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SexyRed -> RE: What happens to old slaves and Masters? (8/5/2006 10:56:44 AM)

This thread is both beautiful and tragically sad. Beautiful for those who are in fulfilling relationships where you know you are connected to the end.

Tragically sad for those alone who are of a certain age that makes one start to question these very things. The biggest fear is dying alone, and never meeting your special person.

This thread brings up these thoughts. The better question might be what happens to people if they never find what they desire?



Homestead -> RE: What happens to old slaves and Masters? (8/5/2006 11:10:59 AM)

I have other things I find fullfilling. I have no expectations..If someone hppens along, I'll just be pleasantly surprised.

I look at life from a perspective of abundance, rather than deprivation.[:D]



LotusSong -> RE: What happens to old slaves and Masters? (8/5/2006 12:44:52 PM)

Soylent Green...

"It's Doms and Subs!  ...."

http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue55/classic.html



LotusSong -> RE: What happens to old slaves and Masters? (8/5/2006 12:48:23 PM)

If it is truly a good relationship.. things just go along naturally.. they morph.

Slave and I have agreed..that our D/s relationship will end when one of us breaks a hip.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_467196/mpage_1/key_sickness%2Chealth/tm.htm



angelica4 -> RE: What happens to old slaves and Masters? (8/5/2006 12:58:07 PM)

it would sure be great to have a choice to be there to say goodbye and kiss the fevered brow of the dying one, but more often  then not,the choice is not given us.  i was waiting for my beloved Master in a hotel room when i got the word that He was simply....gone.   no amount of screaming, or crying or moaning would ever bring him back.  i preserve the memory,of those happy times we had together, but it is never enough.  It really sunk in well, when i looked down at him in the coffin.  (I thought to myself, "Master, You are One Dead Duck!")   i know He lives on in spirit, and I was comforted by Him in that way, but an ethereal visit .........  we had a lot yet to do.  I guess I am grateful that he came into my life gently, and left gently.  How horrible would it have been to have him die in front of me of a heart attack, without a warning.  We had been planning a trip to Toronto to a fetish event, and how horrible if i had been there with him when it happened.    As it was, in my despair I entered too quickly, probably into the next relationship, and hung on for dear life.  That ride has now ended, and I am grateful.  It seemed loving and good, ecstatic much of the time, but the low points were the worst.  I must surely be a stronger person for having gone through all of it.  all i was trying to say was, sometimes there is no chance to say goodbye.




JassWolf -> RE: What happens to old slaves and Masters? (8/5/2006 1:34:59 PM)

Lots of bittersweet in this thread, including My sub Pita's response. Thank you so much for asking, Susan. The issue has occupied a good part of my mind since 2001 as a matter of fact.

In that year, for quirky reasons that no longer effect me, I nearly died ... three times. The third, and last, time I woke up from anesthesia with coverage of the 9/11 tragedy on the TV in my semi-private room. It was a life-changing year for us all, for me in spades.

I've always been pretty active. Just this year a physician told me my heart was that of a semi-active man in his thirties, some thirty years younger than I am. So far, age has certainly impacted my life, but it hasn't ruined it -- I know longer feel I "need" to come three times a day, for example. But I know of no reason to think that I'm near death, though 2001 "encouraged" me to prepare -- I am 23 years older than my submissive and need to have plans in place.

What I've done:

I have a will,
a durable power of atty.
a durable health care proxy
a living will
income that is inflation-compensated
long term care insurance
a joint bank account.
I feel responsibility toward my very loyal children
and I have responsibilities for my sub, especially, since my children are grown and she is not.

I am deeply moved by her feelings of loyalty to me.
Even more, I am determined that she will not be legally obligated to deal with my sorry ass.
I pray for several things -- to die quickly and quietly, perhaps in my sleep; failing that, to die quickly and quietly; failing that, that I will keep the courage to take charge of my death myself.

What frightens me is not my death. I am deeply offended by the notion that I will become a burden to those I love -- it is my job to take care of them, after all, and I don't have it in my heart to say "except in this one circumstance." And I am terribly frightened by this scenario --

I fantasize being in my mid-eighties or later, that much weaker and more fragile. I fantasize my sub being twenty years older than she is now and trying to take care of me. I fantasize that she gets sick herself, partly from taking care of me ... and I'm no longer able to take care of her, nor am I able to secure for her a dominant who will prize her.

Like you, Susan, I'm sorry if I've provided a downer ... but it sure looks to me like you've hit a chord and many of us are concerned with these issues.

Best wishes to us all!
JW






LaTigresse -> RE: What happens to old slaves and Masters? (8/5/2006 4:28:02 PM)

I have been checking back with this thread off and on all day. I actually have found it to be a beautiful thread and not at all a downer. The dedication and love on both sides of those in Ds relationships is quite beautiful. I personally cannot imagine discarding someone that has been lovingly devoted to me. I mean, good grief, I cannot fathom getting rid of one of my horses as he ages and is no longer able to serve me as he could several years ago. I only ask him to do what he is capable of and enjoy being with him. That is more than enough. I just try to make sure he is happy and well cared for.



twicehappy -> RE: What happens to old slaves and Masters? (8/6/2006 5:17:02 AM)

You have said it perfectly.

What does any couple do as they age after all?

So the sub/slave half sits on a cushion because their knees are stiff, the dom half can only throw a flogger after he has BenGay put on his shoulder, breast bondage takes a little more time because first you have to pick your tits up off  your knees. So what, it is really about the love not the kink. I have found i value something old and time tested, smooth with use or showing the patina of age to anything bright and shiny any way. 

Ok with the exception of chrome, lol.



Padriag -> RE: What happens to old slaves and Masters? (8/6/2006 6:02:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SusanofO

Question: If you really cared about your Master (Mistress) or slave or submissive, you would take care of them if they were sick, right? Or at least help? You wouldn't toss them out the door because they were "too old"? Well, maybe some would.

Of course I'd take care of them when they were sick, as well as when they were old.  By the time they are old, I will be as well, and I imagine we'll all have slowed down a lil bit.  But by that time they'll know me so well, and I them, it'll be a comfort to still have them around.  After all, who else am I going to remember all the crazy things we did with? Or occasionally remind me of the stuff I forgot! LOL

quote:

Question: So - What's your plan, as far as D/s or M/s in your life goes, goes when you really start to age? Gonna have someone there who gives a darn about your welfare, even if you're a wrinkled up thing that can hardly walk anymore, or what? Or not? Gonna toss someone out the door on their butt because they've suddenly become "too old" and-or too much work to care for?

Well I certainly hope to have someone there.  As for being too much work to take care of, I suppose some would say that about me now!  LOL  We're all going to age, the trick is to do it with as much grace as you can.  The nice thing about growing old with someone are all the things you share along the way.  Some bonds only form with time.

quote:

Perhaps the quality of my questions on this site is going downhill, but I would appreciate any comments.

On the contrary, I think you've been asking some very interesting questions lately.  Just wish I had the time to answer more of them.



SusanofO -> RE: What happens to old slaves and Masters? (8/6/2006 6:09:20 AM)

Padriag: Thanks for your reply!

- Susan[:)] 



WhipTheHip -> RE: What happens to old slaves and Masters? (8/6/2006 8:47:59 AM)

"What happens to old slaves and Masters?"

I think they eventually die of old age.



WhipTheHip -> RE: What happens to old slaves and Masters? (8/6/2006 9:11:15 AM)

Life is short.  We can go through life primarily seeking to satisfy our
carnal desires, and our emotional needs.  Or we can dedicate a large
part of our life to lessening human and animal pain, anguish, misery,
and torment.   This second objective is my primary goal in life.  I
would like to create a community where people care about each 
other, and help each other, instead of attacking each other, and  
trying to elevate one's self by standing on other people's heads. 
 
This world is filled with with unloved, neglected children, with adults
who have no caring family or relatives.
 
United we stand.  Divided we fall.  Humans who work together can
accomplish much more than indivudals each doing their own thing.
The name for this principle is synergy. 
 
It would be nice if people put their heads together to accomplsh
more for themselves and others.  I have a lot of skills, a lot of
knowlege, and some material assets.  Whatever I have, I wish
to share with others.  The pleasures we get in life are transitory.
The good we do for others lives on. 
 
I am an atheist.  But I believe it is up to each of us to bring
kindess, compassion, love, understanding and tolerance into
the world.  This is what I live for.  It is my religion.  I may fail,
but I will have tried my very best.  I am trying to accomplish
this with all my heart and soul.  It would be easier to accomplish
this with a partner that had similar ideals, but no matter.
 
I wish more people would dedicate more of their lives to
helping people.
 
Best regards,
Micahel
 
 
 
 



DivaZya -> RE: What happens to old slaves and Masters? (8/6/2006 9:44:46 AM)

Since many submissives and slaves are such great 'pets',  I always planned on making certain there will be an overlap in My pets and other Owners to care for each other.

Possibly the best way is to Mentor a younger Dominant, encourage younger pets & have frequent gatherings to play and expand your own personal D/s Dimension.
Maybe the desire to 'be' submissive or dominant will change after the loss of one, maybe it will seen a boon or a simple release of responsibility.

Yet a point I think many here have already made is : when you've been happily together with someone for years, in the end it doesn't matter that you were kinky - it matters that you were together, happily.
As far as I can tell, this can totally work for cats & dogs.. and I hope - ferrets!

Always the best Diva~Zya




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