: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Transnational_corps/DrillingKilling_OilNigeria.html Dirty Work

Edwird -> RE: Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa (11/5/2017 4:32:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV I don't disagree with bringing Africa into the 21st century. Further, I believe it would be a debt the US owes to the continent. Why does the US owe Africa anything? Might it occur to you that JVoV is perhaps better read in history than you are? That said, it's hard for me to believe that any American educated person is completely oblivious to the institution of slavery as existed ~ 150 years ago. And, if digging the least bit in to it, the economic benefit to the few obtained thereby.

Edwird -> RE: Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa (11/5/2017 5:00:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri So while on the subject of American history . . . Did you know that Muhammad Ali was originally named as Cassius Marcellus Clay Jr.? It was just "Cassius Clay" at the time. Named after his father, of course, who himself was named after a white abolitionist former slave owner from Kentucky. No great imagination needed whence the family name. Thank goodness the slave holders weren't Smith or Jones. No imagination needed, either, as to why Ali chose a more appropriate name when he got around to it. I'm sure he appreciated the efforts of his namesake, but it's not hard to figure out why Ali might have forsaken the slave owner thing altogether.

WhoreMods -> RE: Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa (11/5/2017 5:14:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV I don't disagree with bringing Africa into the 21st century. Further, I believe it would be a debt the US owes to the continent. Why does the US owe Africa anything? Exactly. That's the point of being the most powerful nation in the world. You don't owe anybody anything, you just bomb the fuck out of them if they get in the way. I think the technical term for that philosophy is American exceptionalism. [:D]

JVoV -> RE: Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa (11/5/2017 6:14:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV But to equate a lack of electricity to rape is fucking ignorant, and blind to what happens even in our own country. um, he's not "equating" a lack of electricity to rape---he's saying, actually he's being in agreement with what an African woman said---that a lack of electricity contributes to sexual assault. that some rape here occurs in daylight, or in the presence of electricity is irrelevant. It is said that rape is about power, but I don't think that should be taken quite so literally. In order to help prevent rape, women in Africa need to be empowered, educated, and equal. And men need to not rape them.

WhoreMods -> RE: Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa (11/5/2017 6:40:27 AM)
To be honest, I was expecting a thread titled "Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa" to be about an attempted rapist getting necklaced or something...

JVoV -> RE: Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa (11/5/2017 6:46:57 AM)
Just throw some diesel in their face, and they won't rape you?

WhoreMods -> RE: Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa (11/5/2017 8:26:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV Just throw some diesel in their face, and they won't rape you? "Necklacing" is an extremely unpleasant form of public killing that was pretty common in south Africa (the region rather than the country) during the 80s and 90s, and seems to be making a comeback of late: the victim has a tyre full of petrol put round their neck after being tied up, kneecapped or otherwise immoblised, and then that's set on fire.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa (11/5/2017 9:44:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV I don't disagree with bringing Africa into the 21st century. Further, I believe it would be a debt the US owes to the continent. Why does the US owe Africa anything? Might it occur to you that JVoV is perhaps better read in history than you are? That said, it's hard for me to believe that any American educated person is completely oblivious to the institution of slavery as existed ~ 150 years ago. And, if digging the least bit in to it, the economic benefit to the few obtained thereby. Perhaps you need to read up on that, too. It was Africans who sold their fellow Africans into slavery. Regardless, how does that result in the US owing African anything?

DesideriScuri -> RE: Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa (11/5/2017 9:47:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri So while on the subject of American history . . . Did you know that Muhammad Ali was originally named as Cassius Marcellus Clay Jr.? It was just "Cassius Clay" at the time. Named after his father, of course, who himself was named after a white abolitionist former slave owner from Kentucky. No great imagination needed whence the family name. Thank goodness the slave holders weren't Smith or Jones. No imagination needed, either, as to why Ali chose a more appropriate name when he got around to it. I'm sure he appreciated the efforts of his namesake, but it's not hard to figure out why Ali might have forsaken the slave owner thing altogether. I admit I didn't know his middle name, or that he was a Jr. Other than that, I knew his pre-Islam conversion name. And, that still means nothing to how the US owes Africa anything.

bounty44 -> RE: Fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault in Africa (11/5/2017 2:27:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV But to equate a lack of electricity to rape is fucking ignorant, and blind to what happens even in our own country. um, he's not "equating" a lack of electricity to rape---he's saying, actually he's being in agreement with what an African woman said---that a lack of electricity contributes to sexual assault. that some rape here occurs in daylight, or in the presence of electricity is irrelevant. It is said that rape is about power, but I don't think that should be taken quite so literally. In order to help prevent rape, women in Africa need to be empowered, educated, and equal. And men need to not rape them. I don't disagree with you...and at the same time, i'll add that certain crimes, like sexual assault, will occur at least a little less if its less dark.

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