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Milesnmiles -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 1:58:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Focus50 FR Without reading through the pages here, I think your word choice of "aggressor" is poor. Otherwise, I get where your coming from. Despite the rise of political correctness in this age, which has particularly empowered mouthy minorities including feminist nazis, I've still found many women appreciate a man who takes the lead (don't mean the leather kind here...). Overall, I've found it quite simple to deal with. As a dominant man, I'm not attracted to dominant women. In the vanilla world, substitute "take charge" for dominant. A big step in the initial right direction is to look more at the woman's eyes than her boobs.... Focus. Thank you, thank you, thank you, for a well written responce to the actual OP. It's a shame that such conversational reasponces seem so rare. And you are probably right that "aggressor" was likely a poor chose of words but when I was typing it, it didn't seem that offensive. Oh well live and learn.

needlesandpins -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 2:06:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul Still, I think you both would agree that none of the children any of us has worked with should be taken into consideration when posting on here. Which I think is the point. It's most certainly my point. I don't understand how the hell anyone's mind on this site goes down the road of kids when we're talking adults on an adult site that has very specific rules on the subject. Needles Perhaps, because you seem to be so up on the rules, you could point out where they say if you speak out against child abuse, like I have, it is against the those rules? It's not my job to help you know the rules. Just as it isn't my job to teach you to READ. I have put my words about the rules, and my reference to them being about NOT DISCUSSING MINORS IN ANY FORM, you're not even allowed to post memes that contain kids, no matter how funny, because I NEVER said anything about bloody paedophiles and the rules. So, please stop being a first class dick, stop twisting my words, stop doing to me what others have accused you of, that you claim to not do, and read what I've written correctly. Again, in the hope it will sink in to your head, the rules are against the mention of anyone under age, thus when we consider consent the thought of anyone under age should be in our minds ON HERE. Just as any reasonably intelligent person also wouldn't be thinking of those that are drunk/drugged. Because I'd only think to qualify that if I was talking to someone really fucking stupid! Needles

Milesnmiles -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 2:11:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul Still, I think you both would agree that none of the children any of us has worked with should be taken into consideration when posting on here. Which I think is the point. You really think that is a good idea? Maybe not as individual cases but when talking about how to stop child abuse shouldn't everything be taken into consideration, even here? Not the topic of this thread. Oh I totally agree, with the possible exception of two or three like Focus50 this entire thread has been a shouting match which has had almost nothing to do with the topic of this thread. I've tried to turn it back to the the topic but I have to admit it seems that I've been throwing gas on it instead. I thought the topic could be a relatively nice topic for a conversation about where to draw the fine line between men and women and what seems to be too far or not far enough but it just hasn't happened.

PeonForHer -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 2:24:09 PM)
FR As an aside: Christ almighty - this website really does confound me at times. It's the only site I know where very old men - or somewhat younger men who are, for instance, somewhat vertically challenged and dangerously obese - continually harp on about their 'alphaness', their consequent 'natural assertiveness and aggressiveness', and how political correctness and feminazism (etc, etc) is destroying all that's 'natural' in the world. A question: How much older, fatter and less fit do I have to become before I can become an alpha (TM) male, myself?

bounty44 -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 2:30:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins ...about the rules, and my reference to them being about NOT DISCUSSING MINORS IN ANY FORM, you're not even allowed to post memes that contain kids, no matter how funny, because I NEVER said anything about bloody paedophiles and the rules. So, please stop being a first class dick, stop twisting my words, stop doing to me what others have accused you of, that you claim to not do, and read what I've written correctly. im not entirely sure what youre saying here, but just to be clear, the only prohibition discussion-wise concerning minors has explicitly to do with illegal activities. there is nothing in the TOS that suggests they cannot be discussed in any other fashion. in terms of images, the TOS are silent. there is one reference that says: "5.2.1. All depictions of all persons on Our Website are of persons over the age of eighteen (18) as of the date of the production of the depiction. We take great measures to ensure that no underage models appear in any of Our materials." that is written from the perspective from the site itself. there is nothing that speaks specifically, or even alluding to, what members post, presumably so long as it is not illegal, or along the lines of anything illegal.

needlesandpins -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 2:37:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer FR As an aside: Christ almighty - this website really does confound me at times. It's the only site I know where very old men - or somewhat younger men who are, for instance, somewhat vertically challenged and dangerously obese - continually harp on about their 'alphaness', their consequent 'natural assertiveness and aggressiveness', and how political correctness and feminazism (etc, etc) is destroying all that's 'natural' in the world. A question: How much older, fatter and less fit do I have to become before I can become an alpha (TM) male, myself? Oh God, for myself, I'd much rather you stay as you are, regardless of age, and aesthetics. Needles

Milesnmiles -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 2:40:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins I'm thinking very clearly thanks, but you are full of crap! Thank you for your opinion. quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins I'm all for the paedophiles?. You're out of your mind, and you certainly lack reading comprehension. No, you blithering idiot, I'm not for the paedophiles at all. My negativity it totally aimed at you for being so passive aggressive towards other people, and then myself, because you can't accept that actually you are at fault here. You're proving that right now with this accusation, which to an actual abuse victim has to be one of the lowest, and weakest things a mind could come up with. It's as pathetic as the bullshit that Respectmen comes out with when he can't debate reasonably either. You ever hear the phrase; the enemy of my enemy is my friend? Why do you "think" that is? Because when you attack those who are on the same side as you against a common problem, you are reducing the fighting power against that problem and are thus allowing that problem to win. So now, do you think that some how attacking me is helping the cause against child abuse? I may be almost everything you say I am but still does attacking me stop child abuse or does it take both you and me from the fight and allow pedophiles to advance their cause unheeded? quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins You see, the rules of the site may not be against discussing pedophiles, or ranting against them, BUT I NEVER SAID THEY WERE ... did I? No, I said the rules are against discussing MINORS, thus no-one should be thinking of them, just as Clover seemed not to be. Only your twisted mind went there. 'Yes means yes' amongst adults, now remember back when I said this comes with qualifications and boundaries? Please tell me that I don't have to Parrot every single fricking thing I say in every single post just so it sticks in your head??? You see, any normal person knows full well not to take advantage of someone that is drunk, or drugged up off their head so that consent couldn't actually be construed as legal. Again though, I shouldn't have had to qualify that to anyone with any reasonable amount of intelligence. Now as for what is my business, you posted in an open forum, and you are picking and twisting what other people are writing to cause arguments, and then included my own words, thus you made it my business! Can't stand that someone is going to pull you up for your bullshit, tough, so get over it. Oooh, nice side step, you keep bringing up the "Rules" like you wrote them and so some how, because you can't think your way out of a paper bag and won't admit you got who I was and what I was saying wrong, I must be breaking the RULES. Well I'm not and go stick that in your shoe. PS There is nothing wrong about thinking of children, I do it quite often and often I hope that they don't run into harpies like you that seem to have nothing better to do than poison their innocent minds with their anger and hatred.

needlesandpins -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 2:48:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 [ quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins ...about the rules, and my reference to them being about NOT DISCUSSING MINORS IN ANY FORM, you're not even allowed to post memes that contain kids, no matter how funny, because I NEVER said anything about bloody paedophiles and the rules. So, please stop being a first class dick, stop twisting my words, stop doing to me what others have accused you of, that you claim to not do, and read what I've written correctly. im not entirely sure what youre saying here, but just to be clear, the only prohibition discussion-wise concerning minors has explicitly to do with illegal activities. there is nothing in the TOS that suggests they cannot be discussed in any other fashion. in terms of images, the TOS are silent. there is one reference that says: "5.2.1. All depictions of all persons on Our Website are of persons over the age of eighteen (18) as of the date of the production of the depiction. We take great measures to ensure that no underage models appear in any of Our materials." that is written from the perspective from the site itself. there is nothing that speaks specifically, or even alluding to, what members post, presumably so long as it is not illegal, or along the lines of anything illegal. Maybe you've never had your posts pulled then, and the Mods on your case for such things. I've seen quite a few members do so whilst I've been here. I had a photo that I posted in the train wreck thread pulled, it simply had a baby in a funny pose with a sarcastic quote, but it broke site rules. That rule you quote covers us all, not just the site owners, because what we post, and they allow us to leave can be used against them. Thus if you report profiles on the other side for having photos of what appear to be children in them they are usually removed, or at least they were. I don't know if anyone is actually working on such things these days. As for the discussion of minors the sake of illegal purposes, well sex with them is just that, so for the purposes of this thread I'm right, and Milesandsmiles is wrong, so what's ya point? It still means that in this thread about consent, and no meaning no, why the fuck would anyone be think of having to include children in that? It's not like we're in the admit thread talking about what our kids did in school today. The bullshit aimed at Clover was uncalled for. Needles

Milesnmiles -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 2:49:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins It's not my job to help you know the rules. Just as it isn't my job to teach you to READ. I have put my words about the rules, and my reference to them being about NOT DISCUSSING MINORS IN ANY FORM, you're not even allowed to post memes that contain kids, no matter how funny, because I NEVER said anything about bloody paedophiles and the rules. So, please stop being a first class dick, stop twisting my words, stop doing to me what others have accused you of, that you claim to not do, and read what I've written correctly. Again, in the hope it will sink in to your head, the rules are against the mention of anyone under age, thus when we consider consent the thought of anyone under age should be in our minds ON HERE. Just as any reasonably intelligent person also wouldn't be thinking of those that are drunk/drugged. Because I'd only think to qualify that if I was talking to someone really fucking stupid! Do have any idea of how much thought about minors you seem to have put into your posts? Do you have any idea how much you seem write about minors? And as far as I can tell none of it pleasant.

Milesnmiles -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 2:51:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 [ quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins ...about the rules, and my reference to them being about NOT DISCUSSING MINORS IN ANY FORM, you're not even allowed to post memes that contain kids, no matter how funny, because I NEVER said anything about bloody paedophiles and the rules. So, please stop being a first class dick, stop twisting my words, stop doing to me what others have accused you of, that you claim to not do, and read what I've written correctly. im not entirely sure what youre saying here, but just to be clear, the only prohibition discussion-wise concerning minors has explicitly to do with illegal activities. there is nothing in the TOS that suggests they cannot be discussed in any other fashion. in terms of images, the TOS are silent. there is one reference that says: "5.2.1. All depictions of all persons on Our Website are of persons over the age of eighteen (18) as of the date of the production of the depiction. We take great measures to ensure that no underage models appear in any of Our materials." that is written from the perspective from the site itself. there is nothing that speaks specifically, or even alluding to, what members post, presumably so long as it is not illegal, or along the lines of anything illegal. Thank you for clearing that up for us. ;-)

Milesnmiles -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 3:04:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins ... The bullshit aimed at Clover was uncalled for. This is what I find so hilarious, I mentioned to Clover that she should revamp her "simple slogan" because it had some serious flaws. Now no one has said the flaws aren't there but have instead given all kinds of rationalizations of why I should have just over looked them and have pretty much continually lambasted me for even bringing them up and yet not one person has even suggested to Clover that she might reconsider her "simple slogan".

needlesandpins -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 3:10:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles quote: ORIGINAL: cloverodella quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles I actually was kind enjoying your post until you decided to act like a jerk and started in with your; "(here's a totally! new! concept!) take no for no" idiocy and I thought I bet she also believes that the slogan "just say no to drugs" has stopped drug abuse. I hate to break it to you but real life just doesn't work that way. Just say no to drugs? Where in your ass did you pull that whack ass straw man from? But you're right, in real life it doesn't work out that "no means no" because men, such as yourself, keep arguing that "no" means one of a 50 shads of gray instead of a black and white, plain as day, one word sentence. (And I'll address your non-sequitur for fun... In a family full of hardcore drug addicts, I escaped drug addiction by saying no to drugs. It was simple. I said no when friends offered, and they respected me enough not to ask again. "No" is simple.) Are really this stupid, great it worked for you, whoopee and yet we are in the midst of a massive drug epidemic, how come "just say no" didn't work for them? People like you keep saying things idiotic things like "yes means yes and no, no" and some how think that will fix everything and don't realize that you are actually being a pedophilia apologist. quote: Oooh, nice side step, you keep bringing up the "Rules" like you wrote them and so some how, because you can't think your way out of a paper bag and won't admit you got who I was and what I was saying wrong, I must be breaking the RULES. Well I'm not and go stick that in your shoe. PS There is nothing wrong about thinking of children, I do it quite often and often I hope that they don't run into harpies like you that seem to have nothing better to do than poison their innocent minds with their anger and hatred. Yeah, I know the quote, and as with anyone else that has any amount of intelligence I know it's misguided crap. You see it makes you believe that you should put your faith in someone just because they have a singular enemy to you. Nope, I take every person on pure merit. As for the latter part of what you wrote, again, your lack of reading comprehension is not my problem. try going back to school, or I hear they do some great online courses. Now, I have no idea what you think I'm confused about, who you think I have you confused with, what what you think I confused you of saying to whom. So just for clarification I've quoted your post where YOU tell Cover she's being a paedophile apologist. Crack on though and do tell me exactly with whom I've got you confused, and what I've misquoted you on [:D] Needles

needlesandpins -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 3:24:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins It's not my job to help you know the rules. Just as it isn't my job to teach you to READ. I have put my words about the rules, and my reference to them being about NOT DISCUSSING MINORS IN ANY FORM, you're not even allowed to post memes that contain kids, no matter how funny, because I NEVER said anything about bloody paedophiles and the rules. So, please stop being a first class dick, stop twisting my words, stop doing to me what others have accused you of, that you claim to not do, and read what I've written correctly. Again, in the hope it will sink in to your head, the rules are against the mention of anyone under age, thus when we consider consent the thought of anyone under age should be in our minds ON HERE. Just as any reasonably intelligent person also wouldn't be thinking of those that are drunk/drugged. Because I'd only think to qualify that if I was talking to someone really fucking stupid! Do have any idea of how much thought about minors you seem to have put into your posts? Do you have any idea how much you seem write about minors? And as far as I can tell none of it pleasant. Really? Do carry on and elaborate exactly what I've said about minors in this thread that is so unpleasant. Be very specific and say exactly what I've said about them. Because apart from saying that they shouldn't be in our heads on this site when we're talking about sex and consent ... BECAUSE WE'RE ALL RESPONSIBLE ADULTS AND SHOULDN'T HAVE TO USE QUALIFICATIONS ... and I really shouldn't have had to type that last part, but felt like i had to add that clarification for your benefit, which is seriously sad on your part, reminding me again very much of dealing with Respectmen ... and the fact that I am qualified in several aspects to work with kids, as is my son, you've got fuck all. Again, your being passive aggressive. Your picking and doing the very things you try saying you don't do. I say you have no right to accuse someone of something based purely on what they say based on it being related to adults on an adult site. I state that the rules state that this is an adult only site, ya know, no minors allowed, no photos, no talking about them in a sexual fashion, thus why would we be thinking of them in this thread, so then YOU accuse me of being on the Paedophiles side. Only someone sick in the head could even go there. Now you claim this crap. You need therapy. Needles

needlesandpins -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 3:29:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins ... The bullshit aimed at Clover was uncalled for. This is what I find so hilarious, I mentioned to Clover that she should revamp her "simple slogan" because it had some serious flaws. Now no one has said the flaws aren't there but have instead given all kinds of rationalizations of why I should have just over looked them and have pretty much continually lambasted me for even bringing them up and yet not one person has even suggested to Clover that she might reconsider her "simple slogan". That's not what you did you raging liar! See my post below. You threw a horrid insult at her that was totally uncalled for. You were totally out of order. Her comments, to anyone with half a working brain cell didn't need any further clarification. Non of the rest of us have picked Clover up on what she said because we are not stupid enough to have gone where you did. It's really that simple. You, and you alone turned all this into what it is by being out of order about what you said. You're just too damn weak to see it. Needles

Focus50 -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 3:40:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles And you are probably right that "aggressor" was likely a poor chose of words but when I was typing it, it didn't seem that offensive. Well yeah, "aggressor" is the kinda thing Police wanna establish when sorting through the aftermath of a punch-up. Not desirable in a relationship sense.... Focus.

Focus50 -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 4:13:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer FR <snip> and how political correctness and feminazism (etc, etc) is destroying all that's 'natural' in the world. Well Peon, your post has "FR" at the head but me ears wuz burnin a bit here. (k, eyes....) Am I to take it that you're the first ever advocate of political correctness that I've ever come across? Cause to take from the OP's response to 63yo me, yep, live and learn.... For the record, I don't generally have a problem with the concept of feminists or feminism. But those who push it like entitled, self-righteous nazis (nazi's? nazis looks wrong), yeah, total waste of breathable air! Damned good to see a familiar face here, but.... quote: A question: How much older, fatter and less fit do I have to become before I can become an alpha (TM) male, myself? Least I think I remember you, coz I don't recall any aspirations of alphaness? Ok, guilty of being old.... ;) Focus.

PeonForHer -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 4:52:05 PM)
Well, I'm getting on a bit myself, F. Good to see you too. ;)

Milesnmiles -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 5:09:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins Yeah, I know the quote, and as with anyone else that has any amount of intelligence I know it's misguided crap. You see it makes you believe that you should put your faith in someone just because they have a singular enemy to you. Nope, I take every person on pure merit. No, it's not misguided crap but hey everyone to their own opinion. It doesn't say to put your faith in them, it merely say to join sides till the battle is over, then, if you feel so inclined attack them. quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins As for the latter part of what you wrote, again, your lack of reading comprehension is not my problem. try going back to school, or I hear they do some great online courses. Now, I have no idea what you think I'm confused about, who you think I have you confused with, what what you think I confused you of saying to whom. So just for clarification I've quoted your post where YOU tell Cover she's being a pedophile apologist. What do think you clarified? I never denied that is what I said and rationalize all you want, I still believe that without serious qualifications her "Yes means yes" nonsense can be a "home" for pedophiles but because I said it suddenly you start treating me like I'm pedophile, good grief, can't you people get anything right? quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins Crack on though and do tell me exactly with whom I've got you confused, and what I've misquoted you on [:D] Why should I even try, so we can be friends? You have misconstrued and twisted everything I've said, with friends like that who needs enemies? PS it's nice to see that it seems you've at least calmed down a bit or are you just trying to catch your second wind. ;-)

Milesnmiles -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 5:28:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins Really? Do carry on and elaborate exactly what I've said about minors in this thread that is so unpleasant. Be very specific and say exactly what I've said about them. Because apart from saying that they shouldn't be in our heads on this site when we're talking about sex and consent ... BECAUSE WE'RE ALL RESPONSIBLE ADULTS AND SHOULDN'T HAVE TO USE QUALIFICATIONS ... and I really shouldn't have had to type that last part, but felt like i had to add that clarification for your benefit, which is seriously sad on your part, reminding me again very much of dealing with Respectmen ... and the fact that I am qualified in several aspects to work with kids, as is my son, you've got fuck all. Well I'll be... look who is still making it a topic of conversation. I made one comment and you can't seem to stop talking about it. I seem to remember an old ZEN story where monks were to have nothing to do with women and two monks came to stream and a woman was standing there trying to cross the stream and one picked her up and carried her across and put her down. A mile later the other monk said we're not suppose to have anything to do with women and the monk that carried her across said I put her down back there, you appear to still be carrying her. quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins Again, your being passive aggressive. Your picking and doing the very things you try saying you don't do. I say you have no right to accuse someone of something based purely on what they say based on it being related to adults on an adult site. I state that the rules state that this is an adult only site, ya know, no minors allowed, no photos, no talking about them in a sexual fashion, thus why would we be thinking of them in this thread, so then YOU accuse me of being on the Paedophiles side. Only someone sick in the head could even go there. You've just gotta love amateur psychologists, a few posts and they've got you all figured out and can tell everything about you and even tell: quote: Now you claim this crap. You need therapy. whether you need therapy. Thanx but don't quit your day job.

Milesnmiles -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/8/2017 5:32:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins ... The bullshit aimed at Clover was uncalled for. This is what I find so hilarious, I mentioned to Clover that she should revamp her "simple slogan" because it had some serious flaws. Now no one has said the flaws aren't there but have instead given all kinds of rationalizations of why I should have just over looked them and have pretty much continually lambasted me for even bringing them up and yet not one person has even suggested to Clover that she might reconsider her "simple slogan". That's not what you did you raging liar! See my post below. You threw a horrid insult at her that was totally uncalled for. You were totally out of order. Her comments, to anyone with half a working brain cell didn't need any further clarification. Non of the rest of us have picked Clover up on what she said because we are not stupid enough to have gone where you did. It's really that simple. You, and you alone turned all this into what it is by being out of order about what you said. You're just too damn weak to see it. I see, I'm a beast and all she needs is a few minor rationalizations. Yep, one comment and I'm horrible, okay great, I'm horrible. Now go away.

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