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This just in: Water is wet.

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This just in: Water is wet.

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These analyses show that some differences exist, and describe the relative size of those differences, in the periods in which the differences were observed. However, the fact that certain sentencing outcomes may be correlated with demographic factors does not mean that the demographic factors caused the outcome.60 Therefore, the demographic differences in sentencing outcomes revealed by these analyses should not be interpreted as a finding that demographic factors caused those differences. Neither can the analyses presented in this report be used to explain why the observed differences in sentencing outcomes exist.

Although multivariate regression analysis is common in social science research, and steps were taken to ensure its appropriateness for these analyses, this type of analysis has limitations. One or more key factors that could affect the analysis may have been omitted from the methodologies used because a particular factor is unknown, or because data concerning the factor is not readily available in the Commission’s datasets. Such factors may include whether the offender committed crimes not reflected in an offender’s criminal history score, and the offender’s employment record. Accordingly, the results presented in this report should be interpreted with caution and should not be taken to suggest race or gender discrimination on the part of judges.

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These analyses show that some differences exist, and describe the relative size of those differences, in the periods in which the differences were observed. However, the fact that certain sentencing outcomes may be correlated with demographic factors does not mean that the demographic factors caused the outcome.60 Therefore, the demographic differences in sentencing outcomes revealed by these analyses should not be interpreted as a finding that demographic factors caused those differences. Neither can the analyses presented in this report be used to explain why the observed differences in sentencing outcomes exist.

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These analyses show that some differences exist, and describe the relative size of those differences, in the periods in which the differences were observed. However, the fact that certain sentencing outcomes may be correlated with demographic factors does not mean that the demographic factors caused the outcome.60 Therefore, the demographic differences in sentencing outcomes revealed by these analyses should not be interpreted as a finding that demographic factors caused those differences. Neither can the analyses presented in this report be used to explain why the observed differences in sentencing outcomes exist.

I really can't ever recall reading such twaddle and trash in defense of a social argument as the above, going around in empty circles and signifying absolutely nothing. If you are going to make a defense, old bean, do not insult is with such clap as "the demographic outcomes don't mean what they seem to mean." Jesus Christ on a bicycle, have we never before gone around in such meaningless trash as that? If the demographic out comes don't seem to mean what they seem to mean then what the fuck do they mean? Just because there is a correlation does not mean that the correlation has any significance. . . . . and we are left with that bullshit piece of reasoning, as if all of the great scholars on these boards concur with such testicle twisting logic.

And let us give a special award for those who pretend to agree that justice in these United States has been mangled in favor of white male privilege all along, shrug their shoulders, and hint that there is really nothing to be done about it. Oh well, what the hell. Come crying along then the next time some young black man loses the flower of his life to the odious piss smell of the iron-walled slammer. We will just as easily shrug our shoulders. What can we do about the twists of injustice in the white man's world? So yeah, the earth is round and water is wet so what are we suppose to do about it? Not much but follow the realtor's lines and accept the trash that the school system assigns because who knows better than the realtor and the school administrator what's best for the children? Whyn't you just lay down in front of the bull dozier and pretend that Martin solved that problem with his life at the Lorraine Motel back in '68?

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These analyses show that some differences exist, and describe the relative size of those differences, in the periods in which the differences were observed. However, the fact that certain sentencing outcomes may be correlated with demographic factors does not mean that the demographic factors caused the outcome.60 Therefore, the demographic differences in sentencing outcomes revealed by these analyses should not be interpreted as a finding that demographic factors caused those differences. Neither can the analyses presented in this report be used to explain why the observed differences in sentencing outcomes exist.

I really can't ever recall reading such twaddle and trash in defense of a social argument as the above, going around in empty circles and signifying absolutely nothing.

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I was thinking the exact same thing when I was wondering about other un-measurable variables, like court room behavior.

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These analyses show that some differences exist, and describe the relative size of those differences, in the periods in which the differences were observed. However, the fact that certain sentencing outcomes may be correlated with demographic factors does not mean that the demographic factors caused the outcome.60 Therefore, the demographic differences in sentencing outcomes revealed by these analyses should not be interpreted as a finding that demographic factors caused those differences. Neither can the analyses presented in this report be used to explain why the observed differences in sentencing outcomes exist.

I really can't ever recall reading such twaddle and trash in defense of a social argument as the above, going around in empty circles and signifying absolutely nothing.

You know why you can't recall reading it? It's because you didn't read the report the HuffPo article was based on. The article linked an updated to the 2012 Booker Report. That's what the article was based on. Now, had you read the update, you'd would have read "such twaddle and trash in defense of a social argument." You're complaint, is with the USSC. Best of luck trying to win that one.

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Looking at 2016, the only year for which such data was available, the commission found that, after controlling for criminal history, black men still received 20.4 percent longer sentences than did white men.

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America may be...may be, one of the least racist countries in the world

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These analyses show that some differences exist, and describe the relative size of those differences, in the periods in which the differences were observed. However, the fact that certain sentencing outcomes may be correlated with demographic factors does not mean that the demographic factors caused the outcome.60 Therefore, the demographic differences in sentencing outcomes revealed by these analyses should not be interpreted as a finding that demographic factors caused those differences. Neither can the analyses presented in this report be used to explain why the observed differences in sentencing outcomes exist.

I really can't ever recall reading such twaddle and trash in defense of a social argument as the above, going around in empty circles and signifying absolutely nothing.

You know why you can't recall reading it? It's because you didn't read the report the HuffPo article was based on. The article linked an updated to the 2012 Booker Report. That's what the article was based on. Now, had you read the update, you'd would have read "such twaddle and trash in defense of a social argument." You're complaint, is with the USSC. Best of luck trying to win that one.

So we all could read it. So what ?

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