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RE: What is included in the definition of Objectification? - 7/29/2006 5:55:34 PM   
SusanofO


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RE: What is included in the definition of Objectification? - 7/29/2006 5:57:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

Thanks very much for replying, Yang4yin.

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Aw, shucks... twernt nuthin!

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RE: What is included in the definition of Objectification? - 7/29/2006 6:02:09 PM   
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RE: What is included in the definition of Objectification? - 7/29/2006 6:10:42 PM   
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Yang, I think that the person being objectified would still have emotions just not "show" those emotions.
My former sub had a nice ass and I liked to look at it so i'd have her get on the rug wearing a thong in front of the tv with her ass up in the air.
She liked doing it and I liked looking at it so it worked out.
She was also an exibitionist and after her unmentionable went to school she'd often walk out in the back yard in only a thong looking at the flowers.

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RE: What is included in the definition of Objectification? - 7/30/2006 1:30:43 AM   
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I should probably know this by now, as I seem to read a lot about bdsm topics, but am getting confused about the meaning(s) of this word as it pertains to bdsm activity. Does Objectification include things like pony play and being willing to be treated like, say, a piece of furniture?


It means what you mean it to, until you decide to let someone else decide it for you.

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RE: What is included in the definition of Objectification? - 7/30/2006 11:03:40 AM   
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... Yang, I think that the person being objectified would still have emotions just not "show" those emotions...



True, but the one who is objectifying the other usually acts as if he/she has no feelings about the one being objectified.

*places a cold can onto the "table" and turns on the TV*

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RE: What is included in the definition of Objectification? - 7/30/2006 12:25:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		greetings SusanofO
 
In my view...Objectification is used as a part of slave training and as a punishment.   Being Gorean the method is used in several ways.  One is third person speech.  The slave can not say their name or use "I", "me" or any other word that referrs to themselves, rather, "girl", "beast" or "slut" etc can be used if a slave has to referr to themselves.  Positions are also used, one being "table" a slave is on her hands and knees and is use as if they were a table.  Another position is "she-sleen" again the slave is on her hands and knees..she is for all purpose an animal and may only make animal sounds, any tasks she does will have to done as an animal would do...and may be "taken sexual" like an animal in this position.
 
It is designed to be a humiliating experience, that is so the slave learns their place and understand the concept of the total power exchange.
 
I wish you well
 
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RE: What is included in the definition of Objectification? - 7/30/2006 1:14:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yang, true, like in Pony Training you'd be treating that person as a Pony but in doing so you'd also be giving them pleasure through the humiliation factor like Nosathro just said.
I just find it a facinating dynamic.
After going through various Pony Girl Training sites in the past few days I'm DEFINATELY  very interested in that type of play and am going to get involved in it in the near future! I've already subscribed to that magazine "Equus Eroticus" as well and I'm thinking of driving up to Minnesotta for that Pony Girl Training weekend in Sept. 15-17th.
Another thing I used to do with my former sub to objectify her was to have her get dressed in lingerie and a nice tight thong and high heels and I'd tie her over the kitchen table with her ass facing me as I sat on the couch watching t.v. so I could look at her ass and legs and she'd be facing the other way and couldn't see if I was looking or when I was looking or for how long. I'd usually leave her there like that for an hour or so and it got her very hot without me even touching her!
She told me that she "Loved doing that" because it made her so hot not knowing when I'd be looking at her.

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RE: What is included in the definition of Objectification? - 7/30/2006 1:41:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh! I forgot, one day when we were doing that I saw the UPS truck pull into the driveway.
I started smiling and waited for the doorbell to ring!
"DING DONG!"
She went crazy!!! She was struggling like mad and "MMMMFFFFFing" through her gag! lolol
I just got up and went into the foyer and answered the door and signed for the package and came back into the living room.
She was pissed! "MFFFFFFMMMMFFFFTTTT!"
I should have invited the UPS guy in for a cup of coffee!
She was *REALLY* hot after that!

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RE: What is included in the definition of Objectification? - 7/30/2006 1:53:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		SusanofO,
            I have read your question, The answers given to you are most interesting. Except for a couple of  doms ( I guess thats what they may claim to be) Everyone was right on the money...Objectification came from yesteryear, The time of my parents, Not during my time,  Things people,  places all change in time. My Mother was chosen by my Father  in a group of other female slaves, She was to be used for what ever purpose he desired , slaves,  In my parents day, Had no choices, Made no decisions and had no rights or priviledges whats so ever, I am speaking of maybe 1930 to 1950. True some even forced slaves into relationships after 1950, But,  For the most part, That type of slavery was dieing out.. Today it is called I believe the M's relationship (Master/slave), most today add the "D's" to the relationship, Even if they do not admit it, Love, Caring, Cherishing, Etc.  This is the major difference of the "True old school slave" of yesteryear and the slave of today. Like I said Time, People, Places and Things change with time...Sometimes for the good, Sometimes not.....

                                                                                      MasterLon

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RE: What is included in the definition of Objectification? - 7/30/2006 3:00:00 PM   
popeye1250


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Status: offline 		I went into my profile and added "Pony Training" to my interests and I noticed that they had a bunch of *other* categories in there which I wasn't aware of before!

Damn, that really filled up my profile page adding all that other stuff!
I didn't see all that stuff at the top of the page under "Interests" when I joined.
I wonder what else about this site I might have missed?

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RE: What is included in the definition of Objectification? - 7/30/2006 10:22:18 PM   
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