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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/8/2017 7:36:23 AM   
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Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995

Great Seal of the United States

Long title An act to provide for the relocation of the United States Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, and for other purposes.

Acronyms (colloquial) JEA

Enacted by the 104th United States Congress

Effective November 8, 1995.

Introduced in the Senate as S. 1322 by Bob Dole (R-KS) on October 13, 1995

Committee consideration by Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, and House Committee on International Relations
Passed the Senate on October 24, 1995 (93–5

Roll call vote 496, via Senate.gov)

Passed the House on October 24, 1995 (374–37

Roll call vote 734, via Clerk.House.gov)

Left unsigned by President Bill Clinton and became law on November 8, 1995

The Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995[1] is a public law of the United States passed by the 104th Congress on October 23, 1995. It was passed for the purposes of initiating and funding the relocation of the Embassy of the United States in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, no later than May 31, 1999, and attempted to withhold 50 percent of the funds appropriated to the State Department specifically for "Acquisition and Maintenance of Buildings Abroad" as allocated in fiscal year 1999 until the United States Embassy in Jerusalem had officially opened.[2] The act also called for Jerusalem to remain an undivided city and for it to be recognized as the capital of the State of Israel. Israel's declared capital is Jerusalem, but this is not internationally recognized, pending final status talks in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict. The proposed law was adopted by the Senate (93–5),[3] and the House (374–37).[4]

Despite passage, the law remained unimplemented by Presidents Clinton, Bush, and Obama,[5] who viewed it as a Congressional infringement on the executive branch's constitutional authority over foreign policy; they consistently claimed the presidential waiver on national security interests. President Donald Trump signed the waiver in June 2017 before announcing the recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital on December 6, 2017, and beginning the relocation of the embassy.[6][7]

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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/8/2017 10:53:11 AM   
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Africa is the way it is today because it was conquered and exploited by Europeans, Greta.

You know that is not true. Europeans has conquered everywhere else too.

You see alot of French influence in Vietnam, Spanish influence in Philippines. I obviously live in a country with loads of British influence.

Like eventually when the European leaves, they progress.


Just look at all of this civilization:

https://study.com/academy/lesson/history-of-the-belgian-congo-imperialism-genocide-atrocities.html

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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/8/2017 12:30:53 PM   
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Do we really need to make them any angrier?



If they get angrier, will they start lobbing rockets into Israel?

Will they start financing terrorist attacks against the US and Israel?

Will they conduct frequent suicide bombings in street markets?

I would hope their ultimate response would be to hold their collective breath until they turn blue.

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I was thinking along those lines, you said it!
I am thinking, they are going to do "something".


They are going to do something either way. It's nothing new. Personally I think this is one of the few things the clown has gotten right.

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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/8/2017 2:54:09 PM   
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the short answer is, if its hacking off the comrades so much, its probably a good thing.


You've not bothered to read the thread or the international press.

It is hacking everyone off, including all the governments of Europe, left or right.

The only exceptions are Trump's closest political allies and the Israeli government.


I suspect youre overstating the case, especially in your last line.

regardless, if Israel likes it, and the comrades here oppose it (which they unilaterally seem to do), then again, im going to guess its a good idea.

and kinda what Michael pointed out below your post, above this one, it matters little or at least less what the European governments thinks and more what goes on between the usa and Israel.

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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/8/2017 6:39:44 PM   
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the short answer is, if its hacking off the comrades so much, its probably a good thing.


You've not bothered to read the thread or the international press.

It is hacking everyone off, including all the governments of Europe, left or right.

The only exceptions are Trump's closest political allies and the Israeli government.


I suspect youre overstating the case, especially in your last line.

regardless, if Israel likes it, and the comrades here oppose it (which they unilaterally seem to do), then again, im going to guess its a good idea.

and kinda what Michael pointed out below your post, above this one, it matters little or at least less what the European governments thinks and more what goes on between the usa and Israel.



The point is that it's not just "the comrades" who think it is a bad idea.

It's only a left/right issue in the US as far as I can work out, and the condemnation of Trump's move has been roundly criticised around the world.

Making a decisive move is not always wise whatever you believe about the moral rights and wrongs of the issue.

Pissing almost everybody off is not the sign of a wise president, it is a sign of ineptitude, no matter how much you like it when Trump stirs the pot.

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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/8/2017 7:40:56 PM   
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Israel needs to put out shitloads of banners all over their wall so that Palestine can see the entire Q5.20 to Q5.26 verse reminding the Muslims that Allah told Jews to TAKE Palestine! They are only doing what their Allah wants them to do.

And tell the Muslims to stop disobeying their religion!

But I guess it would be heresy for jews to put up banners quoting the Quran, but they should. That is the solution.

And just by virtue of that, I think there should be no argument that Palestine belongs to the Jews.

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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/9/2017 12:18:57 AM   
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The point is that it's not just "the comrades" who think it is a bad idea.

It's only a left/right issue in the US as far as I can work out, and the condemnation of Trump's move has been roundly criticised around the world.

Making a decisive move is not always wise whatever you believe about the moral rights and wrongs of the issue.

Pissing almost everybody off is not the sign of a wise president, it is a sign of ineptitude, no matter how much you like it when Trump stirs the pot.


Correction -

It's only a left/right issue in the US as far as I can work out, and the condemnation of Trump's move has been roundly criticised around the world.

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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/9/2017 10:36:06 AM   
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The point is that it's not just "the comrades" who think it is a bad idea.

It's only a left/right issue in the US as far as I can work out, and the condemnation of Trump's move has been roundly criticised around the world.

Making a decisive move is not always wise whatever you believe about the moral rights and wrongs of the issue.

Pissing almost everybody off is not the sign of a wise president, it is a sign of ineptitude, no matter how much you like it when Trump stirs the pot.


Correction -

It's only a left/right issue in the US as far as I can work out, and the condemnation of Trump's move has been roundly criticised around the world.


The consensus of the usual suspects got us here though, in regard to Middle East peace

Fuck them

(Have you heard, now that Obama is gone, ISIS has been soundly defeated in Iraq?)


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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/9/2017 10:39:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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Correction -

It's only a left/right issue in the US as far as I can work out, and the condemnation of Trump's move has been roundly criticised around the world.


The consensus of the usual suspects got us here though, in regard to Middle East peace

Fuck them



As a damned-near isolationist, whether or not the rest of the world agrees with something we do, matters about as much to me as the approval of the extremist Muslim Jihadis.

If something is in our best interests, that's what we should do.

I will accede to: Why should it matter to ... say ... France if we recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital (Appeasement of the Jihadis aside)?



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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/9/2017 10:44:12 AM   
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Correction -

It's only a left/right issue in the US as far as I can work out, and the condemnation of Trump's move has been roundly criticised around the world.


The consensus of the usual suspects got us here though, in regard to Middle East peace

Fuck them



As a damned-near isolationist, whether or not the rest of the world agrees with something we do, matters about as much to me as the approval of the extremist Muslim Jihadis.



Michael


Those people all hate us, they make that clear. They loved groveling Obama though (except for the Muslims, who even hate ass-lickers like him)

Again - fuck them

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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/9/2017 10:51:52 AM   
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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/10/2017 3:33:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Throwing a burning match into an open powder keg is not a question of right or wrong, or of "leading by doing."

At least in politics as opposed to a Bugs Bunny cartoon.


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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/10/2017 4:20:14 PM   
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Naa, it was just they get world wide press to photograph them doing it after an official mention of a U.S. action nearby to them.

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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/10/2017 7:56:59 PM   
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Throwing a burning match into an open powder keg is not a question of right or wrong, or of "leading by doing."

At least in politics as opposed to a Bugs Bunny cartoon.




Open powder keg = Muslims (of course). Burning match = refusing to bow to their fanatical demands

Keep them out.

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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/11/2017 2:38:52 AM   
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Did the Palestinians need an excuse to burn U.S. flags?
Naa, it was just they get world wide press to photograph them doing it after an official mention of a U.S. action nearby to them.



Did the Palestinians get a trigger to burn US flags?

Yes they did. Btw the Israeli and Palestinian claims of Jerusalem as capital are competing in case you did not know yet. Of course flag burning is a visual signal focused on you over there but it only works the way it does because of flag fetishism.

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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/11/2017 7:46:34 PM   
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Video - Four U.S. Presidents recognizing Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel: https://www.facebook.com/DanScavino/videos/1981778062037920/

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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/11/2017 11:16:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you believe that it is the prerogative of the US to decide local arrangements in faraway Muslim lands, you might like to reconsider next time your country is targetted by terrorists.

It is precisely because of this type of arrogance that the US places itself in the firing line, as your friends have been counselling you for decades and just about every captured terrorist has confirmed.

Alternatively if you believe in the right of people residing in an area to decide their own arrangements, then you will regret Trump's latest diplomatic howler for the dangerous incendiary faux pas it is.

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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/12/2017 4:48:36 AM   
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If you believe that it is the prerogative of the US to decide local arrangements in faraway Muslim lands, you might like to reconsider next time your country is targetted by terrorists.

It is precisely because of this type of arrogance that the US places itself in the firing line, as your friends have been counselling you for decades and just about every captured terrorist has confirmed.

Alternatively if you believe in the right of people residing in an area to decide their own arrangements, then you will regret Trump's latest diplomatic howler for the dangerous incendiary faux pas it is.

Now, lookee here, Missy. What is happening in Palestine is no different than what happened in Australia or North America at the ascension of the white race. Now, I don't especially like me some Jews but they is better than dirty, unwashed A-rabs, ain't they? You betcha they are (as long as they don't own too many banks) So, how is this any different in the long arc of history than Australia and North America back when???

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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/12/2017 4:55:20 AM   
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given that there is always good to be criticism of what presidents or countries do, I don't think the criteria for doing something or not doing something is one of "less people hacked off vs more peopled hacked off" but rather one of leading by doing what one thinks is right regardless of those criticisms.

But suppose what "one thinks is right" for your family ain't what your neighbors think is right and they just want you to get the fuck outta their neighborhood?

And BTW, was there a vote in the villages and farms of Palestine? Vietnam? Iraq? Iran? Egypt? before the intrusive foreigners came upon the land? When does democracy begin? Is it only after the shooting stops?

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RE: Furious Palestinians burn American flags - 12/12/2017 9:24:29 AM   
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If you believe that it is the prerogative of the US to decide local arrangements in faraway Muslim lands, you might like to reconsider next time your country is targetted by terrorists.

It is precisely because of this type of arrogance that the US places itself in the firing line, as your friends have been counselling you for decades and just about every captured terrorist has confirmed.

Alternatively if you believe in the right of people residing in an area to decide their own arrangements, then you will regret Trump's latest diplomatic howler for the dangerous incendiary faux pas it is.


Nice try but Muslims have been slaughtering everyone in their path for a thousand years, no excuses needed



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