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BoscoX -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 8:04:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

But he was not the setting President at the time... he should have spent less time talking with the Russians and more time planning his inauguration and he wouldn’t have been so embarrassed by the lack of attendance

Butch



He was president elect. Despite your confusion, all presidents begin setting the transition in motion once elected






JVoV -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 8:10:11 AM)

Former cabinet members, including Condi, have said that it is common occurrence for the administration-elect to meet with foreign diplomats. It is pretty much expected in fact.

An incoming administration team needs to build relations with their counterparts in foreign government, give the illusion of stability with regime change, etc. Really just be friendly.

But since there can only be one President at a time, speaking about specific policies, or changes to them, could undermine the current administration and be considered treasonous, depending on the scope. Obviously anything the president-elect has said in campaign speeches or debates, or has posted on Twitter is public record, so repeating those statements shouldn't be grounds for charges, but it is always best to speak in vague generalities, positive whenever possible and appropriate.

It goes without saying that a new President means a different way of dealing with the world, to at least some degree. Moreso when there's a change of party in charge.

Russia has been at least trying to interfere with our elections for God knows how long. 2016 is just the first time it has been so blatant, and some would argue successful. Condoleeza Rice said it was likely a personal attack on Hillary, since she questioned Putin's election win when she was Secretary of State.

But the attacks on our election could never have been possible if the DNC hadn't been so lax in their Cyber security, if social media companies in America refused foreign money for political advertising, and if the American people as a whole weren't so damn divided on so many issues.

And as much as I do blame Trump for antagonizing the divide in this country, I blame Hillary for knowingly giving him such an opportunity to exploit us all. She has to know that she had too much baggage to be electable. Half the country flat out hates her.

In one way or another, our country needs to heal. We absolutely must find common ground, even on the most controversial issues, and make progress towards resolving them.

We need true leadership to make that happen. Not just in our government, but in our churches, communities, schools, and businesses.

There has to be suitable compromises that do not compromise anyone's personal rights, or who we are as a people. We have to stop demonizing one another because of our beliefs and politics, and make a serious attempt to find common ground. But sadly, even reasonable debate is impossible in the current environment. Worse, it seems that there are far too many that seek to cause even more strife among us.




BoscoX -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 8:33:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

In one way or another, our country needs to heal. We absolutely must find common ground, even on the most controversial issues, and make progress towards resolving them.


When a multi-felon illegal alien can shoot a woman, and it's considered a "win" for the left to get him acquitted of any serious charges... When the "news" is demonstrably mostly propaganda, and the left LIKES it that way... When it is practically a crime in and of itself to be a straight white male... Etc... I can safely say, we won't be finding any common ground any time soon




Lucylastic -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 8:42:27 AM)

practically
scared of being a white man?
you poor baby




WhoreMods -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 8:46:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: JVoV

In one way or another, our country needs to heal. We absolutely must find common ground, even on the most controversial issues, and make progress towards resolving them.


When a multi-felon illegal alien can shoot a woman, and it's considered a "win" for the left to get him acquitted of any serious charges... When the "news" is demonstrably mostly propaganda, and the left LIKES it that way... When it is practically a crime in and of itself to be a straight white male... Etc... I can safely say, we won't be finding any common ground any time soon

Obviously you have no common ground, no: the person you're talking to isn't so far gone into psychosis that they've developed an allergy to facts.




BoscoX -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 8:47:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

practically
scared of being a white man?
you poor baby


You are right, I missed one:

When the left has to constantly launch childish fallacies, deliberately sabotaging even their own threads - because they cannot debate the facts...




Lucylastic -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 8:56:05 AM)

I havent sabotaged anything, you werent debating anything you were farting around like a wet badgers arse, as always




Lucylastic -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 9:05:50 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: JVoV

In one way or another, our country needs to heal. We absolutely must find common ground, even on the most controversial issues, and make progress towards resolving them.


When a multi-felon illegal alien can shoot a woman, and it's considered a "win" for the left to get him acquitted of any serious charges... When the "news" is demonstrably mostly propaganda, and the left LIKES it that way... When it is practically a crime in and of itself to be a straight white male... Etc... I can safely say, we won't be finding any common ground any time soon


batshit trumpers like you, dont have the ability to find their asses let alone common ground.
When nearly 60 are killed and 200 injured and you deny it, and then claim muslims are the problem in america, you wont be able to find common ground
When women are being molested every day and you claim its practically a crime to be a straight white male, you dont get it, your common ground is a sewer grate, catching all the scum floating in the swamp.
you dont have the ability, the desire, or the balls to find common ground.






BoscoX -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 9:16:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

When nearly 60 are killed and 200 injured and you deny it, and then claim muslims are the problem in america, you wont be able to find common ground


Such things are only real in your cartoonish fantasies. No one denied the mass shooting. And the issue with the death cult is not related, nor does anyone say "muslims are the problem in america"

You are simply incapable of addressing the issues and concerns that are legitimately raised, especially not in a sane manner

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When women are being molested every day and you claim its practically a crime to be a straight white male, you dont get it


The two things are separate issues. Leftist trash ignored Bill Clinton's accusers for years and years, but now "molestation of women" is the only issue that matters because it is politically convenient for you

Where can common ground be found when Soros minions are absolute soulless hypocrites not only on that issue but every other issue as well

You cannot discuss the hate that leftist elites have widely demonstrated for straight white men honestly. Being leftist trash many of you habitually deflect in a knee-jerk manner every time literally any serious issue arises

Which is why I point out your almost cartoonish fantasylands - facts and reality are not your friends. Ergo, there can be no common ground







Lucylastic -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 9:19:02 AM)

you do talk bollocks, get them out of your mouth, your lips are fraying.




WhoreMods -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 9:20:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Which is why I point out your almost cartoonish fantasylands - facts and reality are not your friends. Ergo, there can be no common ground

That'd give you something in common immediately, if you were talking about other people's failings, rather than merely projecting your own.




BoscoX -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 9:27:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

you do talk bollocks, get them out of your mouth, your lips are fraying.


Most leftist trash is exactly like you

You can manage these meaningless, hollow personal attacks day in and day out. But real discussion is far so far above and beyond your mindless howling that it is laughable and ridiculous




Lucylastic -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 9:33:53 AM)

projection, projection, projection.
you havent answered any of the questions I posed about Flynn and Trump.
not one,
I even discussed ABC fucking up, 8 hours before you decided you needed to say howlers so bad. you thought it was "worthy of a new topic"
your clip of panetta (out of context) proves your bullshit is bullshit, because you wont discuss anything where you might be wrong.
Luckily most republicans arent like you




BoscoX -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 9:41:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

projection, projection, projection.
you havent answered any of the questions I posed about Flynn and Trump.
not one,
I even discussed ABC fucking up, 8 hours before you decided you needed to say howlers so bad. you thought it was "worthy of a new topic"
your clip of panetta (out of context) proves your bullshit is bullshit, because you wont discuss anything where you might be wrong.
Luckily most republicans arent like you



Yeah yeah yeah, Hag - we know.

Every thread is a leftist howl fest about me personally

You just roll in that, while I keep moving on [:)]




Lucylastic -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 10:13:19 AM)

how can it be, when all you call is howlers and leftist trash, your use of hag, is hillaryous, you poor scared old conservative white man.
you make it about you.
I did mention the thread in my post, not just you, its getting to the point, you need some serious help with your vocabulary again. And to help you understand that you making it about you, is not down to leftists, its down to you,
you dont excel at anything but bullshit.




BoscoX -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 10:23:23 AM)


Just for laughs... [:D]
quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

how can it be, when all you call is howlers and leftist trash, your use of hag, is hillaryous, you poor scared old conservative white man.
you make it about you.
I did mention the thread in my post, not just you, its getting to the point, you need some serious help with your vocabulary again. And to help you understand that you making it about you, is not down to leftists, its down to you,
you dont excel at anything but bullshit.



quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

projection, projection, projection.
you havent answered any of the questions I posed about Flynn and Trump.
not one,
I even discussed ABC fucking up, 8 hours before you decided you needed to say howlers so bad. you thought it was "worthy of a new topic"
your clip of panetta (out of context) proves your bullshit is bullshit, because you wont discuss anything where you might be wrong.
Luckily most republicans arent like you








WhoreMods -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 10:38:50 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Most leftist trash is exactly like you

You can manage these meaningless, hollow personal attacks day in and day out. But real discussion is far so far above and beyond your mindless howling that it is laughable and ridiculous

He said, personal attackish and nothing to do with the topic under discussion-ally.




Politesub53 -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 12:05:31 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

practically
scared of being a white man?
you poor baby


You are right, I missed one:

When the left has to constantly launch childish fallacies, deliberately sabotaging even their own threads - because they cannot debate the facts...



Good God, this is purile nonsense even by your own low standards Bosco. You piss and moan about commies and lefties but back up Trump and his team for holding secret meetings with Putin. Irony is certainly not your strongest point.




BoscoX -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 3:14:02 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

practically
scared of being a white man?
you poor baby


You are right, I missed one:

When the left has to constantly launch childish fallacies, deliberately sabotaging even their own threads - because they cannot debate the facts...



Good God, this is purile nonsense even by your own low standards Bosco. You piss and moan about commies and lefties but back up Trump and his team for holding secret meetings with Putin. Irony is certainly not your strongest point.


The "secret meetings with Putin" occurred only in your howling mad cartoonish reality

There were no secret meetings with Putin




kdsub -> RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guilty plea expected (12/2/2017 6:14:15 PM)




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He was president elect.



You see that is one of his problems among many... he was not President and his actions could be considered against the law. You cannot have two Presidents making policy for the nation.

Butch




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