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BoscoX -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/10/2017 6:36:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: MasterDrakk no the thread is about un-American corporations and individuals who are on the backs of American citizens via welfare who are getting paid and a free ride in this country. Quit your demented howling. At least you know how an "exorbitant" tax rate is defined now: apparently it means paying any tax at all. Of course welfare cheat daddies think it's "patriotic" for people who actually earn money to give almost half of their income to fat sassy bureaucrats What else is in the news [image]https://media.giphy.com/media/nZZGtA2C10OXu/giphy.gif[/image] quote: In 2014 the United States had the third highest general top marginal corporate income tax rate in the world at 39.1 percent (consisting of the 35% federal rate plus a combined state rate), exceeded only by Chad.

WhoreMods -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/10/2017 6:42:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: MasterDrakk no the thread is about un-American corporations and individuals who are on the backs of American citizens via welfare who are getting paid and a free ride in this country. Quit your demented howling. At least you know how an "exorbitant" tax rate is defined now: apparently it means paying any tax at all. Of course welfare cheat daddies think it's "patriotic" for people who actually earn money to give almost half of their income to fat sassy bureaucrats What else is in the news [image]https://media.giphy.com/media/nZZGtA2C10OXu/giphy.gif[/image] When they go Galt and stop using publicly funded services, then they can whine about paying taxes. Until such time as that happens, they look like freeloading pondlife who've fattened themselves from a system they refuse to contribute to themselves.

BoscoX -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/10/2017 6:50:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods When they go Galt and stop using publicly funded services, then they can whine about paying taxes. Until such time as that happens, they look like freeloading pondlife who've fattened themselves from a system they refuse to contribute to themselves. Earth to moron Again - they use nothing when they leave the states completely due to our tax rates, which are second highest in the world Which many of them do You want them to invest here? Lower the tax rate. Leftist trash would literally criminalize those who know how to generate wealth if they could Slaughter every goose

MasterDrakk -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/10/2017 7:52:21 AM)
Not even a close second. Talk reality and talk actual rate. Enough with the pretense that you demented howlers can do any maths.

WhoreMods -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/10/2017 8:37:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods When they go Galt and stop using publicly funded services, then they can whine about paying taxes. Until such time as that happens, they look like freeloading pondlife who've fattened themselves from a system they refuse to contribute to themselves. Earth to moron Again - they use nothing when they leave the states completely due to our tax rates, which are second highest in the world Which many of them do You want them to invest here? Lower the tax rate. Leftist trash would literally criminalize those who know how to generate wealth if they could Slaughter every goose I'm not talking about investing, you moron: somebody else pays for the roads and other civic infrastructure they use if they're hiding their income from the IRS.

Politesub53 -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/11/2017 12:36:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods And this sort of thing is why arguments about trickle down theory are so absurd: the plutocracy's money doesn't trickle down, it's removed from the economy and most of the time from the country as well. Removed because of exorbitant taxes (theft by government) Then the howlers scream, why do you hide it away God you`re such a fucking idiot. If you think there can be Capitalism without Taxation you really are delusional. Whoremods is right, the money is syphoned off by the greedy. Right back at you howler I didn't write that there can be capitalism without taxation, that only happened in your almost cartoonish fantasy world (curiously, such delusions as that are very typical among drooling leftist trash such as yourself) Lmfao. You dont even know if you are capitalist or communist. If you are a capitalist, you cant believe tax is government theft. Just for shits and giggles, how would your armed forces or infrastructure get paid for with no tax ? You keep posting shit and I`ll keep pointing it out as and when I can be arsed.

MrRodgers -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/11/2017 4:57:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods And this sort of thing is why arguments about trickle down theory are so absurd: the plutocracy's money doesn't trickle down, it's removed from the economy and most of the time from the country as well. Removed because of exorbitant taxes (theft by government) Then the howlers scream, why do you hide it away There were almost no profits comparatively kept offshore when taxes were higher. Corporate taxes are at a 60 year low and are now slated to go even lower. Corp. taxes are hardly exorbitant when paid as the US effective rate is already under 20%. (stock dividends I think are already 20% just up after many years at 15%, more immorality) With all of their advantages in reducing any taxes, corp. taxes provides only 10% of all federal tax revenues. That is flat out immoral, just as the corporation conducts business anytime they choose. Lowering corporate taxes as history also demonstrates, raises profits. increases the stock price, increasing the value of management's stock options and also used for stock buy-backs. A law change that Reagan got through that made what was illegal manipulation of the stock...all legal again. Why am I not surprised...the rent-seeking right at work again ? One huge co. but as a prime example: IBM enjoyed a record qtrly. profit (IIRC 2015) of $3.3 billion. At that announcement the co. also announced that it would lay off 8000 workers and spend $9 billion on a stock buy-back. So again, just how is reducing corp. taxes supposed to help the America economy create jobs ? Never has and never will. Seems all of the howling is to simply enjoy higher profits and purely...out of greed. The so-called Paradise Papers are just another written record of what we already knew. Greed rules the day, has for decades and will forevermore.

MercTech -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/11/2017 8:26:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods And this sort of thing is why arguments about trickle down theory are so absurd: the plutocracy's money doesn't trickle down, it's removed from the economy and most of the time from the country as well. Removed because of exorbitant taxes (theft by government) Then the howlers scream, why do you hide it away The last time there was an "exorbitant" tax on the top income bracket Eisenhower was still president. And over 50% tax in the middle income brackets isn't exorbitant? Don't just look at income tax but ALL the taxes paid. Then compare the percentage paid in taxes with the lower tax rate back when the government actually took care of the infrastructure instead of pork barrel crap with no funding to maintain it. The bandits are way too greedy and it is past time to toss them all out.

WhoreMods -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/12/2017 8:04:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MercTech quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods And this sort of thing is why arguments about trickle down theory are so absurd: the plutocracy's money doesn't trickle down, it's removed from the economy and most of the time from the country as well. Removed because of exorbitant taxes (theft by government) Then the howlers scream, why do you hide it away The last time there was an "exorbitant" tax on the top income bracket Eisenhower was still president. And over 50% tax in the middle income brackets isn't exorbitant? Don't just look at income tax but ALL the taxes paid. Then compare the percentage paid in taxes with the lower tax rate back when the government actually took care of the infrastructure instead of pork barrel crap with no funding to maintain it. The bandits are way too greedy and it is past time to toss them all out. I was ridiculing the notion that the top tax bracket was exorbitant, not that the middle classes are now paying more tax to allow the "wealth creators" to have massive cuts on the taxes most of them aren't paying anyway.

BoscoX -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/12/2017 8:14:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods I was ridiculing the notion that the top tax bracket was exorbitant, not that the middle classes are now paying more tax to allow the "wealth creators" to have massive cuts on the taxes most of them aren't paying anyway. You are ridiculing the delusions that are playing out in your empty head Even the worst leftist propaganda rag on the planet admits that the current Republican plan is designed to drive wealth creators to foreign shores in order to buy middle class votes with taxpayer dollars: Republicans to propose keeping top tax rate for very wealthy

WhoreMods -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/12/2017 8:25:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods I was ridiculing the notion that the top tax bracket was exorbitant, not that the middle classes are now paying more tax to allow the "wealth creators" to have massive cuts on the taxes most of them aren't paying anyway. You are ridiculing the delusions that are playing out in your empty head Even the worst leftist propaganda rag on the planet admits that the current Republican plan is designed to drive wealth creators to foreign shores in order to buy middle class votes with taxpayer dollars: Republicans to propose keeping top tax rate for very wealthy If they're not paying tax, how will them leaving the country have any impact on the economy?

Lucylastic -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/12/2017 8:38:15 AM)
bezos is fake news surely

WhoreMods -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/12/2017 8:41:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic bezos is fake news surely Apparently not in this case: that'll be the absolute lack of any double standards on the part of RWNJs at work again.

BoscoX -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/12/2017 8:59:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods I was ridiculing the notion that the top tax bracket was exorbitant, not that the middle classes are now paying more tax to allow the "wealth creators" to have massive cuts on the taxes most of them aren't paying anyway. You are ridiculing the delusions that are playing out in your empty head Even the worst leftist propaganda rag on the planet admits that the current Republican plan is designed to drive wealth creators to foreign shores in order to buy middle class votes with taxpayer dollars: Republicans to propose keeping top tax rate for very wealthy If they're not paying tax, how will them leaving the country have any impact on the economy? Your delusions are getting worse by the second. The rich do not pay the most taxes, they pay ALL the taxes

WhoreMods -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/12/2017 9:06:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods I was ridiculing the notion that the top tax bracket was exorbitant, not that the middle classes are now paying more tax to allow the "wealth creators" to have massive cuts on the taxes most of them aren't paying anyway. You are ridiculing the delusions that are playing out in your empty head Even the worst leftist propaganda rag on the planet admits that the current Republican plan is designed to drive wealth creators to foreign shores in order to buy middle class votes with taxpayer dollars: Republicans to propose keeping top tax rate for very wealthy If they're not paying tax, how will them leaving the country have any impact on the economy? Your delusions are getting worse by the second. The rich do not pay the most taxes, they pay ALL the taxes Tell that to el presidente and your mate Bezos.

BoscoX -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/12/2017 9:12:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods Tell that to el presidente and your mate Bezos. ...and in your cartoonish delusions, that's a seriously witty retort. [image]https://m.popkey.co/aa9afb/v0065_s-200x150.gif[/image]

WhoreMods -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/12/2017 9:19:14 AM)
When did either of them last pay any tax on their income?

BoscoX -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/12/2017 9:28:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods When did either of them last pay any tax on their income? Who to trust - some delusional nobody howler on the Internet... Or CNBC. The rich do not pay the most taxes, they pay ALL the taxes Such a tough decision...

MrRodgers -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/12/2017 8:40:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods When did either of them last pay any tax on their income? Who to trust - some delusional nobody howler on the Internet... Or CNBC. The rich do not pay the most taxes, they pay ALL the taxes Such a tough decision... First of all, I don't believe this for a minute. First, let's look at incomes. The report shows the lowest-paid Americans earned on average $8,100 in 2010 but received nearly $25,000 in government aid. You begin to see how "transfers" create a negative tax burden. I've known a few poor people and poor enough for rental, child and food stamp assistance. Not a single one I ever met ever came close to anywhere nears $25,000 in federal benefits. Plus, the numbers were from 2010 about the depth of the recession, so all of the numbers are skewed as compared to a relative growth period. 2008-2010, many maybe millions of Americans also cashed in billion$ in capital gains and while enjoying a 15% rate, still ended up increasing the normal revenue from CG resulting in a short term tax windfall for the feds.

Edwird -> RE: Paradise Papers...a primer. (11/12/2017 11:07:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods And this sort of thing is why arguments about trickle down theory are so absurd: the plutocracy's money doesn't trickle down, it's removed from the economy and most of the time from the country as well. So, yeah, I never understood the concept of pushing lowest wages even further lower was "trickle down," to begin with. (not that that was mentioned as to method of providing for the upper echelon to begin with.) But the so-called "liberal media" ate it up at the time in huge dollops, and coming back for seconds and thirds. Reagan didn't need a wife to suck his dick, the media were waiting in line all year long, every day, every week, every year.

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