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Milesnmiles -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 7:25:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 in so much as I said "I wasn't sure what you were saying", I have "no point" other than to share what I understand the rules to be. and im not picking sides in the discussion as to who's right or wrong. and no, the TOS rule I quoted clearly is written from the perspective of the website, not the users. if moderators are indeed removing posts that have kids in them, that's a function of their own sensitivity and not something explicitly stated. those actions cannot be directly tied to that TOS section. The whole of section five covers the topic. The TOS are the rules by which we have to adhere, now people can try and swing around those however they see fit, but let's face it, we're adults on a BDSM site. We're talking about adults, so why the hell would your mind even go there? This is not the general chit chat group where a general discussion on a whole saying was opened up for discussion. This is specifically the BDSM board where a question was asked about 'aggressive' men in the work place, and whether men should back off of women. So, purely for the sake of this topic, on this particular site, on this very specific board, it really should never have been questioned that 'no means no'. In fact, really, in any place at any time it shouldn't. The qualifications surrounding 'yes' are totally different ... well, that only needs qualifying to someone that doesn't have a correctly working brain. 5.2. WE HAVE A ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY FOR CHILD PORNOGRAPHY AND A ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY REGARDING PEDOPHILES, PEDERASTS OR ANY PEDOPHILIC, PEDERASTIC, OR SIMILAR RELATED ACTIVITY. This is the policy by which all photos on the site containing children are deleted. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why. This isn't facebook. When my photo was removed and I asked why, the Mod at the time quoted this section to me as i recall. It's a long time ago, but I wasn't here before 2007 and that's the last time the TOS was revised according to the top of the page. Needles It seems like I may not be the only one here that "has to have the last word" and honestly bounty44 has only been nice in letting us know what the rules actually are, so why in the world would you, in a post to him accuse him by saying; "why the hell would your mind even go there"? Is it because you think he's a man and so his mind must "go there"? And if you were not accusing him, the use of another word could have excluded him and you owe him an apology.

longwayhome -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 7:26:37 AM)
Oh the irony.

needlesandpins -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 7:39:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 in so much as I said "I wasn't sure what you were saying", I have "no point" other than to share what I understand the rules to be. and im not picking sides in the discussion as to who's right or wrong. and no, the TOS rule I quoted clearly is written from the perspective of the website, not the users. if moderators are indeed removing posts that have kids in them, that's a function of their own sensitivity and not something explicitly stated. those actions cannot be directly tied to that TOS section. The whole of section five covers the topic. The TOS are the rules by which we have to adhere, now people can try and swing around those however they see fit, but let's face it, we're adults on a BDSM site. We're talking about adults, so why the hell would your mind even go there? This is not the general chit chat group where a general discussion on a whole saying was opened up for discussion. This is specifically the BDSM board where a question was asked about 'aggressive' men in the work place, and whether men should back off of women. So, purely for the sake of this topic, on this particular site, on this very specific board, it really should never have been questioned that 'no means no'. In fact, really, in any place at any time it shouldn't. The qualifications surrounding 'yes' are totally different ... well, that only needs qualifying to someone that doesn't have a correctly working brain. 5.2. WE HAVE A ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY FOR CHILD PORNOGRAPHY AND A ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY REGARDING PEDOPHILES, PEDERASTS OR ANY PEDOPHILIC, PEDERASTIC, OR SIMILAR RELATED ACTIVITY. This is the policy by which all photos on the site containing children are deleted. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why. This isn't facebook. When my photo was removed and I asked why, the Mod at the time quoted this section to me as i recall. It's a long time ago, but I wasn't here before 2007 and that's the last time the TOS was revised according to the top of the page. Needles It seems like I may not be the only one here that "has to have the last word" and honestly bounty44 has only been nice in letting us know what the rules actually are, so why in the world would you, in a post to him accuse him by saying; "why the hell would your mind even go there"? Is it because you think he's a man and so his mind must "go there"? And if you were not accusing him, the use of another word could have excluded him and you owe him an apology. Oh my god. It's generic! Again, YOUR reading comprehension fails YOU. I was not insulting Bounty, Bounty has not been a part of the discussion with me. Needles

needlesandpins -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 8:04:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins quote: ORIGINAL: cloverodella quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles When I was raised men were to be the aggressor and women were to be passive. The old “men chase and women choose” concept. But now it seems that if the “chase” is more than a onetime offer of dinner, it is sexual harassment. (In the work place asking twice can legally be considered sexual harassment) So I guess my question is; are men to stop being the aggressor, stop chasing and just let women chase and choose? Simply, YES, men are to stop being the aggressor stop chasing and just let women chase and choose. The whole premise is wrong from the start -- you're conflating "pursuer" with "aggressor". They are two very different things. Pursuing a women is asking her out and if she declines or acts wishy-washy, stop pursuing. There is no chasing her, just accepting rejection. After she says no, continuing after her is aggressive. Being an aggressor is to get rejected, but then keep asking until she finally relents. It doesn't have to be in a "mean" manner, just unwanted. Aggressive acts in this sense may include gift-giving, dinner offers, flowers, etc.; acts that would be otherwise be considered nice or romantic. Think Pepé le Pew. My instinct was to call him an extreme example, but with all the women coming out with stories of unwelcome or forced kissing, groping, hugging, etc. some men in power have taken his behavior as normal. The answer here is simple. It's the same as the 2 consent threads you started. If you're worried about being a harasser, just stop assuming there are mind games going on and (here's a totally! new! concept!) take no for no. If she is the kind to play mind games, she'll either miss out or let you know she actually is interested by saying so. Who wants to be with someone who plays mind games and doesn't just tell you what they want, anyway? As far as the workplace goes, there's an old saying: don't shit where you eat. So this is Clover's very first post to you, where she says exactly the same as Focus, that you said we could all go back and read to see where she was so insulting towards you. Yes, it is her first post. quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins Now, as you refuse to back up your lies with me, come on, highlight the insults in this for me, because I'm calling bullshit on you yet again. There is absolutely nothing insulting about this post at all that you had to ignore what Clover said. I already addressed this but if I must. Here you go, in response to Clover asking the same question: quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles I opened my comment to you about your post this way; "I actually was kind enjoying your post", will you look at that a man actually saying he was actually enjoying your post but let's not stop there, how about checking out your; "where I didn't attack you at all", hmmm it seems you made this non-insult in that non-offensive post; "(here's a totally! new! concept!) take no for no", nope, no insult there. quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins You then throw a hideous insult at her, because your mind went to a place that non of the rest of us needed to. You won't apologise, because you're simply not man enough to do it. You then throw insults at me for pointing this out to you, you accuse me of other things I ask you to back up, but you can't, because you're full of crap. I don't need you to back any of it up BTW, I just asked you to because I know you can't [:D] Honestly, you post something like this and talk about others insults. And again it's your "mind" that keeps bringing it up. quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins One of your accusations is that I keep bringing up the subject, well no, YOU keep doing that with accusations, I'm just replying to your posts and defending myself against your nonsense. Well how about that, accusing you of bringing it up? It's not like you almost continually rant about it or anything. quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins Funny how you're allowed to answer every post directed at you, but what ... I'm not supposed to defend myself against the crap you keep spouting. Help yourself, defend yourself all you want, I'm not stopping you but it would be nice and a little less boring, if you came up with something new to say or at least reword it. quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins Focus is right, you do think you have to have the last word. I already explained to Focus 50 about "needing to have the last word" but okay, if someone addresses a post to me I respond, I thought that is the way a "discussion" is suppose to work. quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins You really do think you are right on this, but you are not. I'm not saying you're wrong about Paedophiles, but you are wrong about there being any extension to 'No means no' in the context that Clover said it in that post. Once again, listen closely, I was not talking about "no means no" and no matter how many times you say it, I was not talking about "no means no", I was talking about the "yes means yes" part, did you get that this time? The "yes means yes" part. quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins She's not the one that needs to do anything. We are not the ones that need to alter our way of thinking. Again, you and her, can think anything you want but when you start posting things you want everybody to take as Gospel, then you should ready for someone to point out the flaws in it and if it was me I would at least take a serious look at it to see if there was merit to what was said. quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins Throw at me the arm chair therapist thing like it's an insult, here's the deal though- I know enough about cars to know when the damn thing is broken and needs a mechanic. I don't hold any qualifications in mechanics. I am not a plumber, but I also know when my boiler is on the blink. I hold qualifications in dementia, Schizophrenia, and Mental health, so yeah sweetie, I can sit here and tell you you need therapy. Honestly, if you were taught that it was okay to hand out diagnoses with only a few posts on the internet to go by, I would go get my money back. And if you think your diagnosis is even ballpark, then if you are working in the field of psychology, you need to go get a job as a mechanic because you would be better at that. Seriously, you really are full of it lol We'd all find you less boring if just maybe you could change your tune too. You see, you're a raging hypocrite! You find me boring for pointing out that you're a liar, that you're NOT discussing anything at all, but actually all you do is twist what people say, lie, and then throw insults when you're caught out. You haven't come up with anything new to say, in fact the only thing you want is someone to agree with you. Anyone that doesn't gets abused by you. Anyone that points out your failings gets abused by you. What's the point of me rewording what I've said, you don't want to hear anything anyone has to say unless it validates what you think. It's the same with the fact that you keep insisting that my mind keeps fetching this subject up. No, you do because YOU have to have the last word, and because you went there FIRST when non of the rest of us did. Same as you had to twist my words to Bounty into something it wasn't too. If anything that sentence would be directed at YOU, because you're the only one with a mind twisted enough to go there. Now, as for this 'yes means yes' bullshit you keep banging on about. Again, YOU brought that up, not Clover. YOU made that an issue, no-one else. YOU brought that side into an adult discussion, but didn't keep it adult in context, but instead used it as a weapon against another member. YOU are at fault, no-one else. My mind is only responding to YOUR bullshit. The rest of the time I'm doing other stuff. If YOU hadn't done this, NO-ONE would be thinking about it. YOU DID THIS, but you're too weak to just admit you used a bullshit saying to insult someone that didn't deserve it. I don't need to keep putting that any other way, you're the only one not getting it. For the part in bold, grammar was not your friend there, so I'm taking a stab in the dark with that one. However, you may just want to practice what you appear to be trying to preach! You have posted a ton of crap in this thread. Including the fact that you accused Clover of insulting you in her first post, I quoted it and asked you to highlight the insults, but you can't. Merit? Seriously? You want to post about merit to me after you've accused me of the things you have, after you said what you did to Clover? HYPOCRITE! Oh, and sweetheart, if you think that I'm judging you based on the few posts you've put in here, you're so wrong. You talk complete bullshit.

Milesnmiles -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 10:07:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome It is clear, Milesnmiles that you hold some views that many other posters find objectionable. The fact that other people don't like what you say is of course okay and the very stuff of debate. Okay quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome You are however an irrepressible wind up merchant who endlessly obfuscates by nit-picking other people's posts, claiming that you have not said what you have either said or heavily implied, and by making irrelevant personal attacks only directed at provoking people into a similar response. You will of course recall that your difficult relationship with your fellow posters on these subjects started back in your first consent thread where you asked a question and the attacked everyone who tried to answer it. Of course you realize this is your subjective opinion and not necessarily what is happening. If I make a statement and someone points out how it is flawed and not just saying something like; "this is BS", I do not consider it an attack, I consider it an opportunity to rethink what has been said. quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome What I have just written would itself be an irrelevant personal attack were it not for the fact that your way of going about things in this and the recent consent threads has been actively used to draw attention away from your position on the subject, in which you have consistently attacked posters who have asserted a woman's right to not to be molested and to expect that when she says no it will be taken as no. By criticising those who have said that men need only listen, pay attention and take care to behave properly in accordance with what a woman tells them (or do nothing further if a woman says nothing) you are defending potentially abusive and criminal behaviour. First, I don't mind insults, I pretty much ignore them anyway but I appreciate that you bothered to explain the insult. That being said, yes I have, if you want, "attacked" posters but I have never "attacked" "a woman's right to not to be molested and to expect that when she says no it will be taken as no". Also I don't believe I have ever criticized "those who have said that men need only listen, pay attention and take care to behave properly in accordance with what a woman tells them", mainly because that is my opinion as well. quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome You will say that you have said nothing of the sort, partly because you haven't used the same words as me. Actually I just said; that I "have said nothing of the sort" but it is not because you used different words but because I speak from the concepts I hold and I do not hold the concepts that you seem to be accusing me of. quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome People have however called you out on your disrespectful and counter-productive attitudes towards women and your views on how men and women interact, which are idiosyncratic at best and seriously out of date and damaging at worst. I can't be responsible for people who want to read into what I say, what they want to see. quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome I find myself still having the views I posted way back in post 46. Great, hold any view you want but if you post it, you've got to realize that there may be people that disagree with you and will say so. Okay let's take another look at your post#46 quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome You do however continue to attack other people's positions in a more or less strident way whilst claiming that you don't actually hold a position yourself. I find interesting that I can use the word "aggressive" one time and nobody can leave it alone but yet you seem to feel it's okay to constantly portray my responses as attacks but anyway, I have never said that I don't hold a "position" on the subject at hand, because I do. quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome You then try to create some kind of moral high ground for yourself by claiming that you didn't actually say what you implied or almost said. Moral high ground? Really? In a Kink site can anybody really have a moral high ground? As for "claiming that you didn't actually say what you implied or almost said", is it really your contention that people should be held totally responsible for what they didn't say? quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome It's a great mechanism for creating accusation and counter-accusation which could be entertaining if you like that sort of thing. I don't know about you but I don't spend a lot of time "accusing" others but then for someone that has accused me of "attacking and being strident", I guess they might also consider asking people questions about what they have said, to be "accusations". quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome My position on these subjects is clear and unequivocal. Well, thanks for being honest about the fact that you are close minded and will not listen to others, at least on this subject. quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome No means no. Pursuing someone after they say no is tantamount to harassment. Women are harassed by men they say no to. Men are in a position to avoid such harassment merely by behaving properly and not assuming that pursuing is some kind of game women really like deep down but wont say out loud. Men are not in a difficult position here but many repeatedly put themselves in a difficult position. Okay, I agree with this as far as it goes but to be honest you would have to agree it is only okay for the middle ground but since we are on a kink site, I have to ask if have you spent any time reading the profiles of sub and slaves? I have and there are profiles here of Females (I don't spend a lot of time looking at male profiles) who seem to want to bypass no and allow men to do anything they want to them and I was even shocked to read one that said the she wouldn't date "whites" because they wouldn't rape her and now only dates "blacks" because they will. Now, my question to you is, do you think these sub and slaves, that feel this way, should be forced to obey your "no means no"? quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome You question these things over and over but try to side step criticism by claiming that you do not really hold the contrary position and are only asking questions. I only question over and over things that I don't get an answer for, does that mean I have a "contrary position"? I guess you can believe anything you want about me but that doesn't mean what you believe is correct. quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome It is an interesting rhetorical technique which attracts a very predictable response from people. I glad you find it interesting but that is not what I'm doing. If I have a question I ask it and if I don't get an answer I will usually ask again, simple as that. quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome Your outrage at the responses you get is clearly some kind of psychological pay off for you, but you are the only one who is actually surprised at it. Outrage? [sm=happy-smiley58.gif] I come here for entertainment and not much else and I find most of this mildly humorous. Although I do find that so many believe that insults are an adequate substitute for logic and reasoning a bit disturbing. But outrage? You got the wrong person. This is the end of comments on post#46 quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome Are you really surprised that thoughtful people react to you the way you do or is it just part of the fun for you? Thoughtful people? I'm ecstatic when thoughtful people post here but like I just said most of your "thoughtful" people here "believe that insults are an adequate substitute for logic and reasoning" and that is not very thoughtful. quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome By the way in the context of this thread, if you have any care for the object of your desires and for your own future, no really does mean no, and yes means yes only if someone is capable of consenting. Nothing has changed recently, only the fact that more women are speaking out about their treatment. Quite frankly, it is none of your concern about how I carry on my personal affairs of the heart. quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome I was brought up decades ago to treat women with respect and to understand the dangers of making assumptions about what women were thinking. Decades ago? Wow, that makes it sound like you may be old enough to be my granddaughter. quote: ORIGINAL: longwayhome Decent proper behaviour towards women, including not being any kind of aggressor, even if you are doing the chasing, is not a new concept. Once again why do you feel you have the right to decide how others should want to be treated? If a woman wants the man to be an "aggressor" what right do you have to tell her that she is wrong?

Milesnmiles -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 10:18:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 in so much as I said "I wasn't sure what you were saying", I have "no point" other than to share what I understand the rules to be. and im not picking sides in the discussion as to who's right or wrong. and no, the TOS rule I quoted clearly is written from the perspective of the website, not the users. if moderators are indeed removing posts that have kids in them, that's a function of their own sensitivity and not something explicitly stated. those actions cannot be directly tied to that TOS section. The whole of section five covers the topic. The TOS are the rules by which we have to adhere, now people can try and swing around those however they see fit, but let's face it, we're adults on a BDSM site. We're talking about adults, so why the hell would your mind even go there? This is not the general chit chat group where a general discussion on a whole saying was opened up for discussion. This is specifically the BDSM board where a question was asked about 'aggressive' men in the work place, and whether men should back off of women. So, purely for the sake of this topic, on this particular site, on this very specific board, it really should never have been questioned that 'no means no'. In fact, really, in any place at any time it shouldn't. The qualifications surrounding 'yes' are totally different ... well, that only needs qualifying to someone that doesn't have a correctly working brain. 5.2. WE HAVE A ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY FOR CHILD PORNOGRAPHY AND A ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY REGARDING PEDOPHILES, PEDERASTS OR ANY PEDOPHILIC, PEDERASTIC, OR SIMILAR RELATED ACTIVITY. This is the policy by which all photos on the site containing children are deleted. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why. This isn't facebook. When my photo was removed and I asked why, the Mod at the time quoted this section to me as i recall. It's a long time ago, but I wasn't here before 2007 and that's the last time the TOS was revised according to the top of the page. Needles It seems like I may not be the only one here that "has to have the last word" and honestly bounty44 has only been nice in letting us know what the rules actually are, so why in the world would you, in a post to him accuse him by saying; "why the hell would your mind even go there"? Is it because you think he's a man and so his mind must "go there"? And if you were not accusing him, the use of another word could have excluded him and you owe him an apology. Oh my god. It's generic! Again, YOUR reading comprehension fails YOU. I was not insulting Bounty, Bounty has not been a part of the discussion with me. Needles Once again the Sidestepper strikes, how about actually addressing the question put to you; "why in the world would you, in a post to him accuse him by saying; "why the hell would your mind even go there"? Is it because you think he's a man and so his mind must "go there"? And if you were not accusing him, the use of another word could have excluded him and you owe him an apology." Once again, please notice, it was a post to him not me and you said; your and that means you are addressing it to the person who you are posting to, that is kind of how the English language and posting works.

Milesnmiles -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 10:31:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins ... you used a bullshit saying to insult someone that didn't deserve it. ... Oh wow, after sifting through all the, shall we say, stuff in your post, I came across this and I just had to ask; do you really consider "yes means yes and no means no" to be a "bullshit saying"?

Milesnmiles -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 10:43:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins ... Oh, and sweetheart, if you think that I'm judging you based on the few posts you've put in here, you're so wrong. ... Oh and I saw this and thought it was so funny I just had to comment on it. If I am "so wrong", perhaps you would be so kind as to tell me where you found anything else but my posts to go on? I mean I don't think you've even taken the time to look at my profile.

needlesandpins -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 10:56:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 in so much as I said "I wasn't sure what you were saying", I have "no point" other than to share what I understand the rules to be. and im not picking sides in the discussion as to who's right or wrong. and no, the TOS rule I quoted clearly is written from the perspective of the website, not the users. if moderators are indeed removing posts that have kids in them, that's a function of their own sensitivity and not something explicitly stated. those actions cannot be directly tied to that TOS section. The whole of section five covers the topic. The TOS are the rules by which we have to adhere, now people can try and swing around those however they see fit, but let's face it, we're adults on a BDSM site. We're talking about adults, so why the hell would your mind even go there? This is not the general chit chat group where a general discussion on a whole saying was opened up for discussion. This is specifically the BDSM board where a question was asked about 'aggressive' men in the work place, and whether men should back off of women. So, purely for the sake of this topic, on this particular site, on this very specific board, it really should never have been questioned that 'no means no'. In fact, really, in any place at any time it shouldn't. The qualifications surrounding 'yes' are totally different ... well, that only needs qualifying to someone that doesn't have a correctly working brain. 5.2. WE HAVE A ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY FOR CHILD PORNOGRAPHY AND A ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY REGARDING PEDOPHILES, PEDERASTS OR ANY PEDOPHILIC, PEDERASTIC, OR SIMILAR RELATED ACTIVITY. This is the policy by which all photos on the site containing children are deleted. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why. This isn't facebook. When my photo was removed and I asked why, the Mod at the time quoted this section to me as i recall. It's a long time ago, but I wasn't here before 2007 and that's the last time the TOS was revised according to the top of the page. Needles It seems like I may not be the only one here that "has to have the last word" and honestly bounty44 has only been nice in letting us know what the rules actually are, so why in the world would you, in a post to him accuse him by saying; "why the hell would your mind even go there"? Is it because you think he's a man and so his mind must "go there"? And if you were not accusing him, the use of another word could have excluded him and you owe him an apology. Oh my god. It's generic! Again, YOUR reading comprehension fails YOU. I was not insulting Bounty, Bounty has not been a part of the discussion with me. Needles Once again the Sidestepper strikes, how about actually addressing the question put to you; "why in the world would you, in a post to him accuse him by saying; "why the hell would your mind even go there"? Is it because you think he's a man and so his mind must "go there"? And if you were not accusing him, the use of another word could have excluded him and you owe him an apology." Once again, please notice, it was a post to him not me and you said; your and that means you are addressing it to the person who you are posting to, that is kind of how the English language and posting works. No, YOUR, this means you personally in this instance, reading comprehension fails YOU personally. You see, yes, I was replying to Bounty, however, Bounty has NOT been a part of this conversation with ME, or as far as I know, anyone else in here, therefore, the YOUR the YOU refer to can not possibly be aimed at him, because he's had no part in the conversation. IT'S GENERIC! I didn't side step YOUR question, I already answered it above in exactly the same way as I just have, but yet again you fail miserably to grasp the concept that not everyone is as twisted as you, and not everyone is accusing people the way you are. I don't owe Bounty an apology, because the comment wasn't aimed at him personally. YOU HAVE DONE THAT! YOU APOLOGISE! Needles

needlesandpins -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 11:04:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins ... Oh, and sweetheart, if you think that I'm judging you based on the few posts you've put in here, you're so wrong. ... Oh and I saw this and thought it was so funny I just had to comment on it. If I am "so wrong", perhaps you would be so kind as to tell me where you found anything else but my posts to go on? I mean I don't think you've even taken the time to look at my profile. Again, please learn to READ. You are such hard work. Seriously, I've worked with the learning disabled that have better reading comprehension that you do. You have made 1232 posts, thus, I'm not just judging you the the few posts MADE IN THIS ONE PARTICULAR THREAD. Sigh I don't need to look at your profile to judge you based on your posting history, it's all in these forums for anyone to read. Now, that's not to say that I wouldn't reserve judgement for in case we were even to meet in person, but that's exceptionally unlikely. When you can provide all the evidence to back up your lies and claims against me, only then do you get to keep throwing your side stepping comment at me. Until them you're just a raging hypocrite, and a liar. Needles

Milesnmiles -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 11:15:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins ... I don't owe Bounty an apology, because the comment wasn't aimed at him personally. YOU HAVE DONE THAT! YOU APOLOGISE! Needles Well I guess we should thankful for your honesty in admitting you don't care who your rage, anger and hatred hits. Honestly, what would it hurt to apologize to someone you may have accidentally besmirched? Well, then I guess should apologize to everyone for making you who you are, yep, your rage, anger and hatred is all my fault and you were such a kind, loving and giving a person before. [sm=happy-smiley58.gif] Sorry I couldn't stifle it any more.

WhoreMods -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 11:33:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles Honestly, what would it hurt to apologize to someone you may have accidentally besmirched? When you start doing so yourself, then you can give other people shit about that with a clear conscience.

Milesnmiles -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 11:35:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins ... Oh, and sweetheart, if you think that I'm judging you based on the few posts you've put in here, you're so wrong. ... Oh and I saw this and thought it was so funny I just had to comment on it. If I am "so wrong", perhaps you would be so kind as to tell me where you found anything else but my posts to go on? I mean I don't think you've even taken the time to look at my profile. Again, please learn to READ. You are such hard work. Seriously, I've worked with the learning disabled that have better reading comprehension that you do. You have made 1232 posts, thus, I'm not just judging you the the few posts MADE IN THIS ONE PARTICULAR THREAD. Sigh I don't need to look at your profile to judge you based on your posting history, it's all in these forums for anyone to read. Now, that's not to say that I wouldn't reserve judgement for in case we were even to meet in person, but that's exceptionally unlikely. When you can provide all the evidence to back up your lies and claims against me, only then do you get to keep throwing your side stepping comment at me. Until them you're just a raging hypocrite, and a liar. Needles Crimeinitaly, I don't believe I said anything about "MADE IN THIS ONE PARTICULAR THREAD", perhaps you can point that out to me. As for the 1232 posts next to my whole life, they seem to be very few indeed and even if you had taken the time to read them all, which I seriously doubt, you suddenly think you know all about me? Which witch doctor school did you go to anyway?

needlesandpins -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 11:35:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins ... I don't owe Bounty an apology, because the comment wasn't aimed at him personally. YOU HAVE DONE THAT! YOU APOLOGISE! Needles Well I guess we should thankful for your honesty in admitting you don't care who your rage, anger and hatred hits. Honestly, what would it hurt to apologize to someone you may have accidentally besmirched? Well, then I guess should apologize to everyone for making you who you are, yep, your rage, anger and hatred is all my fault and you were such a kind, loving and giving a person before. [sm=happy-smiley58.gif] Sorry I couldn't stifle it any more. Again, your raging HYPOCRITE! If Bounty came to me and thought that I had in some way insulted him, then I would apologise to him, but I'm not going to do because YOU CAN'T FRIGGIN READ! You have the damn nerve to come out with this crap when you have not apologised to me for the lies you've pulled, and accusing me of being on the side of paedophiles, and you refuse point blank to refuse to Clover for calling her a paedophile apologist. You need to pull your head out of your arse to take a breath of fresh air. That way your brain may actually be able to engage in reasonable thought. You know what, I don't much care what you think of my attitude towards you. Hate is a mighty big thing, and there isn't a single person that I hate. Not even my ex, and out of all the people I know he'd be the one that people would think had earned it the most. I don't even hate the man that abused me, and that isn't excusing what he's done, that's taking away his power. You see, there isn't a single person on this planet worthy of the energy it takes to hate them. Rage? lol You have absolutely no idea what my rage is, but you haven't seen it at all [:D] The difference between you and I, I can admit when I'm wrong, and I do apologise, but you are too weak to do any of it. Needles

Milesnmiles -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 11:47:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles Honestly, what would it hurt to apologize to someone you may have accidentally besmirched? When you start doing so yourself, then you can give other people shit about that with a clear conscience. Hi froggy, Yeah right, that makes a lot of sense. Hey world nobody apologize, no matter what, until Milesnmiles makes an apology. Froggy, if you actually kept up with what was being said in the thread, rather just looking for some place to jump in and try to insult me with your childish inane insults, perhaps you would have seen that I have already, in this very thread, made an apology, maybe not the one you want to see but I tend to apologize on a fairly regular basis.

needlesandpins -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 11:51:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins ... Oh, and sweetheart, if you think that I'm judging you based on the few posts you've put in here, you're so wrong. ... Oh and I saw this and thought it was so funny I just had to comment on it. If I am "so wrong", perhaps you would be so kind as to tell me where you found anything else but my posts to go on? I mean I don't think you've even taken the time to look at my profile. Again, please learn to READ. You are such hard work. Seriously, I've worked with the learning disabled that have better reading comprehension that you do. You have made 1232 posts, thus, I'm not just judging you the the few posts MADE IN THIS ONE PARTICULAR THREAD. Sigh I don't need to look at your profile to judge you based on your posting history, it's all in these forums for anyone to read. Now, that's not to say that I wouldn't reserve judgement for in case we were even to meet in person, but that's exceptionally unlikely. When you can provide all the evidence to back up your lies and claims against me, only then do you get to keep throwing your side stepping comment at me. Until them you're just a raging hypocrite, and a liar. Needles Crimeinitaly, I don't believe I said anything about "MADE IN THIS ONE PARTICULAR THREAD", perhaps you can point that out to me. As for the 1232 posts next to my whole life, they seem to be very few indeed and even if you had taken the time to read them all, which I seriously doubt, you suddenly think you know all about me? Which witch doctor school did you go to anyway? Wow, again, you are such hard work, mostly because it would appear you can't remember what you've written and equate it in to following posts. In your post 158 you claimed I was judging you from, and I quote 'Just a few posts'. So ya see, YOU didn't say anything directly about one particular thread, but a few posts kinda indicates that, and I'm stressing certain things because I want them to sink in for you, but you insist on taking things out of context, and twisting them, as well as lying to suit your own agenda. I'm not judging you from just a few posts. Baring in mind that I've never met Donald Trump, or read nearly as much stuff from him as I have from you, and yet I still know that guy is a liar, cheat, and tapped out of his head. You see, some of us are just that good at this people thing. Some of us have learned to be, because for some of us it literally saved our lives. But please, do go on twisting everything I say, and trying to make me look bad because you are too weak to admit you were wrong for throwing your insults and lies right from the start. You're no Dom. Needles

LadyPact -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 12:05:29 PM)
quote: I come here for entertainment and not much else and I find most of this mildly humorous Ah, so you're trolling. I get it now.

Milesnmiles -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 12:28:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins ... I don't owe Bounty an apology, because the comment wasn't aimed at him personally. YOU HAVE DONE THAT! YOU APOLOGISE! Needles Well I guess we should thankful for your honesty in admitting you don't care who your rage, anger and hatred hits. Honestly, what would it hurt to apologize to someone you may have accidentally besmirched? Well, then I guess should apologize to everyone for making you who you are, yep, your rage, anger and hatred is all my fault and you were such a kind, loving and giving a person before. [sm=happy-smiley58.gif] Sorry I couldn't stifle it any more. Again, your raging HYPOCRITE! If Bounty came to me and thought that I had in some way insulted him, then I would apologise to him, but I'm not going to do because YOU CAN'T FRIGGIN READ! You have the damn nerve to come out with this crap when you have not apologised to me for the lies you've pulled, and accusing me of being on the side of paedophiles, and you refuse point blank to refuse to Clover for calling her a paedophile apologist. You need to pull your head out of your arse to take a breath of fresh air. That way your brain may actually be able to engage in reasonable thought. You know what, I don't much care what you think of my attitude towards you. Hate is a mighty big thing, and there isn't a single person that I hate. Not even my ex, and out of all the people I know he'd be the one that people would think had earned it the most. I don't even hate the man that abused me, and that isn't excusing what he's done, that's taking away his power. You see, there isn't a single person on this planet worthy of the energy it takes to hate them. Rage? lol You have absolutely no idea what my rage is, but you haven't seen it at all [:D] The difference between you and I, I can admit when I'm wrong, and I do apologise, but you are too weak to do any of it. Needles Yeah, right, wait for bounty44 to beg you for an apology for what you've done, yep, that's the way it's done alright. Yeah, right, apologize to you for what? Do you really think you are some innocent bystander that I accidentally insulted? Quite frankly, you have called me almost every vindictive thing you could come up with and in contrast I have been quite civil in speaking to you and now you want an apology, don't hold your breath. As for this; "The difference between you and I, I can admit when I'm wrong, and I do apologize, but you are too weak to do any of it.", as I pointed out to Froggy, I have already made at least one apology in this very thread. For example: quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles post#151 ... I apologize if I somehow I missed someone earlier pointing out that they thought it was an incorrect word choice ... There you go, so much for being too weak to apologize and not being able to do so. It wasn't a personal best apology but an apology none the less. Now Sidesteppe perhaps you would like to point out all the times you intimated you were wrong and apologized, maybe not all, just one will do. Or even better why don't you just give bounty44 the apology he deserves? Or is that more common decency than you are able to muster? PS I also could care less what your attitude is toward me is, I just thought you might want to consider how it might be the cause of your inability to think rationally.

Milesnmiles -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 12:42:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact quote: I come here for entertainment and not much else and I find most of this mildly humorous Ah, so you're trolling. I get it now. Trolling? Here's a definition I found: "Someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.” If you think this is what I'm doing, then okay, in your mind I'm a Troll but in my mind I'm not here to "post inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages" with the "primary intent" to "provoke" or "disrupt normal on-topic discussion". Will say that I have a bad habit of allowing others to lead me away from the topic at hand but that is not my intent.

BitaTruble -> RE: Agressive Males? (12/9/2017 1:10:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles I tend to apologize on a fairly regular basis. Apologies seem best served rare. Pehaps a bit more thought would be helpful? I hope you will allow this to be a teaching moment. Telling me to “try to get on board” when you changed trains and pulled in an outside thread from which to quote was a gaslight. A simple link to that quote and I would not have to “try to get on board”. I would have had a tool to succeed and instead I felt belittled and dumb because I could not find that quote anywhere even after reading three times through the thread. It wasted my time and given how quickly my eyes give out, it was also a waste of a limited resource which could have been spent in more productive fashion than the seeking of phantoms. For those reasons, I do feel an apology is appropriate.

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