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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/2/2017 8:15:36 PM

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But they are ours and we cannot eliminate them...More men women and children are gunned down in St. Louis alone this year then all of the UK...so I can at least understand PeonForHer's position. Myself when it comes to children being murdered with guns I don't care if they are blue... they all bleed red.

Butch

Shootings in blue States are something else that the evil liberal conspiracy is arranging to try to make the republicans look bad.

I do think the areas of denser populations tend to be more open to gun control and Blue. More people with more guns in close proximity means more gun violence. This presents different problems than many Red states. I think not understanding this difference presents a misunderstanding as to the need of more control of guns between the general groups. It is not political at all but necessity.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/2/2017 9:27:02 PM

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But they are ours and we cannot eliminate them...More men women and children are gunned down in St. Louis alone this year then all of the UK...so I can at least understand PeonForHer's position. Myself when it comes to children being murdered with guns I don't care if they are blue... they all bleed red.

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Shootings in blue States are something else that the evil liberal conspiracy is arranging to try to make the republicans look bad.

I do think the areas of denser populations tend to be more open to gun control and Blue. More people with more guns in close proximity means more gun violence. This presents different problems than many Red states. I think not understanding this difference presents a misunderstanding as to the need of more control of guns between the general groups. It is not political at all but necessity.

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A few years ago, less than 10, The vote to abolish marriage past, but the legislature ignored the vote.
Do you think that was reason to get rid of them.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/3/2017 11:19:20 AM

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Last night ,in St Louis, a pizza driver(and legitimate gun owner)
was being robbed and pistol whipped and pistol whipped when he
produced his own firearm and shot one of the 2 attackers.
If he hadn't been armed no one would have been shot.
He might have been beaten to death but no one would have been shot.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/3/2017 11:26:41 AM

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In 2001 we had a vote on removing a clause from the Al constitution
making it illegal for people of different races to marry .
It hadn't been enforced for decades.
Officials made it clear that the election made little to no difference.
If the removal passed it would be removed.
If it failed they would continue to ignore it.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/3/2017 4:35:13 PM

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Dem state senator promotes presidential assassination.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/3/2017 4:47:24 PM

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We had a vote on a state lottery.
I worked with a guy who said that any representative who
voted different than his district should be voted out of office.
I asked him what he thought about voting the way his district did
and while the motion carried the state more districts went against it.
He replied as you. When then majority of the state went his way
then representatives were no longer responsible to their districts.
I suspect (being aware of how things work in Mo politics) that the
concealed carry won places like St Louis but lost most of the districts
and the representatives did what their districts wanted.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/3/2017 5:33:25 PM

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Last night ,in St Louis, a pizza driver(and legitimate gun owner)
was being robbed and pistol whipped and pistol whipped when he
produced his own firearm and shot one of the 2 attackers.
If he hadn't been armed no one would have been shot.
He might have been beaten to death but no one would have been shot.

Yea and in just 22 days this year 7 children were shot and two killed in St. Louis... I would rather see a pizza driver lose a few bucks than 7 children shot...how about you

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/3/2017 6:08:33 PM

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Last night ,in St Louis, a pizza driver(and legitimate gun owner)
was being robbed and pistol whipped and pistol whipped when he
produced his own firearm and shot one of the 2 attackers.
If he hadn't been armed no one would have been shot.
He might have been beaten to death but no one would have been shot.

Yea and in just 22 days this year 7 children were shot and two killed in St. Louis... I would rather see a pizza driver lose a few bucks than 7 children shot...how about you

And 50children were beaten to death. And it wasn't just a matter of losing a few dollars did you miss
the part about them pistol whipping him? Of course you know they would
have gotten bored before he was dead wouldn't they?
And who said that was the only life saved because someone had a gun.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/3/2017 6:12:03 PM

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Last night ,in St Louis, a pizza driver(and legitimate gun owner)
was being robbed and pistol whipped and pistol whipped when he
produced his own firearm and shot one of the 2 attackers.
If he hadn't been armed no one would have been shot.
He might have been beaten to death but no one would have been shot.

Yea and in just 22 days this year 7 children were shot and two killed in St. Louis... I would rather see a pizza driver lose a few bucks than 7 children shot...how about you

And 50children were beaten to death. And it wasn't just a matter of losing a few dollars did you miss
the part about them pistol whipping him? Of course you know they would
have gotten bored before he was dead wouldn't they?
And who said that was the only life saved because someone had a gun.

Show me where 50 children were beaten to death in St louis Bama... you know that's bullshit... Look you start arming pizza drivers crooks, with guns stolen from the careless likes of you, will not give them a chance to draw a weapon... there will just be more pizza drivers shot and killed... You have no common sense when it comes to guns. If a crook with a gun knows a driver is not armed he has no reason to shoot him... if he thinks the driver is armed he will shot him before he could use his gun... Please remember the crook is not going to yell.... I've got a gun... I'm coming to rob you... get your gun out so we can have a fair fight... you are just not thinking.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/3/2017 6:27:35 PM

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Last night ,in St Louis, a pizza driver(and legitimate gun owner)
was being robbed and pistol whipped and pistol whipped when he
produced his own firearm and shot one of the 2 attackers.
If he hadn't been armed no one would have been shot.
He might have been beaten to death but no one would have been shot.

Yea and in just 22 days this year 7 children were shot and two killed in St. Louis... I would rather see a pizza driver lose a few bucks than 7 children shot...how about you

And 50children were beaten to death. And it wasn't just a matter of losing a few dollars did you miss
the part about them pistol whipping him? Of course you know they would
have gotten bored before he was dead wouldn't they?
And who said that was the only life saved because someone had a gun.

Show me where 50 children were beaten to death in St louis Bama... you know that's bullshit... Look you start arming pizza drivers crooks, with guns stolen from the careless likes of you, will not give them a chance to draw a weapon... there will just be more pizza drivers shot and killed... You have no common sense when it comes to guns. If a crook with a gun knows a driver is not armed he has no reason to shoot him... if he thinks the driver is armed he will shot him before he could use his gun... Please remember the crook is not going to yell.... I've got a gun... I'm coming to rob you... get your gun out so we can have a fair fight... you are just not thinking.

Right they thought he was unarmed so they were going to pistol whip him till they got bored.
A couple of years ago an unarmed pizza guy was beaten by 5 guys with baseball bats about a block from my house.
Not being armed sure protected him didn't it?
Shows how much you know, I don't leave guns unattended.
you know that people are more likely to pick something up and hit a kid
than shoot them, and they are much more likely to get away with it.
You spout numbers all the time and everyone is supposed to accept it on your say.
Do you have a special connection with the police to keep you informed ?

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/3/2017 6:35:21 PM

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Hey Butch? re your response about children being beaten...
maybe you should share it with bama.
re "spouting numbers"

Leading Causes of injury_deaths _un intentional, in 2015 by age group..
CDC 2015.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/3/2017 6:37:43 PM

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Last night ,in St Louis, a pizza driver(and legitimate gun owner)
was being robbed and pistol whipped and pistol whipped when he
produced his own firearm and shot one of the 2 attackers.
If he hadn't been armed no one would have been shot.
He might have been beaten to death but no one would have been shot.

Yea and in just 22 days this year 7 children were shot and two killed in St. Louis... I would rather see a pizza driver lose a few bucks than 7 children shot...how about you

And 50children were beaten to death. And it wasn't just a matter of losing a few dollars did you miss
the part about them pistol whipping him? Of course you know they would
have gotten bored before he was dead wouldn't they?
And who said that was the only life saved because someone had a gun.

Show me where 50 children were beaten to death in St louis Bama... you know that's bullshit... Look you start arming pizza drivers crooks, with guns stolen from the careless likes of you, will not give them a chance to draw a weapon... there will just be more pizza drivers shot and killed... You have no common sense when it comes to guns. If a crook with a gun knows a driver is not armed he has no reason to shoot him... if he thinks the driver is armed he will shot him before he could use his gun... Please remember the crook is not going to yell.... I've got a gun... I'm coming to rob you... get your gun out so we can have a fair fight... you are just not thinking.

Right they thought he was unarmed so they were going to pistol whip him till they got bored.
A couple of years ago an unarmed pizza guy was beaten by 5 guys with baseball bats about a block from my house.
Not being armed sure protected him didn't it?
Shows how much you know, I don't leave guns unattended.
you know that people are more likely to pick something up and hit a kid
than shoot them, and they are much more likely to get away with it.
You spout numbers all the time and everyone is supposed to accept it on your say.
Do you have a special connection with the police to keep you informed ?

Before I waste time answering your post will you please prove to me with a link to the claim, 50 children beaten to death in St. louis, you made in defense of your comments... If you lie or exaggerate you are not worth talking to... if you have made a mistake in the heat of discussion...admit it and we can continue...otherwise I find nothing to gain talking with a lair.

Butch

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/3/2017 6:41:43 PM

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https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/LeadingCauses.html
that link is more specific regarding other numbers such as this

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/3/2017 6:51:34 PM

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I posted this chart, or one like it, in another thread and Bama just ignores its obvious conclusions... otherwise common sense and truth are ignored in his worship of everything guns. He started talking about kids drowning in swimming pools and car accidents as if that makes all gun deaths ok.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/3/2017 7:00:22 PM

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670 kids have died or been injured this year, under the age of 11 as victims of a nut with a gun

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/3/2017 7:00:44 PM

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I posted this chart, or one like it, in another thread and Bama just ignores its obvious conclusions... otherwise common sense and truth are ignored in his worship of everything guns. He started talking about kids drowning in swimming pools and car accidents.

Butch

I never saw any such chart. But your claim to know about every killing
shows that you just make things up as you go along.
there isn't an exact list of the kids beaten to death.
Use you head. If someone knocks a kid in the head how can you prove
they didn't just fall down some stairs? That is the easy way to get away with it.
My area is to dangerous to deliver to, except my house because I provide protection.
How would you suggest that the guy beaten with baseball bats could have prevented that?
Just turn the area over to the thugs?
You judge the whole world by the cesspool you live in.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/3/2017 7:04:20 PM

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You lied then... can't admit it then I'll not waste any more time with you...see Lucy's post above and see if she will put up with you.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/3/2017 7:08:00 PM

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You lied then... can't admit it then I'll not waste any more time with you...see Lucy's post above and see if she will put up with you.

No I made a rhetorical estimate which makes more sense than your garbage
about if you just let them take what they want your safe.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/3/2017 7:10:41 PM

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He cant argue numbers or facts and has had me on hide forever, because of it.he wont look at the figures.
In short, its simple, its pointless.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 12/5/2017 9:39:17 AM

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You lied then... can't admit it then I'll not waste any more time with you...see Lucy's post above and see if she will put up with you.

No I made a rhetorical estimate which makes more sense than your garbage
about if you just let them take what they want your safe.

I provided armed security for the pizza girl yesterday.
How many dead children does that make me responsible for?
Keep in mind that there have been no children shot in my town this year.
The pizza people seem to think that being beaten and robbed is a big
deal and only deliver to me (due to the part of town I live in ) because I provide
armed security. Pizza isn't that important to me, but taking part of my area back from he thugs is.

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