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ORIGINAL: sharainks

As long as the government continues to promote the food pyramid people will gain weight.  They will always do that because the USDA uses it to promote their products.  Mostly meat, dairy and eggs. Outside of grains anything that looks like a vegetable generally does not get price supports. They scratch the farmer's back and the farmer scratches theirs by voting them back in for another round.

The school lunch system bases their meals on the food pyramid and wonders why so many children are obese.  Its not the pop machines outside.  Its the lunches.  My unmentionable suddenly began gaining weight in about 3rd grade  When school was out in the first two weeks she'd lose 10 pounds.  She would get almost to where she started school the previous year, gain 10 pounds right off and steadily the rest of the year. 

Finally we quit with the school lunches.  She lost weight and hasn't gained since.  The government will not do what they need to do to correct this.  It would upset the governmental agencies that profit by the sales of their unhealthy products.  Taxing McDonalds for their fatty food would mean more salads and less meat and cheese. 

I lost 35 pounds last year in 8 weeks by not eating anything that comes from an animal and limiting starches to one a day.

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ORIGINAL: Moloch

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

Intriguing idea twice, but I agree with stef (relax stef, it probably won't happen again), smoking and obesity may well be equally dangerous, but smoking has the proven ability to harm those who do not smoke, which overeating doesn't really.
I am a smoker, and I don't really think I have a right to smoke where it will affect others...I wish I did, but I don't.

Yeah why is it that every thime I get side swiped on a highway it is some jack ass who can barley fit in a car and was stuffing fries in his mouth while holding the burger with the other and drifting from lane to lane. I dont bother to move out of the way if people are stupid enough to do that.

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ORIGINAL: ScooterTrash

[Interesting! Actually you accidentally discovered the problem with regard to the short people. It isn't what the gov't does or doesn't do that affects child obesity, actually the less government intervention in anything the less it will be screwed up. If you see a fat child...two things will likely be visible, a fat parent and a child who is not guided properly. If the parent isn't fat (it happens), the problem is still the parent. Parents with fat children should in all actuality be considered child abusers. If a parent is relying on the govenment to do their job for them, I am afraid you are in for a long wait...well maybe not that long with people pushing for regulating everything.
As for the pyramid thing, that's an excuse, nothing more. I don't watch what I eat, I eat red meat, fruit sometimes, a candy bar if I want it, pie or cake when the mood strikes me, whole milk, beer, butter, sugar, red wine, eggs, bacon, hotdogs, whatever....get the idea. You can actually eat whatever you want and it doesn't have to have a weight watchers label on it to be healthy....but you DO have to get up off your ass on occasion to do something other than just go the the kitchen to get another snack.
 
For those who are so damned offended at smokers in restaurants...what about us folks who are trying to enjoy our meal when the fat family comes in with their porky kids running amuck and they attack the buffet. I have actually considered walking up to one of these double spare tire types at a buffet before and telling them...they really don't need that. But of course, that would be offensive...like waddling isn't?

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ORIGINAL: twicehappy

What will they do when the good old government legislates away their right to go to Baskin Robbins or unwrap a Twinkie in public?

They can do that right after they prove the detrimental health effects from second-hand calories

~stef

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ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei


If you were starving and a fat person consumed the entire buffet while you were forced to starve, you'd have a case.  Your being bothered by a fat family whose buffet habits you disapprove of  is not a health risk to you.

Some of the smokers in these threads have commented how the non-smokers just don't like smoke and are making a big deal...(well, it wouldn't bother us  much if your smoke wasn't a health risk to us), but seem to have no problem in sharing over and over again their dislike and belittling of those who are overweight.

I have not seen the non-smokers say they dislike smokers as people, or go to town on any less than attractive physical traits shared by a whole lot of smokers (poor skin, excess wrinkles in the aged, yellow teeth, bad breath, etc).   If a person wants to be large, or have yellow teeth, or bad breath or waddle...  who cares.... it doesn't harm anyone else, like second hand smoke does.