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We should also point out that it was unfair to Marco Rubio, as well as several others.

I could be wrong, but I don't think Marco Rubio was running for the Democratic nomination....

But it has exactly as much to do with it as Bernie, by example, do you think that if Little Marco ran for the Democratic nomination he would do well? Do you think that if Hillary would have run for the Republican nomination she would have done well? Do you remember when out front and with no qualms top RNC hacks were looking to deny Don the nomination? There was no butthurting or snowflaking by rightists then.
Big yawn, and little hands.

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Thank goodness somebody saved us from "Hillary 'Goldman Sachs' Clinton," God Bless America.

Hillary was also beholden to Wall Street. Of the two main candidates, both are slaves to it.

This, from the political genius who tried to tell us that anybody voting for Jill Stein actually wanted Trump for president. Too funny.

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As for Trump, "we" are alleged to have been voting for "change!" right?
Well, sure enough, I don't think any of those 6 Goldman Sachs guys had been appointed before.
"Change!"
OTOH, one could say that having our current "voice of authority" acting, and even more, sounding like a strung-out 14 yr. old boy is certainly 'change.'
Like pennies accidentally dropped to the pavement when paying for drive-through coffee. Spare change. Sparse neurons. Etc.

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You have your candidates mixed up. Hope and change was Obama. Trump is making America great again.

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On Friday, we wrote about former DNC chairwoman Donna Brazile's allegations about the party's rigging of the 2016 primary -- a charge Elizabeth Warren has embraced, incidentally. Additional revelations emerged over the weekend, as did a backlash from Democratic critics of Brazile, who say her claims are far-fetched and inaccurate. We'll get to the pushback, and her response, in a moment; first, here's another juicy grievance she's leveled against Team Clinton, going to the well of identity politics. The racial connotations here are not at all subtle:

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What happens when identity politics gets turned on you from within. Brazile accuses top Clinton operatives of being racist. pic.twitter.com/ngRZyKOxbR
— Josh Kraushaar (@HotlineJosh) November 4, 2017

Beyond the criticisms we covered last week, Brazile fired additional rhetorical shots at Democratic bigwigs. Again, she took a two-by-four to the triumvirate of Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Debbie Wasserman Schultz:

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Key point: Brazile writes DNC in disarray because of "titanic egos" of Obama, Hillary and Debbie Wasserman Schultz. https://t.co/QAaH5xZkNR
— Walter Shapiro (@MrWalterShapiro) November 4, 2017

Brazile writes that she inherited a national party in disarray, in part because President Obama, Clinton and Wasserman Schultz were “three titanic egos” who had “stripped the party to a shell for their own purposes.” Brazile writes that she inherited Wasserman Schultz’s office — with “tropical pink” walls that she found hard on the eyes — and “ridiculous” perks, such as a Chevrolet Tahoe with driver and a personal entourage that included an assistant known as a body woman. In her first few days on the job, Brazile writes that she also discovered the DNC was $2 million in debt and that the payroll was stacked with “hangers-on and sycophants.”

Clinton loyalists and other party figures aren't taking these broadsides lying down. Dozens of Hillary alumni signed a letter blasting back at Brazile, suggesting that she was a credulous consumer of -- wait for it -- Russian propaganda. But of course: "It is particularly troubling and puzzling that she would seemingly buy into false Russian-fueled propaganda, spread by both the Russians and our opponent, about our candidate's health," they wrote. That's a reference to the contention in Brazile's book that she actively contemplated replacing the Democratic presidential ticket just weeks prior to the general election, in the aftermath of Hillary's medical incident at a September 11 memorial event in New York City. She writes that she considered replacing Clinton/Kaine with a combination of Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Cory Booker. But as a number of observers have since pointed out, that's...not how any of this works:

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DNC chair can't unilaterally replace nominee. 1st - nominee must agree to step down. 2nd - whole DNC chooses sub https://t.co/ittHihYGIX
— Mark Murray (@mmurraypolitics) November 4, 2017

Many Democrats are also objecting that Brazile's characterization of the controversial joint fundraising agreement struck between the Clinton camp and the DNC. Bernie's campaign was also offered an opportunity to enter a similar pact, the counter-narrative goes, but they declined to do so. While it looks like Brazile may have embellished the nature and implications of the arrangement, the "Bernie could've done the same thing" spin isn't quite correct, either. The contract Hillary's team inked included a bonus 'memorandum of understanding' (which was kept secret from most of the party, including rival campaigns) that ceded a great deal of sway to Clinton headquarters in Brooklyn over DNC staffing and spending decisions -- prior to and during the primaries. Brazile explained as much on ABC's This Week, holding up two separate documents to illustrate her point. She also fought back against Democrats who've attacked her perspective and timing, using some colorful language in the process. She'd get knocked no matter when she stepped forward with this information, she said, expressing resentment at the notion that she's not entitled to tell her side of the story. Her message to those who want her to sit down and be quiet? "Go to hell:.."

Lots of interesting salvos in this discussion -- which was anchored by a former Clintonite political operative, it must be said -- including Brazile's stammering gibberish when pressed on her role in (and dishonesty about) feeding Team Hillary debate questions in advance was a sight to behold. Also interesting is Brazile's assertion that she found "no evidence...whatsoever" that the Democratic primary was "rigged." She assailed President Trump on Twitter for "trolling" and "misquoting" her on this score. One small problem...

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Did you bother to read your own book? pic.twitter.com/AvOWreAJbJ
— Brian O'Neill (@NYC__Native) November 3, 2017

No matter whose side you're inclined to take in this brouhaha, it's quite clear that some Democratic heavy hitters are no longer afraid to cross the Clintons in a big way -- or even to pile on Obama a bit. It also seems likely that Democrats' internecine warfare isn't going away anytime soon, even if some in the media would prefer to wish it out of existence. (If you think it's ugly now, just wait and see how things start to look if Ralph Northam manages to blow the gubernatorial race in Virginia tomorrow). Democratic Party honchos can point to internal "reforms" and tout "unity" task forces until they're blue in the face; a large segment of the left-wing base will remain incensed about the Clinton coronation and the sordid side deals that helped rig the system in her favor, regardless of how one wants to parse out or reframe what happened. I'll leave you with a case in point:

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Hillary camp & DNC saying we should move beyond their cheating are hilarious. Shocking they don't want us to focus on their corruption!
— Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur) November 4, 2017

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You have your candidates mixed up. Hope and change was Obama.

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Trump is making America great again.

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If you say so. I just don't recall hearing that word nearly as much then as with the Trump crowd.
I'm not talking about semi-official attachments, I was talking about buzz from the crowd.
So anyways: Sorry! servantforuse.
Good thing that wasn't a question in my American Government class, huh?
Not the best at political sloganeering history, here.

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...Here's the relevant excerpt from her book:

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I would get to the bottom of whether Hillary Clinton’s team had rigged the nomination process, as a cache of emails stolen by Russian hackers and posted online had suggested. I’d had my suspicions from the moment I walked in the door of the DNC a month or so earlier, based on the leaked emails. But who knew if some of them might have been forged? I needed to have solid proof, and so did Bernie. So I followed the money...By September 7...I had found my proof and it broke my heart...The [Clinton] campaign had the DNC on life support, giving it money every month to meet its basic expenses, while the campaign was using the party as a fund-raising clearing house. Under FEC law, an individual can contribute a maximum of $2,700 directly to a presidential campaign. But the limits are much higher for contributions to state parties and a party’s national committee.

Individuals who had maxed out their $2,700 contribution limit to the campaign could write an additional check for $353,400 to the Hillary Victory Fund—that figure represented $10,000 to each of the thirty-two states’ parties who were part of the Victory Fund agreement—$320,000—and $33,400 to the DNC. The money would be deposited in the states first, and transferred to the DNC shortly after that. Money in the battleground states usually stayed in that state, but all the other states funneled that money directly to the DNC, which quickly transferred the money to Brooklyn. “Wait,” I said. “That victory fund was supposed to be for whoever was the nominee, and the state party races. You’re telling me that Hillary has been controlling it since before she got the nomination?” Gary said the campaign had to do it or the party would collapse.

The news has shaken up the Democratic Party and forced liberals into damage-control mode, including over at CNN, where according to Fox News’s Tucker Carlson, executives have told employees to discredit the former acting DNC chair in order to protect Clinton.

“According to highly informed sources we spoke to–highly informed–top management at CNN directed its employees to undermine Brazile’s credibility,” Tucker reported Monday. “Anchors and producers were vocally offended by Brazile’s attacks on their friends, the Clintons. If you’ve been watching that channel, you may have noticed CNN’s anchors suggesting that Donna Brazile cannot be trusted, precisely because she took part in efforts to break the primaries for Clinton.”

Those efforts included Brazile sharing a primary debate question with Clinton, which CNN hosts are using to discredit her.

After playing clips of the hosts attempting to make her look bad, Carson said laughing, “it’s unbelievable, in retrospect, they’re so obvious talking points.” And it’s not just CNN, he reported.

[and if any of you comrades can tune into fox news without your heads exploding, you might like this]

Brazile will appear on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” Wednesday to share her side of the story.

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Obviously, Donna Brazile is pretty unpopular with the Dems right now

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Just to be clear, many of us howlers didn’t support Clinton, ever.

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Just to be clear, many of us howlers didn’t support Clinton, ever.

Yeah... Uh huh... We could tell that by your hysterical months-long reaction, after your pussyhat queen lost

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Just to be clear, many of us howlers didn’t support Clinton, ever.