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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 11:13:47 AM   
mistoferin


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The woman is desperate.


It would appear that she is. It doesn't always take two trains to have a train wreck. I'd say her own personal train is seriously derailed. She needs to get her head together, get her life together....before she starts thinking about another relationship. There are a lot of things she needs to figure out....like why in hell she has tolerated the conditions she describes for any length of time. She needs to figure out what her relationship goals are and where her boundaries lie...and how to get there and stand on firm ground. In my opinion, she should not even be considering Master #2 when she can't even figure out why she has been with Master #1.

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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 11:13:57 AM   
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very well stated sunshine!

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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 11:17:56 AM   
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It doesn't sound like that man is a master at all.  It's a shame that the 'new master' is what is motivating you to make the necessary change. I say, go be single and learn to be strong and love yourself. Then, CHOOSE your master, and let him choose you.


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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 11:22:25 AM   
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If you are already supporting yourself and him and maintaining the household then move out. You can obviously take care of yourself financially.

Get your own place, support yourself, then consider seeking out an new Master. Running from one to another is not a good idea.

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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 6:42:13 PM   
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Leave.  But first make sure nothing he has access to, or that you leave behind, is legally in your name.

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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 6:47:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pebbleskajira

Okay...a BIG problem.
i am owned and collared, and live with my Owner. Well, He ignores me completely, we fight all the time, apparently has no concept of how to handle money, so that we are always flat broke and have like next to nothing..no heat for the winter, no phone, etc. The only thing he has managed to keep on is the electricity. And i understand that it is sometimes difficult to run a household, but i make enough to do it. I've been here for a year--sometimes working two jobs, and for several months he got fired and made no attempt to get another job, even though we had no money, and i was working myself to death. Finally, i managed to get him a job --a paper route--(in my name, not his) and now he wants to quit it (after only 6 months), with no notice, which leaves me in breach of contract. And i'm having alot of problems with his ex-wife--who lives next door to us, since they are like the best of buddies--since she came over to our house and assaulted me. He wasnt there, i called the police, and he was mad at ME, who was injured, for having her arrested. It has caused lots of arguments. Anyways, she wants to kill me, i'm not safe, so we made the decision that i am moving back home (another state) and he is joining me in a couple of months. Of course, when we fight, he is all like "go there and stay alone" and i am tired of being ignored ALL THE TIME, and then there is like no intimacy between us, so extreme that i have to ask for kisses, and even then its all quick, chaste, mwah. And he has no grooming habits. Seriously. He has long hair and its allways matted to the point where it puts itself into missmatched dreds, and he hardly ever changes clothes or showers. I know it seems like i am ranting, but this is really the state of affairs here.
Now, inadvertantly, i got another offer to serve another Master, who has a squared away life (not a paperboy) and is offering me a job, a place to live, training (which my Master has never done--weird). It seems like the better option, honestly, but i feel really bad about going kinda sorta behind Master's back about it--even though He looks for other slaves.

So...any suggestions? Help!


What did Jerry Springer say?

My god woman.. LEAVE!

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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 6:59:26 PM   
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Ditto everyone above.  You need to leave this sorry excuse of a man.  Forget any new relationship - go home, regroup, get love and support from friends and cut of all contact with this looser completely. Take time to heal. i don't know you but i have a suspicion you might be whats called a "co dependent"  - in a nutshell thats someone who takes care of others at their own expense allowing the one taken care of to wallow in their own disfunction. There are support groups for people who are co dependent. Google it and explore the possibility... good luck, be safe. You're too young to waste years of your life living like that.

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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 7:21:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pebbleskajira

Okay...a BIG problem.
i am owned and collared, and live with my Owner. Well, He ignores me completely, we fight all the time, apparently has no concept of how to handle money, so that we are always flat broke and have like next to nothing..no heat for the winter, no phone, etc. The only thing he has managed to keep on is the electricity. And i understand that it is sometimes difficult to run a household, but i make enough to do it. I've been here for a year--sometimes working two jobs, and for several months he got fired and made no attempt to get another job, even though we had no money, and i was working myself to death. Finally, i managed to get him a job --a paper route--(in my name, not his) and now he wants to quit it (after only 6 months), with no notice, which leaves me in breach of contract. And i'm having alot of problems with his ex-wife--who lives next door to us, since they are like the best of buddies--since she came over to our house and assaulted me. He wasnt there, i called the police, and he was mad at ME, who was injured, for having her arrested. It has caused lots of arguments. Anyways, she wants to kill me, i'm not safe, so we made the decision that i am moving back home (another state) and he is joining me in a couple of months. Of course, when we fight, he is all like "go there and stay alone" and i am tired of being ignored ALL THE TIME, and then there is like no intimacy between us, so extreme that i have to ask for kisses, and even then its all quick, chaste, mwah. And he has no grooming habits. Seriously. He has long hair and its allways matted to the point where it puts itself into missmatched dreds, and he hardly ever changes clothes or showers. I know it seems like i am ranting, but this is really the state of affairs here.
Now, inadvertantly, i got another offer to serve another Master, who has a squared away life (not a paperboy) and is offering me a job, a place to live, training (which my Master has never done--weird). It seems like the better option, honestly, but i feel really bad about going kinda sorta behind Master's back about it--even though He looks for other slaves.

So...any suggestions? Help!


Sounds like you know what you need to do.  Hopefully, you've found enough encouragement here to do it.  I will second everyone who has said that going to another Master at this point in time is probably not the wisest choice.  Are you afraid to be alone?  You've managed to run the household and take care of a grown child.  That should leave no doubt that you can certainly take care of yourself.  It would be better to be alone for a while then end up in another situation like the one you find yourself in currently.

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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 7:36:20 PM   
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Just tell "Master Paper Route" you're leaving or just leave!
How old is this guy that he's delivering papers???
He sounds like a bum. A "Loosah without a Pazooza."
No heat in the winter?
Ex-wife assaulted you? Why? Because she wants him *BACK*???
Paul Simon wrote a song about this.
"Get on the bus, Gus."
" Find a new plan, Stan."
"Get a new key, Lee"

SHEESH!!!

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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 7:36:54 PM   
FelinePersuasion


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You know when you leave he's not going to come to you like he says.


He's negligent as a man and as a Master leave him or continue to put up with it. That's your choices. He's not going to change.

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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 7:39:48 PM   
eroticangel


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JessieMe....i think you said it all...or at least my very thoughts.!!!

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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 7:45:14 PM   
velvetears


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quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Just tell "Master Paper Route" you're leaving or just leave!
How old is this guy that he's delivering papers???
He sounds like a bum. A "Loosah without a Pazooza."
No heat in the winter?
Ex-wife assaulted you? Why? Because she wants him *BACK*???
Paul Simon wrote a song about this.
"Get on the bus, Gus."
" Find a new plan, Stan."
"Get a new key, Lee"

SHEESH!!!


Popeye1250  LMAO... you are too funny.  Sometimes a heavy situation like this, and i feel for this girl i really do, needs a little levity and a male perspective.  While us females give sound advice with sympathy you hit the nail on the head! 

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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 8:28:22 PM   
popeye1250


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Velvet tears, no problem, you're very welcome!

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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 8:45:54 PM   
JessieMe


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quote:

ORIGINAL: eroticangel

JessieMe....i think you said it all...or at least my very thoughts.!!!


<chuckling> yeah.. sometimes I even surprise myself...



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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 8:49:30 PM   
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Can we say run, don't walk? It sounds like to me there are some major red flags going on here. A Dominant/Master should be someone that when you walk away you are a better person.  That Dominant/Master should be giving you training, support and a nurturing environment that promotes learning and growth. If it's not, I would sure be looking somewhere else. It sounds like to me that he only wants you there for financial support. And that is fine, if that is what you guys agreed to. However, doesn't sound like that was what was negotiated and that he is still attracted and loves his ex-wife (would make me wonder what really happened the reason they are seperated). He should have  been taking your side. And if he is your Master, he has a responsibility to your well being. That means the basic necessities. If your not well, how can you take care of him? Sounds like he is just a lazy terd that wants to be catered to, and supported because he can't get his butt up to even take care of himself. And if he can't take care of himself, how is he going to take care of you? Let him go. If you do nothing else with this other Top, I would at least get back to you, get things smoothed out for you. You can't take care of anyone else and be there for them if you don't have yourself together. As for talking to another Top, well protocol around my home is that my sub and slave doesn't converse with another Top unless they have permission. So going behind his back is wrong in that situation in my eyes. But in the same sense, it sounds like your at the last knotch in your rope and trying desperately to find some peace and safety. I hope it works out for you. I would leave and never look back. Just my opinion.

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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 9:12:34 PM   
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Susan you're missing the point. The dominant she's with could be pig sucking skum of the earth grand high lord pouba dick shit, And to have another guy come in and try to take the girl away while she's still collared is un honorable.

It's dishonorable to try to break up someone elses relationship even if the other guy is a dipshit. And if he'd try to break up one relationship you can gaurentee he won't be faithfull to the slave girl he stole.

We saw it all the time in school girl leaves guy she's with for a better looking guy and he encourages that, and once he saw a girl he liked better than the one he stole, stolen girl is history. Men like that have no honor and do not know the meaning of honor.
quote:

ORIGINAL: SusanofO

My take on this: Maybe that's true. But- this isn't a relationship of any real quality - it takes two people to create one, and this guy really seems like he doesn't even really know he's in one, frankly. He seems like a blatantly uncaring Loser (to me), and as such has pretty much tossed his "rights" out the window, along with his said 'Masterliness'.

If Dominant two knows the score, and why she is leaving, isn't that important to consider as well? The woman is desperate. I think she might want to not make any promises to Dominant number two. If said Dominant is worth his salt, he may just be helping her re-adjust to life after this bozo has helped ruin it for her - maybe it will work out, maybe not. Anything  sounds better (to me) than where she's at now. But, you're right about not blindly leaping - and Dominant number two - well, she might want to find out just what His expectations are going to be of her (and try to make sure she knows if she can live with them).

That being said - I think the advice about just being alone and taking time to 'regroup' is very valid also.

- Susan

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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 9:20:38 PM   
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start by being responsible for yourself... and make your own decision.  You don't need anyone to tell you what you should do... especially based on what you have shared

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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 9:22:43 PM   
Kirei


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If you want help with what to do to get out, maybe you should try contacting www.immediatefamily.org they help lifestyle people and maybe they can give you the advice you need to help you move on.....but most importantly it has to come from within you to want something better than what you have.

Koneko

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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 9:26:23 PM   
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Kirei....Immediate Family is no longer in operation.

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RE: a little problem... - 8/1/2006 11:34:25 PM   
MasterKalif


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wow....well like everyone else before me, leave this "looser", get your life in order with some time alone, and then make your move, or change your life, etc.

However, having read your "blog" I am not surprised why you are with this sorry excuse of a Dom in the first place...you seek to be ignored, say you are worthless, etc, then it could by why you chose this looser.

While I make no moral judgement on what you state on a blog, and even enjoyed reading that, it could be why you dont leave him. However, I was shocked to read that this guy doesnt shower?! and that he can't hold a job...I know people who can't work because they are international students and they need special permits for that....and they would love to work. This guy is a citizen and has no restrictions and he refuses to work....no, no, no....leave this looser. If he cant respect himself, if he cant have his own "house in order" how can he expect to take care of you and other slaves you say he is looking for?

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