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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/27/2017 2:16:38 PM   
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yet another mnottertroll word...

and also more broad evidence in that he doesn't know what he's talking about.



I think it's a "confirmed kill" that this new name is, indeed "mnutterfail", circumventing moderation.

I report every other post to the moderators in the hope that someday, we might get some even-handed moderation going on, here.

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each time a relatively unique word appears, it more and more confirms it for me.

I reported him when he first appeared as trying to evade moderation, but those tickets haven't even been read, and its been 2-3 weeks.

im really impressed with his ability to curb the nutsucker/felchgobble/putinjizz/pedophile and all the other lovely words he used to so enjoy spewing.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/27/2017 3:13:57 PM   
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still music to my ears---now if only that were the case with your alter-ego drakk, whether its you, or someone making an effort to sound like you.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/27/2017 4:08:22 PM   
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Again: If only 2.4 per 100, 000 people in mainly-Muslim countries are on average murderers, whereas the figure is 5 per 100, 000 in the USA - how does it make sense to talk of the bulk of them being Jihadis or supporters of those jihadis? The terms you're using - 'jihadis' and 'extremists' are designed to evoke an image of a brooding monster, ready to wake up and attack at any point. The reality is that more than twice as many Americans are actual murderers than the average of people in mostly-Muslim countries. I get that your view of Islam is such that Muslims *should* be more murderous but the fact is ... they aren't. They're less murderous. For me, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.



You are pretending that ordinary murder in predominantly Muslim nations is the issue with Muslims


No I'm not, and furthermore, I don't even know what you mean, Bosco. Could you structure your sentences so that they're more comprehensible?

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The issue is not ordinary murder in predominantly Muslim nations. The issue is mass slaughter of infidels and apostates etc in Allah's name, as the Koran demands of faithful practicing Muslims


No, it isn't. The issue really *is* ordinary murder. The issue is whether or not and how much I'm likely to get murdered, and everything else can fuck off. I don't give an oscillating rat's anus about the reasons *why* I'm likely to get murdered. In mainly Muslim countries, the likelihood of my getting murdered is less than half of what it is in the USA. The issue of whether I'm being killed by a fat, thick, rednecked American lunatic right wing cretin with a gun, or sliced by a turbanned Islamist fruitcake with some weird-shaped knife, isn't of great interest to me one way or another. i just don't want to get dead, that's all.

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The issue is those cult practices which have led to the deaths of hundreds of millions of innocent people worldwide (and counting). Most hot wars in the world today involve Muslims. Most by far. That is the issue.


Look, you, as an American, are not in a position to talk about 'cult practices' in the context of killing. Unlike all of the other First World countries on the planet, you have the death sentence, and you glorify guns. In those respects, you Americans are fucking primitive and the rest of the advanced industrialised world despises you for it. I'm sorry, but there it is. It's about time you grew the fuck up.



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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/27/2017 4:24:17 PM   
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The issue is whether or not and how much I'm likely to get murdered, and everything else can fuck off. I don't give an oscillating rat's anus about the reasons *why* I'm likely to get murdered.

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Unlike all of the other First World countries on the planet, you have the death sentence, and you glorify guns. In those respects, you Americans are fucking primitive


Make up your idiot troll howler mind

You don't care why Muslims slaughter how many or who they mass slaughter where, or what they do to women, or that you are far more likely to be killed by Muslims for being a non-Muslim than you are likely to be killed for being a non-American....

Yet you are clearly obsessed with Americans' right to self defense which has nothing to do with you, and has not caused the tiniest fraction of deaths to innocent people that the Islamic cult has

Due to her right to bear arms, a tiny elderly American woman has the ability to be fully equal to any male attacker, regardless of his size or athleticism - and that drives you insane just thinking about it

That concerns you

But you couldn't care less about Muslims mass slaughtering non-Muslims, hundreds of millions of lives wasted and counting

You really are a mindless little howler


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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/27/2017 4:36:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		when you consider that a large reason for the homicide rate being what it is in America is due to inner city blacks, that's gotta drive the left nuts too.

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Unlike all of the other First World countries on the planet, you have the death sentence, and you glorify guns. In those respects, you Americans are fucking primitive

smug pompous ass. is it possible for those of you on the left to be anything else??

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/27/2017 4:41:40 PM   
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The issue is whether or not and how much I'm likely to get murdered, and everything else can fuck off. I don't give an oscillating rat's anus about the reasons *why* I'm likely to get murdered.

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Unlike all of the other First World countries on the planet, you have the death sentence, and you glorify guns. In those respects, you Americans are fucking primitive


Make up your idiot troll howler mind

You don't care why Muslims slaughter how many or who they mass slaughter where, or what they do to women, or that you are far more likely to be killed by Muslims for being a non-Muslim than you are likely to be killed for being a non-American....

Yet you are clearly obsessed with Americans' right to self defense which has nothing to do with you, and has not caused the tiniest fraction of deaths to innocent people that the Islamic cult has

Due to her right to bear arms, a tiny elderly American woman has the ability to be fully equal to any male attacker, regardless of his size or athleticism - and that drives you insane just thinking about it

That concerns you

But you couldn't care less about Muslims mass slaughtering non-Muslims, hundreds of millions of lives wasted and counting

You really are a mindless little howler



May I take this opportunity to observe that you are a cretin, Bosco?


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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/27/2017 4:47:44 PM   
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when you consider that a large reason for the homicide rate being what it is in America is due to inner city blacks, that's gotta drive the left nuts too.

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Unlike all of the other First World countries on the planet, you have the death sentence, and you glorify guns. In those respects, you Americans are fucking primitive

smug pompous ass. is it possible for those of you on the left to be anything else??



Well, what can I say? You have me, bounty, and no mistake. I *am* smug and pompous about the fact that here in Britain, and indeed everywhere in the First World outside of the USA, we've arranged it such that there isn't a mass-murder going on on a monthly basis. It isn't just 'us on the left', though, it's all of us - on the right, too, and everywhere else in the middle. It's all of us non-Americans. You Americans like killing each other more than the rest of us do. Straightforward cultural difference. Just to straighten you out there.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/27/2017 4:53:08 PM   
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when you consider that a large reason for the homicide rate being what it is in America is due to inner city blacks, that's gotta drive the left nuts too.

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Unlike all of the other First World countries on the planet, you have the death sentence, and you glorify guns. In those respects, you Americans are fucking primitive

smug pompous ass. is it possible for those of you on the left to be anything else??


Piss boy is pure unadulterated fool. He smugly embraces Muslims whose teachings condemn him to death, tirelessly propagandizes on their behalf as if he is the smartest worm that has ever infested a turd... While slandering the country that saved his country time after time, calling us what Muslims are with their death cult practices out of pure regressive ignorance on his part

It's a wonder what modern brain-washing can do to a mind, is it not

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/27/2017 4:56:56 PM   
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Well, what can I say? You have me, bounty, and no mistake. I *am* smug and pompous about the fact that here in Britain, and indeed everywhere in the First World outside of the USA, we've arranged it such that there isn't a mass-murder going on on a monthly basis. It isn't just 'us on the left', though, it's all of us - on the right, too, and everywhere else in the middle. It's all of us non-Americans. You Americans like killing each other more than the rest of us do. Straightforward cultural difference. Just to straighten you out there.


Face facts little piss boy

You cannot defend your views on Islam, so like the good little brainwashed leftist you are, you work to deflect from the topic at hand by employing various fallacies

Leftist trash such as yourself could not honestly debate any given topic if your miserable little troll lives depended on it

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/27/2017 5:01:39 PM   
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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/27/2017 5:03:26 PM   
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and you promulgate the teachings of your child molester masters.


Funny.

Someone just recently commented above about you were amazingly able to refrain from that particulr mnottertroll ad hominem

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/27/2017 5:04:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		um no, there are tons of places around the world where people kill each other more than americans do.

whats more, its been shown here, over and over, that guns actually serve to protect life. if you claim to value it so much, perhaps you could take that into consideration.

its also been pointed out, that people kill others with things other than guns.

so given those two points, youd think you could lay off a little bit.

lastly, and most importantly, people can be incredibly well reasoned, educated, and compassionate, and simply believe differently than you, and value different things, without being "primitive."

the left are not the arbiters of enlightenment.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/27/2017 5:08:01 PM   
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and you promulgate the teachings of your child molester masters.


Funny.

Someone just recently commented above about you were amazingly able to refrain from that particulr mnottertroll ad hominem


true colors...I figured it would just be a matter of time though before he broke. malevolence, not to mention nonsensical stupidity, reigns in his spirit.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/27/2017 5:11:47 PM   
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um no, there are tons of places around the world where people kill each other more than americans do.


And there are tons of places where people kill each other less than Americans do - and, recalling the context of this thread, a lot of those places are mainly-Muslim countries. When you smug, self-satisfied American ultra-righties can accept that, with all its implications, I might stop burning your sorry arses about your present deplorable murder rate. OK?

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/27/2017 8:08:17 PM   
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In spite of the angry little troll - the topic:

Next time some howler screams that they do it because of big oil or because of George Bush or because they need jobs - tell them that they are full of shit.

They do it because their book demands it:

Egypt mosque attack leaves at least 305 dead in Sinai Peninsula

CAIRO — At least 305 people were killed when gunmen opened fire and bombed a mosque in Egypt's volatile Sinai Peninsula on Friday. Government officials said 128 more had been injured in the attack — among the deadliest in Egypt's history.

The rising death toll included 27 children, officials said.

Images from inside the building showed dozens of bodies wrapped in blood-soaked cloth lined up on the carpeted floor.

Police sources told The Associated Press that men in four off-road vehicles opened fire on worshippers in the al-Rawdah mosque in the town of Al Rawdah. NBC News could not immediately independently verify that account.

Two eyewitnesses and a security source told Reuters that the suspected militants targeted supporters of the security forces attending prayers. Citing official sources, the state-run MENA news agency reported that the mosque is largely attended by Sufi Muslims — a form of Islam considered heretical by some conservatives and extremists like the Islamic State group.

More at: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/egypt-mosque-attack-leaves-dozens-dead-wounded-n823746

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/28/2017 6:53:59 AM   
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You always insist that their book tells them to attack everybody else rather than other moslems, though.
Not for the first time, I'm forced to correct your ignorance.

Their book tells them to kill people who don't believe as they do. However the central disagreement between Shiites and Sunni Muslims - over which they've been killing each other for more than a thousand years - is which set of accompanying apocrypha is the real one.

So. To correct yet another idiot who clearly has no fucking idea what he's talking about - the Quran tells Muslims to kill unbelievers. The hadith tell Muslims to kill Jews and enjoy it. Islamic culture says that the hadith are worth killing over. Thus, Muslims kill each other over the hadith and they engage in violent imperialism because that's the central message of Islam.

This is why people like yourself and Peon are ignorant fucking morons. Your ignorance is total, inexcusable and disqualifies you from attempting to blather on about a subject which you truly do not understand in the slightest.


A, please. How many times have I warned you about actually learning something on a subject before posting on it?
No prizes for seconds Peon. I've already pointed out your manifest ignorance - trying to play teacher now just makes you look stupid. As does pretty much everything you write.

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You either cannot, or will not, see that your view is based in religious determinism. Thus, for you and your fellow looneybin-righties, everything about what all Muslims are, and do, can be determined by what's in their religious texts.
Wrong. Islam is a culture in the grip of religious fundamentalism which sanctions murder of those who attempt to leave. It is the biggest cult in existence and you want to pretend that Islamic fundamentalism does NOT have an iron grip on Islamic society? Christ, you mock yourself with your pathetic ignorance.

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Do you really have no inkling as to why that might just the teensiest bit fallacious?
Oh Peon - you accusing someone else of fallacious argument is really the pot calling the kettle black. Just for once, try constructing an argument which doesn't fall apart under the slightest examination.

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"Predominantly, Muslim countries average 2.4 murders per annum per 100,000 people, compared to 7.5 in non-Muslim countries. The percentage of the society that is made up of Muslims is an extraordinarily good predictor of a country's murder rate. More authoritarianism in Muslim countries does not account for the difference. I have found that controlling for political regime in statistical analysis does not change the findings. More Muslims, less homicide."
Really? This is your counter-argument? Should I mention that Sharia's notion of what constitutes murder is radically different to that of Western societies? That honor killings are legitimised murder? That Islamic societies' entire concept of law and order is centered around religious doctrine rather than secular legislation?

This is pathetic, Peon. With every response, you provide further details of your ignorance.

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https://www.vox.com/2015/1/30/7951309/islam-violence
You're attempting to use a left-wing rag notable for its inability to tell the truth as your source? Are you mad?

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/28/2017 6:55:37 AM   
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I corrected that myth in another thread. why is it still being trotted out? that's pure academic dissembling.
You'll have to forgive Peon, it's what he was taught to do. Unfortunately, he really doesn't understand how to do anything else.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/28/2017 7:02:37 AM   
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Will the real Muslim murder rate please stand up

Over 670 million non-Muslims massacred since the birth of Islam

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/28/2017 7:23:31 AM   
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No, it isn't. The issue really *is* ordinary murder. The issue is whether or not and how much I'm likely to get murdered, and everything else can fuck off.
No, the issue is that you've been fed a talking point by a leftist organ which your primitive brain *thinks* is an argument and - like all of your gnostic knowledge about feminism - you're incapable of doing anything other than repeating it ad infinitum. You lack the capacity to think about the argument you're trying to make and thus even respond to its weaknesses, let alone attempt to defend them.

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Look, you, as an American, are not in a position to talk about 'cult practices' in the context of killing. Unlike all of the other First World countries on the planet, you have the death sentence, and you glorify guns. In those respects, you Americans are fucking primitive and the rest of the advanced industrialised world despises you for it. I'm sorry, but there it is. It's about time you grew the fuck up.


The trouble with this thesis Peon is that Americans have the stomach to do those things which you can't because you're too much of a weak, limp-wristed pussy.

America has its problems, but so does Britain. Britain is a land of the effete forever trying to inflate their sense of relevance in the modern world. The empire is gone and so you compensate by trying to look down your noses at the rest of the world.

The problem with that is that while the City is a whirlwind of financial activity, the country is devolving. Unchecked immigration has flooded British streets with religious nutcases whose creed is inimical to the Western way of life. Even worse, unchecked feminism has raised a generation of boys who are too weak to be men (yes, I'm looking at you Peon). Ironically, the only hard men in Britain these days are the criminal thugs and the lower classes who need masculinity to defend themselves from predators. I have no doubt that had you lived during the second World War, you would've been one of those useless wastes of space who advocated apeasement. You would've rolled over and shown Hitler your belly because you lack the spine to do anything else.

Right now Peon, it's a fact that anyone living in reasonably sized British city who actually feels safe is suffering from a phenomenal form of self-delusion. Islamic fundamentalism is rife in Britain and the speed with which it has spread - through the prison population in particular - is alarming.

The problem with Islam is that the structure of the religious dogma and the imposition it makes upon everyday life exploits aspects of human psychology. In other words, it employs exactly the same methodologies as cults to control its members. This is why it is a death cult. It employs brainwashing techniques and it preaches death. It is a death cult. Which part of this is too complex for your brain to process?

For the love of God, Emmeline Pankhurst and Germaine Greer, Peon - do some fucking research so you can at least speak intelligently about this subject. Your emotive outbursts reveal a mind dominated by feels with an almost negligible capacity to employ logic. It's clear that the only thing keeping you in a job is nepotism.




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