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mistoferin -> RE: chronic pain discovery (8/1/2006 8:48:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Fast non medical but very invasive method to be rid of hemroids is to insert a piece of suitable cheese uo the Kyber Pass and squat over a mouse hole..... No medical expences either for the opperation but you may get a Vet bill for the treatment of the mouse.... 


IB....it is late here on this side of the pond...and nearly my bedtime. I don't think sleep will come easily to me tonight...and once I get there I will surely be awakened by the visions of mice with their gnawing teeth. And to think I really kind of liked the little creatures up til this moment. Some nights I REALLY hate sleeping alone.




Termyn8or -> RE: chronic pain discovery (8/1/2006 11:40:25 PM)

Mist;

If I were sleeping with you, I can't honestly say that I can guarantee the security of your orifices.

IB;

You are truly derainged, nice to have to here.

FnF;

The first thing about the kerosene cure is to get off of everything else. Keep feet as dry as possible. NEVER use soap or anything like it on feet. When you get outside in the dirt and some is caked on, RUB HARD, use no soap. This stabilizes more than just Ph. NEVER wear anything on your feet, even sandals without highly absorbent socks. Once or twice a day wipe down with a rag soaked with kerosene, also, you can reuse it, keep it in a coffee can. You clean with water as needed. Once a day with the kerosene should be enough after you gotten your body chemistry under control, but in the beginning it may take more. You may want to wean yourself down to two or three times a wek.

All;

Since we seem to be talking about cronic pain, mine is ribs. I broke them really good awhile back and they will never heal right. There is not a damthing they can do either, ther is no way to place a cast or anything in there without things being done I don't want done. Nowadays rib breakage is treated with pain killers only, they don't even tape you up anymore, and after reading what I've read I think I agree. They tout the pain killers as enabling the sufferer to breathe more deeply, which lessens the chance of pnuemonia, a frequent side effect of the problem with the ribs.

And now since roids were mentioned, yup, got them too, but they are manageable at this time.

Do I shun pain killers because of masochism ? Hell no. I know when I screw up a rib now that if I move a certain way the pain increases. This is my body telling me not to do it. I would be a fool not to listen.

I get neckaches because of a bullet in there, but I do not get headaches but extremely rarely. I think pahunky will agree, some people are going through ALOT more. I just say it is not for me. I guess I was lucky to get to 45 without any really bad problems. Actually the ribs can get pretty bad, but I have not broken down yet and used real drugs, I mean like pills.

Anyway, to all who have not been so lucky, best of luck. In fact if I got hit by a speeding bus or something you can have the rest of mine, oh wait that's not, oh, yes it is, wait no..........

Now you got me all confused.

T




LadyEllen -> RE: chronic pain discovery (8/2/2006 7:31:51 AM)

Hi All

Well, I have had ankylosing spondylitis (AS) for the last twenty years now. Its a very painful form of arthritis where all the cartilage between the spinal vertebrae from top to bottom are gradually turned to bone, leaving the sufferer in the worst cases with a permanent forward stoop, severely reduced movement, and still in pain. It also spreads through the ribs, causing pain in breathing, and the hips and shoulders, further inhibiting movement. There is no cure so treatment consists of anti-inflammatories along with exercises to maintain as much movement as possible. When the pain becomes too much, I use dihydrocodeine painkillers, which are addictive and on which one becomes reliant - unless one likes withdrawal (imagine the worst hangover you ever had, plus the worst flu you ever had and multiply by two!).

The thing about pain is that it is the body's warning system that something is injuring it. "Good pain" alerts us to injury so we can do something to solve it. Chronic pain such as I have though is useless - there is nothing I can do to prevent or solve the injury - it is purely pain, 24/7 for extended periods. I make no apology for using whatever drugs I need therefore, to lessen the pain and to enable me to live a normal life. Without them, I'd likely have committed suicide as a means of escape from it by now.

I'm lucky in that my GP prescribes me what I need, and what I'm prescribed mainly keeps it under control aside from the odd flare-up when I turn from the wicked queen in Snow White into the aged and bent crone alter ego she uses to give Snow White the poisoned apple!

However, there is now a great reluctance in the UK on the part of GPs to prescribe what is needed, following the case of Dr Harold Shipman - a GP who killed hundreds of his patients with morphine. The result of that has been that GPs are now monitored as to what they are prescribing. The needs of the law are more important than the needs of the patient, basically, in the same way as they are when it comes to really serious pain such as in terminal cancer - the resources are there for people to die without pain and in dignity, but thousands die in agony over extended periods all the time, for fear of accusations of euthanasia and a prison sentence for murder.

If only these politicians and lawmakers knew what serious, long term pain is. I guess the problem is though, that anyone suffering like that is presumed written off from the start so there's no need to listen to them? Factor in that many such sufferers are aged and thus lack much influence in our society, and that being in pain and on painkillers, sufferers are assumed to be "deranged" by their side-effects and so cannot be trusted to give true testimony (and "hopefully" will die soon too), sufferers have little chance to make a case.

And then, and then - we have certain church influences ensconced unelected in our legislature, who insist that adequate palliative care and euthanasia are playing god. Regardlesss of sufferers' wishes, these people deny the right to dignity in a way that suggests that pain is somehow spiritually valuable. If such is the case, then I must be a saint! Equally I would be more than happy to assist any such bishop in coming closer to his god by imparting such pain to him that such proximity might be achieved! I do note however, the lack of self flagellation employed in the church these days...........

Chronic pain is useless. It is the job of the GP to make life liveable as far as possible with it. It is the job of the church (if it does have one) to assist in its relief by serving sufferers, not preaching platitudes to them. It is the job of politicians and lawmakers to enable both through realistic appraisal and treatment of the subject - one rogue GP should not mean that sufferers are left with inadequate relief, and outdated attitudes inherited from a foreign culture should not mean that sufferers and GPs are forbidden to end it all in the right circumstances.

E




SirKenin -> RE: chronic pain discovery (8/2/2006 7:41:29 AM)

I do not know what you guys are talking about.  Pain killers rock.  MMMMMM.   Demerol.  *drool*

lol

(Ok, I got pretty high on Demerol in the hospital.  It was.. umm... interesting)




IronBear -> RE: chronic pain discovery (8/2/2006 7:45:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

I do not know what you guys are talking about.  Pain killers rock.  MMMMMM.   Demerol.  *drool*

lol

(Ok, I got pretty high on Demerol in the hospital.  It was.. umm... interesting)


And my old lad, just how is the back now? I seem to remember you were going through livinh hell at one stage.. Hope that it is recovering or at least you have a lot less pain..

Regards






mistoferin -> RE: chronic pain discovery (8/2/2006 7:55:35 AM)

IB....I went to bed last night thinking of your mice post. Right after I read it I had a conversation with a girlfriend of mine about it. She is raising raccoons. Somehow it all got twisted in my head and I woke up in the middle of the night running away from giant Australian raccoons with HUGE teeth.

Just wanted to let you know I was thinking about you in bed...lol. Okay....so maybe Dammit IB wasn't exactly what you would have liked me to be thinking..........




SirKenin -> RE: chronic pain discovery (8/2/2006 7:57:09 AM)

Thank you for asking.  Everything has been improving.  I am still having stomach problems, I am still at home most of the time, a few battles left to fight as well.  But yes, everything else is improving.  Even My wife and I are improving in our relationship.  We are now back up to dating exclusively, giving it a serious chance and effort to see where it goes and being faithful to each other.  We are getting along very well and the affection and feelings seem to be returning.  She is back to work.  The financial misery continues, but it is only a matter of time.

I pray about it all the time, usually a couple of times a day, and I see prayers answered regularly in miraculous ways, often in ways I never would have even thought of.  I am extremely grateful.  I have very high hopes for the future.  [:)]




IronBear -> RE: chronic pain discovery (8/2/2006 8:01:08 AM)

Ermmm lass we don't have racoons here but we have small rock wallabys and of course there are always wombats (they eat, roots, shoots and leaves... ~ Aussie joke)




mistoferin -> RE: chronic pain discovery (8/2/2006 8:06:01 AM)

LOL...well these were definitely Australian raccoons....I could tell by their accents. Besides...they were "Big&Hairy"...that's an Australian trait too, is it not? [;)] Whoever said dreams have to make sense????




SirKenin -> RE: chronic pain discovery (8/2/2006 8:23:56 AM)

Our raccoons knock over My garbage, strew it all over the place and say "Thanks, eh?"




IronBear -> RE: chronic pain discovery (8/2/2006 8:42:18 AM)

If you find cans of iced Fosters \then they are Aussie Raccoons




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