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darkinshadows -> RE: what if... (8/3/2006 12:30:31 PM)
repeats herself Asking for release isn't necessary. He/She has already broken the 'contract' by laying uncontrolled hands upon you. You're free to walk no matter what. This is if the dominant laid uncontrolled hands. Leaving because of other reasons depends entirely on the reason and your question is too broad to respond. If the dominant does something that was never agreed upon in the first place, the whatever 'contract' is null and void anyway. If it is just because the person/submissive/slave wants release - thats a personal issue and not really up for discussion between other people, it is between the people in the relationship. Peace and Rapture

juliaoceania -> RE: what if... (8/5/2006 7:36:22 AM)
I view releasing as a closure mechanism for both submissive and dominant. In order to move on to a new dominant it is necessary to remove the voice of the old dominant from one's psyche. It most likely works both ways, in order for the dominant to mentally give up control it is necessary to release the submissive and to make that final ending. To not offer release to a submissive that requests it is selfish in my view, and not honorable. This is my opinion after suffering this pain. A submissive can release herself, which is something that I did after not speaking for three months, but he refused to release me even though I desperately felt the need for closure of what it was we had shared. Submissives give much to their dominants (at least the good ones) and to not release them and give their power back is a cruel way to end things. It is the same for vanilla in many ways, people need closure, and all too often we do not get it. Not to give it to someone is just mean spirited and unnecessary.

lilninotchka -> RE: what if... (8/6/2006 1:04:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth quote: ORIGINAL: mastersayed ...anyways my question is what if a slave asks for release (due to whatever reason) and her master refuses? whould she just give up since shes a slave or would she say "screw you asshole" and leave?... at present, this slave can't even bring herself to tempt the fates by even imagining a scenario so heinous that it would distort her perception of self to the point that she COULD beg for release...let alone what would happen next. Allow it to save you the trouble of contemplating - it would so NOT be pretty. Not the asking, nor what would come next. To answer the question - no matter how seriously you take who you are or what you do, there comes a time when just going is the best option. Committment demands that release be sought, but if it is not granted it becomes an entirely different situation. Depending on why release was sought to begin with, it becomes a queston of whether you can live in that void of no release. In its recent situation, there was simply no contact at all, no answer to any queston throught any means of communication. At a time like that, ownership needs to be taken back. Taking ownership back sounds like such an easy thing, but it is not. Just persoinal perspective and most definitely not in the majority here.

Steelriven -> RE: what if... (8/6/2006 8:59:35 AM)
For me if something goes wrong in the relationship then I can't possibly be submissive, until the problem is worked out. My last realtionship ended because in our relationship he refused to compromise, refused to listen, and threw a temper tantrum anytime he didn't get his way. He blamed me for everything that went wrong. He became very co-dependant. This was no longer a Dom/Sub relationship. I eventually brought myself out of denial and realized there was no way to repair the relationship. At one point I suggested a seperation. He wasn't having it, so I told him he needed to pack up his things and leave. I never asked to be released because that would pretty much be redundant.

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