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Lieberman - 8/9/2006 12:37:58 AM

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"Three-term Sen. Joe Lieberman fell to anti-war challenger Ned Lamont in Connecticut’s Democratic primary Tuesday, a race seen as a harbinger of sentiment over a conflict that has claimed the lives of more than 2,500 U.S. troops.

Unbowed, Lieberman immediately announced he would enter the fall campaign as an independent. Only six years ago, Lieberman was the Democrats’ choice for vice president."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14228351

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RE: Lieberman - 8/9/2006 12:47:21 AM

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I always felt that Leiberman was a decent man. It is a shame what his own party has done to him. Even worse were all the anti-semetic things said about him on many left wing blogs and websites.
He is one Democrat who understands that we must defeat the Muslim Fundamentalist threat by being strong on defense. Oops, I guess he is no longer a Democrat. At least not in Connecticut.

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RE: Lieberman - 8/9/2006 5:26:17 AM

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He could always go libertarian. ~ chuckle ~

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RE: Lieberman - 8/9/2006 6:00:03 AM

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This is a representative government [or it's supposed to be]. The registered Democratic voters of CT. thought that Lamont better represented them, if they agreed with
Estring they could always vote Republican. Why no concern over the loss in his primary or Rep. Joe Schwarz of Michigan a moderate pro-choice Republican to another ultra-conservative? Seems in the conservative world the more extreme the better.

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RE: Lieberman - 8/9/2006 6:35:41 AM

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I was disappointed by the results for several reasons...

First, the vote seems to have been less of a vote for Ned Lamont than against Joe Lieberman.

Second, the unhappiness with Lieberman is often stated as his being "too close to George W. Bush", or the corollary, that he is not aligned closely enough with the party line.

Now, I am not a supporter of George W. Bush, and never have been - don't even get me started there. But, to me, one of the biggest things *wrong* with American politics is the tendancy for both Democratic *and* Republican politicians to put party interests above national interests. Guess what - when they do that, the nation loses!

It's been my feeling that Lieberman is a man of conscience, who thinks about the issues and votes as he believes is best for the country, regardless of what the "party line" is. That is a behavior that should be lauded, not punished.

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RE: Lieberman - 8/9/2006 6:45:17 AM

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There should be statesmen, but we have politicians. The country loses you're right Daddy4Udderslut. I agree that Lieberman is a man of conscious, he voted his conscience & lost, he can sleep at night. When Jim Jeffords said he could no longer be a Republican & became an independent he also followed his conscience. The conservatives called him "traitor", Ann Coulter accused him of being mentally ill in print. Sadly, there seems to be a wide disparity of opinions what is "Best For The Country", seems to be taking a back seat to "What's best for me".

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RE: Lieberman - 8/9/2006 6:53:45 AM

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Glad to see him lose.

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RE: Lieberman - 8/9/2006 7:03:08 AM

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Leave it to you to use this to slam the other side.

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RE: Lieberman - 8/9/2006 7:32:18 AM

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The Democratic Party will now revert to their 1968 Eugene McCarthy days, that brought us Richard Nixon. Senator Hilary Clinton should be careful. Lieberman and she have the same voting record concerning Iraq.

I know it's difficult for some, but look at the situation pragmatically.

Consider this "day after" statement and think about how this campaign issue play in the "red" states.

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In Cleveland, Republican Party chairman Ken Mehlman seized on the results in the Connecticut primary to assail the Democrats on national security and called Lieberman's defeat a "shame." "Joe Lieberman believed in a strong national defense, and for that, he was purged from his party. It is a sobering moment," Ken Mehlman said. The Republican National Committee chairman said Lieberman's loss also is a "sign of what the Democratic Party has become in the 21st century. It reflects an unfortunate embrace of isolationism, defeatism and a blame America first attitude by national Democratic leaders at a time when retreating from the world is particularly dangerous." Link: http://apnews.myway.com//article/20060809/D8JCURI00.html

As I said in another thread...

... in 2008 the choice from the Democratic side will lose. Every issue on the left is polarizing and exclusionary. They can tell why programs failed, why war was wrong, why more taxes are needed, why people shouldn’t own guns. But their voting records don’t live up to their convictions. Or they do not present a logical and macro solution. They can tell how it’s wrong. They can tell you why yesterday’s decision was wrong but aren’t so confident about the one they’d make tomorrow. As a result every fringe or minority group that they placate moves votes to their opposition. These fringe rallies are fun to attend and make for great TV but only serve to polarize and mobilize those against the fringe. They forget that fringe and minority groups are called that because they make up a minority or fringe factor. Need an example of how this works? California has a Republican governor who took steroids, fondles women, smokes cigars, and can’t pronounce the name of the state he governs; those are just his positive resume items. But the liberal Democratic opposition ran a candidate so far left to placate the fringe and minority groups that the high powered “right winger” Stephen Spielberg just came out backing Arnold. The same will happen in 2008 in the presidential election.

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RE: Lieberman - 8/9/2006 9:09:38 AM

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I was very surprised by the left-wing bloggers who used Anti-Semite tactics to smear Lieberman!
And those people try to tell us that they're "liberal???"
They had that on the news last night and gave a few examples and I wouldn't want to repeat what they said on this board.
I sense even a bigger Trainwreck comming for the Democratic Party in 2008 if they run Hillary Clinton.
A lot of women don't like her and she refused to help Lieberman in his campaign.
In my humble opinion her, and also John McCain are "un-electable".

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RE: Lieberman - 8/9/2006 9:35:55 AM

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I haven't been following politics for all that long, but last semester I took a PoliSci course where the prof presented some informal research data indicating that a not insignificant percentage of voters in Texas, actually voted against John Kerry because he was a draft dodger that's married to Hillary Clinton.

Funny stuff really. Given our voter pool, I think a caesar salad is actually electable, providing it's waving the flag, and hates Hillary (or waiving the Green Peace flag and hating on "Rummy", just to be fair).

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RE: Lieberman - 8/9/2006 10:20:54 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: caitlyn

I haven't been following politics for all that long, but last semester I took a PoliSci course where the prof presented some informal research data indicating that a not insignificant percentage of voters in Texas, actually voted against John Kerry because he was a draft dodger that's married to Hillary Clinton.

Funny stuff really. Given our voter pool, I think a caesar salad is actually electable, providing it's waving the flag, and hates Hillary (or waiving the Green Peace flag and hating on "Rummy", just to be fair).

That is why movements like "Rock The Vote" are ridiculious. The last thing we need are a bunch of young people (in this case) who have no idea what they are doing, voting. As well as anyone who can't figure out how to fill out a ballot. If you can't do that, you shouldn't vote.

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RE: Lieberman - 8/9/2006 10:27:34 AM

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This is a representative government [or it's supposed to be]. The registered Democratic voters of CT. thought that Lamont better represented them, if they agreed with
Estring they could always vote Republican. Why no concern over the loss in his primary or Rep. Joe Schwarz of Michigan a moderate pro-choice Republican to another ultra-conservative? Seems in the conservative world the more extreme the better.

The point is, the Democrats who preach tolerance and acceptance viciously turned on one of their own and villified him on the internet with all kinds of anti-semetic remarks. Why? Because he supports the war in Iraq. But that is what the Left does. They can't just disagree with you, they need to vilify you. It wasn't deserved.

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RE: Lieberman - 8/9/2006 10:30:56 AM

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I see, could your forward that sentiment ot Ann Coulter, Bill O' Reilly, Sean Hannity, & Rush Limbaugh Estring?

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RE: Lieberman - 8/9/2006 10:32:43 AM

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I see, could your forward that sentiment ot Ann Coulter, Bill O' Reilly, Sean Hannity, & Rush Limbaugh Estring?

I don't need to, they would agree with me.

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RE: Lieberman - 8/9/2006 11:04:47 AM

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I think it was the kiss that Geroge laid on him... (aka-the kiss of death)

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RE: Lieberman - 8/9/2006 12:08:28 PM

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I wonder if Cynthia McKinney will blame white people for her loss?
She is already blaming electronic voting machines. Lol. How did she ever get elected?

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RE: Lieberman - 8/9/2006 12:47:48 PM

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I wonder if Cynthia McKinney will blame white people for her loss?
She is already blaming electronic voting machines. Lol. How did she ever get elected?

Gad.. what a work she is.. she's doing her party a favor by leaving the position!

She does have many options however- she can blame the whites, the republicans, or the fact she is female... but NOT the fact she acts like a loose wire!

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RE: Lieberman - 8/9/2006 12:56:48 PM

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"Three-term Sen. Joe Lieberman fell to anti-war challenger Ned Lamont in Connecticut’s Democratic primary Tuesday, a race seen as a harbinger of sentiment over a conflict that has claimed the lives of more than 2,500 U.S. troops.

Unbowed, Lieberman immediately announced he would enter the fall campaign as an independent. Only six years ago, Lieberman was the Democrats’ choice for vice president."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14228351

All I have to say, on behalf of people that actually live in Connecticut is...

Liebermans goin' dowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn

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RE: Lieberman - 8/9/2006 1:02:35 PM

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A lecture in civility from Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O' Reilly & Estring. Now I've seen everything

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